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Emcee27
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.30.2012

Nov 2 @ 10:16 PM ET
Game 6 or 7 last year against Columbus Gaudreau was a healthy scratch and watched from the press box as Josh Jooris took his spot and score a goal, in his NHL debut.
Gaudreau came back the next game, which I think was against Winnipeg and had a goal and added 1 or 2 assists. From there he just took off, and never looked back. He said he got a good perspective from watching the game from there and used it constructively to improve his game

Wideman was also scratched for a game early last season and came back better and more focused.

- InSutterWeTrust


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Emcee27
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.30.2012

Nov 2 @ 10:17 PM ET
You drunk? I didn't realize Gaudreau was put on the pine...

I'm guessing you're thinking Widedog.

- DouglasFir


Not drunk tonight, but yes, gaud did ride the pine for a game and it did wonders
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:30 PM ET
Read the sentence again....you'll figure it out one day champ.
- The-O-G

Winning 3 out of your initial 12 games of the season doesn't equate to anything other than a complete and utter disaster. The inclusion of the words "remotely resembling" is still an inaccurate statement. It wouldn't have mattered if they played the greatest regular season game of all time... (they defeated the laughing stock of the league for the last decade Edmonton Oilers by a single goal) it still would have amounted to a single positive effort amongst an otherwise lackluster season. It is what it is, but you'll get it one day champ.
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:36 PM ET
About the same as the Kings not making the playoffs last year...
- geta02it

Yeah, but it's funny as those things are often forgiven when 2 out of your previous 3 years prior to that were championships. Flames had a single positive year where they rode the wave of almost all of their players overachieving for a year. you're seeing the result of what happens when they return back to their career averages.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:56 PM ET
Yeah, but it's funny as those things are often forgiven when 2 out of your previous 3 years prior to that were championships. Flames had a single positive year where they rode the wave of almost all of their players overachieving for a year. you're seeing the result of what happens when they return back to their career averages.
- Woodysdemise


Thanks, Ken Campbell. Now tell us about our Corsi and throw in some Fenwick percentages and climb back in the garbage can you were born out of.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:08 PM ET
Thanks, Ken Campbell. Now tell us about our Corsi and throw in some Fenwick percentages and climb back in the garbage can you were born out of.
- fry


Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:36 PM ET
Thanks, Ken Campbell. Now tell us about our Corsi and throw in some Fenwick percentages and climb back in the garbage can you were born out of.
- fry

Truth hurts doesn't it? How many times will people be forced to witness a young team overachieve only to crap the bed the ensuing season and act completely flabbergasted once it's happened? try and be objective for just a moment, were you honestly convinced the Flames were going to have the same season they did last year? They had a single good year that misled people into believing they had already become a great team... you familiar at all with the old saying about not believing things that seem to good to be true? yeah, case in point here.
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:45 PM ET
Thanks, Ken Campbell. Now tell us about our Corsi and throw in some Fenwick percentages and climb back in the garbage can you were born out of.
- fry


And you're welcome! Always cherish the opportunity to inject a dose of realism into the veins of those who require it!
Emcee27
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.30.2012

Nov 2 @ 11:58 PM ET
Truth hurts doesn't it? How many times will people be forced to witness a young team overachieve only to crap the bed the ensuing season and act completely flabbergasted once it's happened? try and be objective for just a moment, were you honestly convinced the Flames were going to have the same season they did last year? They had a single good year that misled people into believing they had already become a great team... you familiar at all with the old saying about not hbelieving things that seem to good to be true? yeah, case in point here.
- Woodysdemise


Buddy, step off that high horse for a minute. It's been 11 games and the flames have had at least 10 games of terrible goaltending. There is still time to turn it around. The defence, and certain forwards are already turning it around, just need some average to above average goaltending and we could go on a little run here. We have the talent to do it.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Nov 3 @ 12:12 AM ET
And you're welcome! Always cherish the opportunity to inject a dose of realism into the veins of those who require it!
- Woodysdemise


They live next to the ocean; yet I didn't think LA fans would be so salty.

Salt salt salty.

Did the Anaheim fans bail and you have no one to pour salt on? Didn't you guys start out well last year only to fall apart against basement teams late season? I'd worry about that and Daryll's shelf-life before you start preaching Campbell-isms.

