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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:53 AM ET
My balance is far too good for that.

My weakness lies in always attempting to correct mythical perceptions based on concrete narratives that tend to get harder the more often they're read on forums such as this one

- Ihateallofu


Ah yes, the meme known as the "standings,"
And the corruption said "standings" have on peoples perception of the game.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 10 @ 12:57 AM ET
Ah yes, the meme known as the "standings,"
And the corruption said "standings" have on peoples perception of the game.

- seedy

Huh?

I think you vastly misunderstood my entire point. I'm not even sure what you thought you read when u wrote this retort.

The standings actually explicitly back up my claim that the oilers deserve no player(generational or otherwise) any less than any other team.

But The reasons behind why someone generally thinks the oilers should be better is the part that I try and correct. Because as I said, far more often than not it's nowhere near the real reasons.
People love simple cause and effect without any critical thought. This leads to false conclusions
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Nov 10 @ 1:10 AM ET
Huh?

I think you vastly misunderstood my entire point. I'm not even sure what you thought you read when u wrote this retort.

The standings actually explicitly back up my claim that the oilers deserve no player(generational or otherwise) any less than any other team.

But The reasons behind why someone generally thinks the oilers should be better is the part that I try and correct. Because as I said, far more often than not it's nowhere near the real reasons.
People love simple cause and effect without any critical thought. This leads to false conclusions

- Ihateallofu


I don't care WHY they have sucked for so long. I'm saying they shouldnt.
you still haven't even told us what those reasons are that people believe. and you haven't elaborated on what the conspiracy theory is there, Fox Mulder…..im sure "the truth is out there."
Seriously. Just go back to your own board. No one cares.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 10 @ 1:21 AM ET
I don't care WHY they have sucked for so long. I'm saying they shouldnt.
you still haven't even told us what those reasons are that people believe. and you haven't elaborated on what the conspiracy theory is there, Fox Mulder…..im sure "the truth is out there."
Seriously. Just go back to your own board. No one cares.

- seedy

You clearly do as you responded twice. As did the original poster, who submitted his thoughts.

You understand that just saying "no one cares" doesn't actually mean anything if you respond in kind?

The cowboy keystrikers on hb never cease to make me chuckle.
"Grr, someone with another view that cheers for another team."

As far as the reasons- there are many. But i clearly stated that I can only guess his tired narrative (as I assume I can guess yours) and it's flat out wrong. If he or you want to enlighten me, id be happy to evicerate those points. (But of course you don't care.....)
And There's no conspiracy. Just a little logic and reason as opposed to the simple cause and effect most subscribe to. Maybe you see any critical thought as some some sort of conspiratorial talk? If so, You should try and break yourself from that way of thinking
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 2:03 AM ET


reinhartstinks

homiedclown
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 2:03 AM ET
fwiw, I did a 40th anniversary team in '10 and I had him on the second-pairing with bill hajt--pure offense and pure defense
- Michael Pachla

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 2:12 AM ET
speaking of busts, had this forum been around in the scotty bowman era, y'all have gone bust-crazy...man, his picks were terrible
- Michael Pachla

mike ramsey, barrasso, housley, andreychuk all elite


hamel, haworth, cunneyworth, ruutuu, krupp, puppa, reekie all solid players 4th rd or later


problem was he also missed with a lot of picks in first 2 rounds
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 2:17 AM ET
I don't care WHY they have sucked for so long. I'm saying they shouldnt.
you still haven't even told us what those reasons are that people believe. and you haven't elaborated on what the conspiracy theory is there, Fox Mulder…..im sure "the truth is out there."
Seriously. Just go back to your own board. No one cares.

- seedy

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 10 @ 6:23 AM ET

- homiedclown


I don't care, but I welcome all.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Nov 10 @ 7:03 AM ET
Huh?


People love simple cause and effect without any critical thought. This leads to false conclusions

- Ihateallofu


Facts: Four #1 overall picks in the last 6 years. 15 games played so far. 10 points.

Critical thought would lead someone here to post things such as: Wow, us Buffalo fans are jealous for all the great draft picks Edmonton has had, but if it means being worse than our team, who just stunk up the NHL on purpose for 2 years, then we're glad to be where we are now and going forward and we're more than happy to see Edmonton screw it up over and over and over.

You and Panacea have some very loooooong conversations in the future, I predict.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 10 @ 7:22 AM ET
reinhartstinks

homiedclown
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- homiedclown


I'm down 24-0, but looking over our rosters, we only have 1 person the same, and he only has 1 4-game player (I have 5 + a goalie)...hope it helps me out.

