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wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 4 @ 3:51 PM ET
There was a similar play the day before the Flyers' Wives Carnival in 2009. They were playing the Penguins, tied late in the 3rd period. Biron came out past the circles to cover the puck. In order to not get a penalty, he let it go, kind of throwing it behind his back...right to a Penguin (Sykora, maybe). He took it and fed a pass to Crosby for an open goal. I think the final was 5-4.

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- jmatchett383


I was in Homer, Alaska coaching my youth team when that game happened. One of the fathers was a Penguins fan. That sucked.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
that laugh seemed very forced imo
- aightwebang17


It came natural to me last night. Similar to that guy, it was definetly out loud
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
The best part of that was the laugh. (frank)ing wheels.
- flyer_nutter


Oh no. The debauchery of the play was fantastic. So much so I want to make it my avatar but have no clue how to do that
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
There was a similar play the day before the Flyers' Wives Carnival in 2009. They were playing the Penguins, tied late in the 3rd period. Biron came out past the circles to cover the puck. In order to not get a penalty, he let it go, kind of throwing it behind his back...right to a Penguin (Sykora, maybe). He took it and fed a pass to Crosby for an open goal. I think the final was 5-4.

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- jmatchett383

Holy poop, I do remember that.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
I was in Homer, Alaska coaching my youth team when that game happened. One of the fathers was a Penguins fan. That sucked.
- wilsonecho91

So McDavid may be out for the season?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
Holy poop, I do remember that.
- SuperSchennBros


Also, that type of down-low defense is what we in the trade call a "Matt Carle Special."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
So McDavid may be out for the season?

- mayorofangrytown


I've stayed off the major sites. Are the dirty Flyers up to their old tactics, out there trying to injure the new superstar?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:11 PM ET
Whoops, my bad. Yes, Marty Biron. I remember thinking how hard it must have been for him at the carnival the next day.
- jmatchett383

I'll never forget that goal. Terrible. Gotta say though, it's weird seeing Crosby that excited after he scored. He's seemed so joyless in recent history, like a true *beep boop* hockey robot.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:13 PM ET
I was in Homer, Alaska coaching my youth team when that game happened. One of the fathers was a Penguins fan. That sucked.
- wilsonecho91


I was there when that happened with some college buddies who also happened to be Pens fans. I lost many beer bets because of that game.

Not good times.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 4 @ 4:13 PM ET
FTFY - so you can claim it as your own.
- FlyersGrace

Awesome, thanks Grace!!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 4 @ 4:14 PM ET
I know he's been underwhelming so far, but Simmer's still a solid keeper for me -- there's nobody in the system who could replace him and there very few players in the league who can do what he does, as well as he does. Try to replace him through the draft, and prepare to wait half a decade or more for your investment to pay off (if it ever does).

They look terrible, but it's too early for a shakeup, IMO. Let Coots get back in the lineup, then re-evaluate in December. There's probably a Downie/Talbot kind of move you could make then to shake up chemistry.

- Tomahawk


No worries that we have seen Simmonds' peak seasons?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
I've stayed off the major sites. Are the dirty Flyers up to their old tactics, out there trying to injure the new superstar?
- jmatchett383


That's my favorite lazy media narrative of all the lazy media narratives.

The "Big, Bad Flyers".....

Someone should tell them we honored a French Canadian guy a week ago that is like 5'8" and 170 lbs soaking wet.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Nov 4 @ 4:16 PM ET
I'll never forget that goal. Terrible. Gotta say though, it's weird seeing Crosby that excited after he scored. He's seemed so joyless in recent history, like a true *beep boop* hockey robot.
- BulliesPhan87


He also seems like a shell of himself, I don't think he has ever been this same since his bout with concussions. I know he is definitely getting older but not nearly as dominant anymore.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 4:20 PM ET
I've stayed off the major sites. Are the dirty Flyers up to their old tactics, out there trying to injure the new superstar?
- jmatchett383