Wait didn't you fools have the best corsi in the league last year!?! Man, we hear that stuff all the time and we still have an exciting team to watch that can win any night.
Sirmerksalot
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 3 @ 1:58 AM ET
Lol no, they beat a mediocre team I'm the oilers and got lucky doing so
2 gaffs by talbot and a brutal non goal.
Can't wait for the rematch boys
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 3 @ 2:49 AM ET
Buddy, step off that high horse for a minute. It's been 11 games and the flames have had at least 10 games of terrible goaltending. There is still time to turn it around. The defence, and certain forwards are already turning it around, just need some average to above average goaltending and we could go on a little run here. We have the talent to do it.
- Emcee27

think you guys have misunderstood the point here... I'm not saying the Calgary Flames are a bad hockey team whose season is over with a mere 10% of the season completed. But felt I had to comment on the absurdity of Todd's article and the suggestion that they may have begun to look like a playoff team after beating the Edmonton Oilers 5 to 4. Just thought that was taking optimism to the next level. completely agree regarding the goaltending. Without it, no team has a chance. have only been pointing out what I've felt to be fairly obvious. natural regression taking place after a year in which everything went right for them.
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 3 @ 3:05 AM ET
They live next to the ocean; yet I didn't think LA fans would be so salty.

Salt salt salty.

Did the Anaheim fans bail and you have no one to pour salt on? Didn't you guys start out well last year only to fall apart against basement teams late season? I'd worry about that and Daryll's shelf-life before you start preaching Campbell-isms.

Wait didn't you fools have the best corsi in the league last year!?! Man, we hear that stuff all the time and we still have an exciting team to watch that can win any night.

- fry

Yup, we've been dominant in corsi since 2012. Shocking.... and we've won 2 championships and appeared in a western conference finals since then.... what a coincidence! wanna know about another team who is consistently pretty damn good at corsi? the blackhawks... which is even wierder cause i think they've won a cup or 2 or 3 as well. another insane coincidence. it's almost as if there's a correlation between good corsi and championships!! no wonder you've become so sensitive to people that place value on the statistics of the game. It's a rather frustrating reminder for you as to just how far the Flames have to come to ever have a lasting, legitimate chance at winning anything of significance in the NHL.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Nov 3 @ 4:03 AM ET
Yup, we've been dominant in corsi since 2012. Shocking.... and we've won 2 championships and appeared in a western conference finals since then.... what a coincidence! wanna know about another team who is consistently pretty damn good at corsi? the blackhawks... which is even wierder cause i think they've won a cup or 2 or 3 as well. another insane coincidence. it's almost as if there's a correlation between good corsi and championships!! no wonder you've become so sensitive to people that place value on the statistics of the game. It's a rather frustrating reminder for you as to just how far the Flames have to come to ever have a lasting, legitimate chance at winning anything of significance in the NHL.
- Woodysdemise


Hah the salt is too real. The Hawks looked way better than the Kings tonight. The Quenneville cycle was too much for the Kings and now you're just using them to validate Corsi. A strong cycle isn't relative to advanced stats if they're actually looking for a cross-ice chance or simply wanting a shot off the cycle. Entirely subjective.

Hah well you're just a 4 year fan? I followed the Mattias Norstrom years and great job; you had a pretty godamn miserable team for a long time that you probably didn't give a poop about when I was playing and learning the game.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Nov 3 @ 9:54 AM ET
think you guys have misunderstood the point here... I'm not saying the Calgary Flames are a bad hockey team whose season is over with a mere 10% of the season completed. But felt I had to comment on the absurdity of Todd's article and the suggestion that they may have begun to look like a playoff team after beating the Edmonton Oilers 5 to 4. Just thought that was taking optimism to the next level. completely agree regarding the goaltending. Without it, no team has a chance. have only been pointing out what I've felt to be fairly obvious. natural regression taking place after a year in which everything went right for them.
- Woodysdemise


Well the Flames kind of are a bad hockey team and they're probably have no shot at the playoffs.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Nov 3 @ 3:32 PM ET
think you guys have misunderstood the point here... I'm not saying the Calgary Flames are a bad hockey team whose season is over with a mere 10% of the season completed. But felt I had to comment on the absurdity of Todd's article and the suggestion that they may have begun to look like a playoff team after beating the Edmonton Oilers 5 to 4. Just thought that was taking optimism to the next level. completely agree regarding the goaltending. Without it, no team has a chance. have only been pointing out what I've felt to be fairly obvious. natural regression taking place after a year in which everything went right for them.
- Woodysdemise


I think you are still missing the point of Todd's blog. He's not citing the win against Edmonton as a sign that we are "turning it around". He pointed out that over the last few games the team as a whole is playing much better, and our advanced stats (the reason many pundits expected us to regress) have trended upwards into positive possession territory. He's basically saying that, with the exception of our goaltending, this team is beginning to perform to a level they were expected to at the start of the season.
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