He also has 6 Canadiens, who only play 2 games
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 10 @ 7:52 AM ET
yup:

during the mid-seventies "slapshot" nhl, schoenfeld had to deal with the likes of the big, bad bruins featuring carol vadnais, wayne cashman and terry o'reilly as well as the broadstreet bullies featuring fly-boys dave schultz, bob kelly and don saleski...he had that monumental task while blocking shots, clearing the front of the net and defending his 1971 folksie music release, schony...

mike ramsey may be the most underrated sabre of all-time...an integral part of the u.s.a.'s 1980 "miracle" team, he relished his role as a top-notch defensive-defenseman in both the olympics and the pros...and boy could he block shots, completely giving up his body shift-in, shift-out...he was a four-time all-star and was selected for the '87 rendez-vous team vs. the soviet union

- Michael Pachla

so you had Shemlik in the 1B pairing then?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:57 AM ET
IMO Rex looks like a fool making IKE a Captain for Thursday nights game, he just has to have controversy.
- SABRES 89


he just did it for the dolphins game


it's all about rex
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 10 @ 7:59 AM ET
Just got done with the first season of gotham. It's pretty good i guess, nothing spetacular. Too many " in the nick of time" moments for me
- gerbe42


2nd is the best it will beat out breaking bad by the end (e5)
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 10 @ 8:05 AM ET
Left Wing Salary
Artemi Panarin
Anthony Duclair
Jamie Benn
Johnny Gaudreau

Center
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Max Domi
Tyler Seguin
Sean Monahan

Right Wing
Vladimir Tarasenko
Mark Stone
Mats Zuccarello
Patrick Kane

Defense
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Colton Parayko
John Carlson
Morgan Rielly
Keith Yandle
John Klingberg

Goaltenders
Pekka Rinne
Devan Dubnyk
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 10 @ 8:08 AM ET
remember me
- MattDuchene9


No, Should I?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 10 @ 8:10 AM ET
he just did it for the dolphins game


it's all about rex

- gerbe75pts

Nope, he did it for the Jets game. He just has to have a circus around him ( Rex)
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:27 AM ET
Nope, he did it for the Jets game. He just has to have a circus around him ( Rex)
- SABRES 89


What Rex was saying is he does it for every game - names players who played on the opposing team in the past or has some connection to that city as captains:

https://www.google.com/ur...rQ&bvm=bv.106923889,d.eWE

"That's right. Richie Incognito -- he of the infamous Dolphins bullying scandal -- was one of them. But he was joined by other ex-Fish like kicker Dan Carpenter (played for Miami from 2008-2012), wide receiver Marcus Thigpen (2012-2013) and Charles Clay (2011-2014).

The fifth captain was Seantrel Henderson, who if you remember, played his college ball at the University of Miami."
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 10 @ 8:27 AM ET
Left Wing Salary
Artemi Panarin
Taylor Hall
Jamie Benn
Johnny Gaudreau

Center Salary
Jack Eichel
Joe Pavelski
Tyler Seguin
Nathan MacKinnon

Right Wing Salary
Nikolaj Ehlers
Brendan Gallagher
Nail Yakupov
Patrick Kane

Defense Salary
Colton Parayko
Viktor Svedberg
Dustin Byfuglien
Brent Burns
John Klingberg
Rasmus Ristolainen

Goaltenders Salary
Jake Allen
Marc-Andre Fleury
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 10 @ 8:28 AM ET
Is tonight the night we figure out Tampa, or are we just happy this will be the last time we play them this ENTIRE regular season!?

I'm not a fan of this years schedule, it's hard to get into the rhythm of the season.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:30 AM ET
Panarin-Pavelski-Ehlers
Kreider-Toffolo-Neal
Benn-Seguin-Zuccarello
Gaudreau-MacKinnon-Hayes

Parayko-Byfuglien
Hedman-Josi
Klingberg-Giordano

Allen
Lundqvist

(saves a little space writing it that way)
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 10 @ 8:31 AM ET
What Rex was saying is he does it for every game - names players who played on the opposing team in the past or has some connection to that city as captains:

https://www.google.com/ur...rQ&bvm=bv.106923889,d.eWE

"That's right. Richie Incognito -- he of the infamous Dolphins bullying scandal -- was one of them. But he was joined by other ex-Fish like kicker Dan Carpenter (played for Miami from 2008-2012), wide receiver Marcus Thigpen (2012-2013) and Charles Clay (2011-2014).

The fifth captain was Seantrel Henderson, who if you remember, played his college ball at the University of Miami."

- stashu

i don't understand why football has 8 million captains on the team
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 10 @ 8:33 AM ET
Panarin-Pavelski-Ehlers
Kreider-Toffolo-Neal
Benn-Seguin-Zuccarello
Gaudreau-MacKinnon-Hayes

Parayko-Byfuglien
Hedman-Josi
Klingberg-Giordano

Allen
Lundqvist

(saves a little space writing it that way)

- stashu


Show off
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:38 AM ET
i don't understand why football has 8 million captains on the team
- IndianaSabresFan


Yeah, it's kind of stupid...I don't think it means anything other than for the coin toss anyways, so it's just a stunt thing anyways.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:53 AM ET
Panarin-Pavelski-Ehlers
Kreider-Toffolo-Neal
Benn-Seguin-Zuccarello
Gaudreau-MacKinnon-Hayes

Parayko-Byfuglien
Hedman-Josi
Klingberg-Giordano

Allen
Lundqvist

(saves a little space writing it that way)

- stashu


Panarin - Lindberg - Frolik
Ovechkin - Kadri - Zuccarello
Benn - Domi - Kane
Gaudreau - Seguin - Hayes

Parayko - Rielly
Yandle - Stone
Klein - Brodie

Lundqvist
Andersen
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