As advanced as Provorov might look in junior hockey, Hextall really hasn't shown the inclination to move a guy from junior hockey straight into the NHL.
- johndewar

I didn't say he was moving him right to nhl. But I believe he will be the top guy when this team is ready to move forward. I still see them about two years from starting to be a viable team and start making some noise.

Also Wilcox at Cornell. Could be a your stay at home guy with good outlet pass. Kill penalties. They have pieces coming. Just tough waiting
- J35Bacher

Yep, another righty. I'm with you, man. It's not prudent to think they'll hit on all their prospects, but it'd be nice if they can hit on a few of these 3rd-6th rounders they've accumulated. Like Friedman, Fazleev, Vorobyov, Leier, Wilcox, etc.

Konecny should be in junior again next season, and doing his time in the AHL the year after that.


- Tomahawk

I could see that. That's why I would go hard after veasley if available after college season is over. Garuantee whatever to get him and add talent.

Konecny should be in junior again next season, and doing his time in the AHL the year after that.


- Tomahawk

You go (frank) yourself

I love going to other sites and reading flyer fan comments such as several saying Jake should have been traded last year and not handed mega contract and that the only way flyers will be successful is if trade Simmonds Jake and G at the deadline this year. Franking morons

Yep, another righty. I'm with you, man. It's not prudent to think they'll hit on all their prospects, but it'd be nice if they can hit on a few of these 3rd-6th rounders they've accumulated. Like Friedman, Fazleev, Vorobyov, Leier, Wilcox, etc.
- TobyFlenderson

I could see something where they move a den prospect for a forward project.

Exactly.
- Tomahawk

It's mind boggling. When do want to finish paying the price? Next season, or continue it for 4 more seasons. Barring a miracle of all miracles, this team is not going to be anywhere near the level of a contender. So what do we need the cap savings for?

It's mind boggling. When do want to finish paying the price? Next season, or continue it for 4 more seasons. Barring a miracle of all miracles, this team is not going to be anywhere near the level of a contender. So what do we need the cap savings for?
- MJL

A solid guy to be found in FA.

I love going to other sites and reading flyer fan comments such as several saying Jake should have been traded last year and not handed mega contract and that the only way flyers will be successful is if trade Simmonds Jake and G at the deadline this year. Franking morons
- arichardson22

I would move Simmonds. I like him but feel he is a Clarkson type. When relied on to be a goal scorer he just isn't that. When he plays his roll and scores he is fine. I know it sounds dumb but there is a difference.

A solid guy to be found in FA.
- flyer_nutter

For how much and for how long? This upcoming off season is not the time to get into a significant ufa contract. Again it's about the timing.

If you were Vinny, which would you rather do:

A) Continue being part of an NHL team, skating every day and being part of a professional hockey team for 1 more year while making $2.5 million

B) Sitting on a couch and making $0
- jmatchett383

Spend time with my kids while continuring to collect paychecks from Tampa bay?

You go (frank) yourself
- flyer_nutter

( I was expecting that to come from MOAT )

They won't be that tight, if some players are traded, which if the team continues at it's current level of play, that's exactly what they should do. When looking at the cap, some speculation is involved. What future moves will be made, who will be traded, who will be back, who won't.
- MJL

So it's just as simple as trading the guys with decent sized cap hits who aren't playing very well. Cool.

I would move Simmonds. I like him but feel he is a Clarkson type. When relied on to be a goal scorer he just isn't that. When he plays his roll and scores he is fine. I know it sounds dumb but there is a difference.
- J35Bacher

If they can swap him for a similarly aged physical LW with better puck skills i make the move. He's the 3rd RW on our depth chart with Konecny and NAK knocking on the door over the next two years. Our LW situation is a mess. That type of move brings balance we certainly don't have right now.

It's pretty silly to suggest that I stated that 916K will be a huge burden on the Flyers. The point is being free and clear of cap penalties, is better than carrying the cap penalties. It's that simple! What are they going to do with the cap savings for next year, that is so important? To do what? They're going to make some moves. They have around 62M in cap commitments for next season, with some players to re-sign. If they trade players such as Read and Streit, that's another potential 9M of free space. If this team doesn't make the playoffs this year, should they come back the following season and try to do the same things, or should they sell off some pieces, acquire some future assets, and add youth to the team?

I have the utmost respect for you Feanor, and I think you're a very knowledgeable and informed poster, but I completely disagree with you on this.
- MJL

This is the crossroads in this argument and it is clear it's not going any further. 916k in dead money for 2 years after Vinny's contract is well worth the money saved on the remainder of his deal and the roster spot he consumes.

You are arguing this from the perspective that the Flyers trade Read and Streit, which hasn't happened and is not guaranteed to happen. If they are traded, then yes the flyers don't need to buyout Vinny and shouldn't and this debate is completely pointless. When it comes to resigning Medvedev, Raffl, B Schenn, and Gagner as the team is currently constructed...buying out Vinny may be our best and only option. It is a last resort, but I think it would help the team much more than it would hurt.

- hereticpride

best post of the day haha...

If they can swap him for a similarly aged physical LW with better puck skills i make the move. He's the 3rd RW on our depth chart with Konecny and NAK knocking on the door over the next two years. Our LW situation is a mess. That type of move brings balance we certainly don't have right now.
- hereticpride

I like Simmonds.

However when he isn't scoring he isn't contributing more than say a Rinaldo.

As advanced as Provorov might look in junior hockey, Hextall really hasn't shown the inclination to move a guy from junior hockey straight into the NHL.
- johndewar

I think an exception will be made for him because he's physically mature and going to be too good for another year in the WHL and a third shot at the WJC-20. It's a different situation from Sanheim who is still growing into his body and will be attending his first WJC-20 this year.

Konecny should be in junior again next season, and doing his time in the AHL the year after that.


- Tomahawk

You're probably right. We wouldn't want to ruin him like Detroit's ruining Dylan Larkin.

Bill made a comment about Vinny not being in the press box for games he is scratched in. Would be interesting to see if he could develop that at all. That seems to suggest his time commitment to the team is less than most of the others on the team that are actually playing.

( I was expecting that to come from MOAT )
- Tomahawk

No. I have to agree with you. Bury those (frank)ing kids in pixie dust brother. Minor league magic is all the rage. Ask Shannahan. That Nylander kid is going to be a monster in 2018.

If they can swap him for a similarly aged physical LW with better puck skills i make the move. He's the 3rd RW on our depth chart with Konecny and NAK knocking on the door over the next two years. Our LW situation is a mess. That type of move brings balance we certainly don't have right now.
- hereticpride

Agree. I wonder if you could use Simmonds to get a player like rychel or Milano from the blue jackets. Also a guy like skinner intrigues me. Contract is tough but guy has skills. And Carolina seems to be looking to move guys out.

So it's just as simple as trading the guys with decent sized cap hits who aren't playing very well. Cool.
- Feanor

Streit isn't playing well, and won't have value around the league. Read won't have value in a trade? Trades do happen in the NHL. Playoff and contending teams will have interest in those players.

You're probably right. We wouldn't want to ruin him like Detroit's ruining Dylan Larkin.
- Feanor

Lol, I guess if he makes a case for himself like Larkin did, let him play on the top-line next year, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Agree. I wonder if you could use Simmonds to get a player like rychel or Milano from the blue jackets. Also a guy like skinner intrigues me. Contract is tough but guy has skills. And Carolina seems to be looking to move guys out.
- J35Bacher

I wouldn't trade with Carolina. They blow. I'm tired of "stealing good players" from bad teams.