No. At worst they got tangled up. The spin seems to be he's such a fast player that he lost his edge trying to stop and that his exit from the ice was soooooo heroic that his legend has just grown.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 4 @ 4:21 PM ET
Also, that type of down-low defense is what we in the trade call a "Matt Carle Special."
- jmatchett383


I had no idea peanut gallerying was a trade.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
He also seems like a shell of himself, I don't think he has ever been this same since his bout with concussions. I know he is definitely getting older but not nearly as dominant anymore.
- flyerfan28


Since his bout with concussions he's put up 56 p in 36 games; 104 in 80 (won Hart); and 84 in 77. He would've won the Art Ross in all 3 years probably if he didn't miss some time. He's been as dominant as ever since his concussions. I'll take the odds he turns his game around just like Voracek.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
General question: If you can leave out injuries and are starting a team today, would you take:

Pavel Bure or Alexander Ovechkin
Sergei Fedorov or Pavel Datsyuk
Peter Forsberg or Evgeni Malkin
Paul Kariya or Rick Nash
Teemu Selanne or Patrick Kane
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
B-I-G news coming from Flyers today. This could seriously turn around the season -- may just be the spark the team needs

http://www.broadstreethoc...8/coatesys-corner-is-back

- Mononoke


I can't find a good video of it (there's a crappy one out there and I didn't feel like it did the bit justice) where Simon Gagne and a very young Claude Giroux (this was 2009) are on a line with Coatsey and Gagne and Giroux basically make fun of Coatsey in French the whole bit. That was definitely one of my favorites.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:25 PM ET
Since his bout with concussions he's put up 56 p in 36 games; 104 in 80 (won Hart); and 84 in 77. He would've won the Art Ross in all 3 years probably if he didn't miss some time. He's been as dominant as ever since his concussions. I'll take the odds he turns his game around just like Voracek.
- Mononoke


He's not as "electrifying" as he once was, but he's still every bit as good.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
He also seems like a shell of himself, I font think he has ever been this same since his bout with concussions. I know he is definitely getting older but not nearly as dominant anymore.
- flyerfan28

I think there's team factors contributing to his current scoring slump, but that'll break. He's definitely on the back end of his prime, though. He's still a top player.

If there's one thing that stands out to me about the Sidney Crosby era, in my amateur no-data-having opinion, it's that the NHL is increasingly resistant to one player taking over the game. Maybe a really hot streak for a goaltender, but otherwise the team game is king.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
I had no idea peanut gallerying was a trade.
- Scoob


The proper title is actually a "Carle Scrutinizer." You see, we watch Matt Carle play, overlook any good plays he makes, and harp on any/all mistake making mountains out of Rosehills. And something about Eminger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:28 PM ET
I think there's team factors contributing to his current scoring slump, but that'll break. He's definitely on the back end of his prime, though. He's still a top player.

If there's one thing that stands out to me about the Sidney Crosby era, in my amateur no-data-having opinion, it's that the NHL is increasingly resistant to one player taking over the game. Maybe a really hot streak for a goaltender, but otherwise the team game is king.

- BulliesPhan87


And Penguins fans couldn't be more upset about it.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
General question: If you can leave out injuries and are starting a team today, would you take:

Pavel Bure or Alexander Ovechkin
Sergei Fedorov or Pavel Datsyuk
Peter Forsberg or Evgeni Malkin
Paul Kariya or Rick Nash
Teemu Selanne or Patrick Kane

- jmatchett383


Bure, but not by much
Fedorov, but not by much
Forsberg
Kariya and it's not close (for me, at least)
Teemu forever
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
Bure, but not by much
Fedorov, but not by much
Forsberg
Kariya and it's not close (for me, at least)
Teemu forever

- johndewar


Yeah, finding a Kariya comparable was hard. Nash isn't it. Maybe he's closer to Kane than Teemu.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 4 @ 4:33 PM ET
General question: If you can leave out injuries and are starting a team today, would you take:
- jmatchett383


Pavel Bure or Alexander Ovechkin
Sergei Fedorov or Pavel Datsyuk
Peter Forsberg or Evgeni Malkin
Paul Kariya or Rick Nash
Teemu Selanne or Patrick Kane
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