After watching last night's complete waste of time, my view of this team could be summed up to one trade. The Scott Hartnell for RJ Umberger trade. Last night should have been a contest in which, you are already down 4 to zip early in the 3rd on your own home ice, a Wayne Simmonds, a Radko Gudas, a Ryan White or a Luke Schenn needs to stir the pot. Make no mistake that a Scott Hartnell in that situation will accidently on purpose upset an opposing player and get into a fight to round up the troops. Guys like Chris Vandevelde and RJ Umberger to me are just so vanilla, so plain, they just create an uninteresting brand of hockey. By trading a Scott Hartnell, you take the emotion out of the team. By bringing in RJ Umberger you get exactly what we're seeing today. I actually fooled myself into believing that one or two guys were going to mix it up last night.

There is no question in my mind that in time we will get better with the A+ drafting we've received in recent years but it almost seems hypocritical for Ron Hextall and Craig Berube to expect the Flyers to play with discipline. Both players were anything but...
- SuperSchennBros

How much of the lack of, let's say emotion is a message being sent to not take penalties. Or not risk taking them.

They didnt go to arbitration
- YuenglingJagr

My apologies but things were trending in that direction.

How much of the lack of, let's say emotion is a message being sent to not take penalties. Or not risk taking them.
- flyer_nutter

I think this team needs to play with an edge. The moment a team is asked to not make a mistake, it's in the back of their minds, and so mistakes are made anyway.

you forgot to add a slur or other insult try again
- -davies-

damn i'm bad at this

Some of us are older. We still believe in Santa, milk delivery and checking lines.
- mayorofangrytown

and that the flyers will win a cup in our life time

Holmgren's entire resume with the Flyers was based on beating the Rags in a shootout.

The guy left his post as GM with this franchise in ruins.
- PLindbergh31

you forgot the egg on his face too

Good news: Going to the game on 11/23 where Brind'amour is being honored!

Bad news: having to actually watch these ass clowns attempt to play hockey.
- BiggE

at least you get to see brindy again
I still love the draft in philly when the fans where cheering so loud for him and he looked like he was about to cry

To trade Giroux and Voracek. I'm not going to swing one way or another but if they do ship them out.

Laughing stock of the league. Kiss of death to sign a long term deal with this club.
- flyer_nutter

those 2 won't go anywhere unless something of immediate excitement comes back because the jerseys wouldn't sell