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TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 7:53 AM ET
Set your clock to October 2017 and then sit back and relax.
- FlyersFirst


This year is kinda going to plan for me.

They really need a high pick to get a game changing offensive talent. They really need to figure out whether Couturier and Laughton are the go forward centers behind G. They need to figure out the right mix of wingers. They need to maximize their draft picks for next year. And they need to see growth in the young prospects.

And most importantly, they need to resolve some of their bad contracts one way or another.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 7:56 AM ET
Anyone who questioned the hire of Hakstool looks like an utter fool.
- PLindbergh31


I don't understand. If you are calling him Hakstool I'm guessing you don't approve of his coaching. That means you are questioning his hire.

Does that make you an utter fool?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 6 @ 7:57 AM ET
I don't understand. If you are calling him Hakstool I'm guessing you don't approve of his coaching. That means you are questioning his hire.

Does that make you an utter fool?

- TheGreat28


Absolutely.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 6 @ 8:06 AM ET
Sucks watching but always thought next year was year they start moving forward. If they can get another first rounder at TDL and move some money I think next year we see the plan forming.
Also I don't think there can be a goalie controversy if your under 500.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 6 @ 8:07 AM ET
Anyone who questioned the hire of Hakstool looks like an utter fool.
- PLindbergh31


I think we all realized this team is what it is. Berube wasn't the answer, but a new coach wasn't going to turn a turd into gold.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:15 AM ET
I used to be on the edge of my seat and now I am on the edge of my sleep watching Flyers hockey...this team rivals expansion Flyers
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:15 AM ET
Great28 nailed it. This year is like I've said before basically a throw away year. They are trying to convince Vinny to come to the realization that he can't play anymore. Although I don't think it will work
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:16 AM ET
Wish I knew, but I suspect the answer will be patience and an eye on the longer-term future than just this season and next.
- bmeltzer


The future can't be advanced as long as there is the deadwood on the NHL roster that we currently have. The lack of scoring is simply incomprehensible.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:16 AM ET
I think we all realized this team is what it is. Berube wasn't the answer, but a new coach wasn't going to turn a turd into gold.
- funmaster18


Not expecting a miracle worker. I do expect competence. Dressing the corpse of Lecavalier and sitting Gagner when this team couldn't score in a whorehouse with a fist full of hundreds is idiocy.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:18 AM ET
Manning and vinny lol...2 things the coach can control he he can't get that right


Manning had to play last night with Medvedev in Philly. Vinny should not have been in the lineup over Gagner, but that was the first time all season he's played with only one injured forward, and Hakstol quickly realized he'd made a mistake and only gave him 4 minutes of ice time.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:20 AM ET
I think we all realized this team is what it is. Berube wasn't the answer, but a new coach wasn't going to turn a turd into gold.
- funmaster18


Babcock is proving that true in Toronto.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:22 AM ET
Manning had to play last night with Medvedev in Philly. Vinny should not have been in the lineup over Gagner, but that was the first time all season he's played with only one injured forward, and Hakstol quickly realized he'd made a mistake and only gave him 4 minutes of ice time.
- Feanor

personal issues, fainting on the bench, falling on the ice, too many men penalties.....this team is a mess
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 6 @ 8:22 AM ET
Can vinny ask to be released if only getting 4 minutes a night and being a healthy scratch. Maybe he finally tires of it.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 6 @ 8:24 AM ET
Manning needs to come out of the lineup
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:25 AM ET
Can vinny ask to be released if only getting 4 minutes a night and being a healthy scratch. Maybe he finally tires of it.
- J35Bacher


He'll be bought out in the summer. There's just no way the Flyers can have him on the team next season.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 6 @ 8:29 AM ET
Not expecting a miracle worker. I do expect competence. Dressing the corpse of Lecavalier and sitting Gagner when this team couldn't score in a whorehouse with a fist full of hundreds is idiocy.
- PLindbergh31


Maybe it's coming down from Hextall for whatever reason. I'd like to know what the heated exchange between the two of them was about
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Nov 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
I was happy with the fresh approach Hextall took w/Hakstol. I'm a little concerned with his lineup selections. Bill points out Vinny, but what they hell is he and Manning doing on the PP. Manning can't even stay on his skates. Hopefully Hak stays true to his words, makes adjustments and holds players accountable.

Organizationally the team has a ways to go, I've been to some Phantoms games this year and have been disappointed by the play I've seen. Leier and at times Cousins were the only forwards that were noticeable. Ghost the only dman. Morin did not look strong. Maybe I caught a flat game but this could be a longer rebuild that what all fans were antcipating, meaning Giroux's and Voracek's prime years could be wasted.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 6 @ 8:31 AM ET
Manning needs to come out of the lineup
- YuenglingJagr


Once medvedev is back then Yes take him out please
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:31 AM ET
Maybe it's coming down from Hextall for whatever reason. I'd like to know what the heated exchange between the two of them was about
- funmaster18


What heated exchange?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 6 @ 8:32 AM ET
What heated exchange?
- Just5


There was a report there was one after the Edmonton game
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:33 AM ET
What heated exchange?
- Just5


And Edmonton radio guy apparently tweeted about seeing Hexy and Hak arguing after the Oilers game, but I couldn't find the tweet yesterday.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 6 @ 8:34 AM ET
They're lucky they're out in Western Canada. These bullpoop efforts are getting awfully close to somebody tossing their jersey on the ice.

I need to see a legimate adjustment of some kind. Not swapping guys in and out of the press box. Get someone from the Phantoms up here and give them a chance or get to work on the phones and start seeing who is available and who would make sense to target.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:34 AM ET
personal issues, fainting on the bench, falling on the ice, too many men penalties.....this team is a mess
- vejim

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 6 @ 8:35 AM ET
Yeah, great awareness and stickwork.


- tangent_man


He would be an upgrade over Vinny at this point.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 8:38 AM ET
Bill,
What happened to Sanheim? How bad is the injury? Wow 6 games in a row is disappointing. I just don't get why we can't score aside from the fact most shots don't make it to the net. I thought Simmonds had a strong 3rd period and it made me think that this deadline he may be a hot commodity for teams to ask about adding for playoff push/depth.
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