Yeah I know, I hope he's better than fine but I'll be patient even while others in that draft take off, like Larkin too.
- GilPerreault11

People take off and peak at different points. Some show their value in points some in defense etc.

It's been 10 games and they're all still around 20 right? Not discrediting the other players but the ranking will probably change several times just this year alone.

Personally, I think that draft is stronger than people say it is.

Larkin
Bennett
Draisaitl
Pastrnak
McCann
Ekblad
Reinhart

All seem like pretty good players already. I agree though, Reinhart does not seem like the best forward in that bunch at all yet
- sbroads24

worth mentioning that he also plays on the worst team of that bunch/

People take off and peak at different points. Some show their value in points some in defense etc.

It's been 10 games and they're all still around 20 right? Not discrediting the other players but the ranking will probably change several times just this year alone.
- Sabresfan-365

Agreed, but for someone who was picked 2nd, he has not separated himself from any player in his class. I do think he will be very good, just never great

Agreed, but for someone who was picked 2nd, he has not separated himself from any player in his class. I do think he will be very good, just never great
- sbroads24

Even if he had that ability, i don't think he'd be able to display it on this team unless we suddenly got very deep on the wings.

For all the crap Murray took on the lehner trade, the Talbot one looks just as bad but barely a mention of it.

Personally, I think that draft is stronger than people say it is.

Larkin
Bennett
Draisaitl
Pastrnak
McCann
Ekblad
Reinhart

All seem like pretty good players already. I agree though, Reinhart does not seem like the best forward in that bunch at all yet
- sbroads24

Yeah, just no franchise forwards good players and maybe regular all star in Ekblad. I just hope Reinhart is taking longer than some because he might have 4 points but some games he's hardly noticed. Good job standing in front of the net on the PP but 2nds overall should be be able to do more than that consistently.

For all the crap Murray took on the lehner trade, the Talbot one looks just as bad but barely a mention of it.
- Sabresfan-365

There is a big difference between the 21st pick, and picks 57 and 79

For all the crap Murray took on the lehner trade, the Talbot one looks just as bad but barely a mention of it.
- Sabresfan-365

I was going to bring that up, he looked like crap tonight. I had no problem with 1st for Lehner myself, now when he gets healed I hope he is at least a desent goalie.

Yeah, just no franchise forwards good players and maybe regular all star in Ekblad. I just hope Reinhart is taking longer than some because he might have 4 points but some games he's hardly noticed. Good job standing in front of the net on the PP but 2nds overall should be be able to do more than that consistently.
- GilPerreault11

Obviously been a while but I recall that draft being regarded as rather weak in comparison to others. it's why i don't really compare him to other 2nd overalls. Same with how you wouldn't really compare Eichel with other 2nd overalls.

There is a big difference between the 21st pick, and picks 57 and 79
- sbroads24

Also a big difference between 24 year old RFA vs 28 year old pending UFA

I was going to bring that up, he looked like crap tonight. I had no problem with 1st for Lehner myself, now when he gets healed I hope he is at least a desent goalie.
- GilPerreault11

I just find it funny that it's hardly brought up. Same with the leafs tank. Not a word. But they were all taking the moral high ground when the sabres did it.


Hatty

Eichel is on pace for a 30 goal season.
- mhp

Finally a player to get excited about....

O'Rielly is also lookin (frank)in gnarly

I just find it funny that it's hardly brought up. Same with the leafs tank. Not a word. But they were all taking the moral high ground when the sabres did it.


Hatty
- Sabresfan-365

Oh, the Leafs tank is classic. I was listening to Leafs Lunch the other day and they were on their high horse referring to the Sabres tank totally oblivious to the tank right under their nose

Oh, the Leafs tank is classic. I was listening to Leafs Lunch the other day and they were on their high horse referring to the Sabres tank totally oblivious to the tank right under their nose
- GilPerreault11

Their management team was more subtle and the media/fans (including myself) actually bought it.

Hiring a big time coach who is all about the winning to a big money contract to distract everyone from the fact that they essentially gutted their roster, put the prospects on the other side of downtown toronto, and filled the nhl team with vets on 1 year deals.

But they're not tanking

Their management team was more subtle and the media/fans (including myself) actually bought it.

Hiring a big time coach who is all about the winning to a big money contract to distract everyone from the fact that they essentially gutted their roster, put the prospects on the other side of downtown toronto, and filled the nhl team with vets on 1 year deals.

But they're not tanking
- Sabresfan-365

I didn't really buy it from day one even when they went to get Babcock for 8 years. They said it was going to hurt, they ditched Kessel and if you look at that team it is a bunch of average, no name players except for a few. They are keeping Nylander in the AHL their best prospect and bring up 4th liners. Now what I thought might hurt them was if Bernier played well but they must think he isn't the goalie they traded for.

Oh, the Leafs tank is classic. I was listening to Leafs Lunch the other day and they were on their high horse referring to the Sabres tank totally oblivious to the tank right under their nose
- GilPerreault11

I hope they pick fourth.

I hope they pick fourth.
- rover16

I hope they go on a huge run and miss the playoffs by a point.

Personally, I think that draft is stronger than people say it is.

Larkin
Bennett
Draisaitl
Pastrnak
McCann
Ekblad
Reinhart

All seem like pretty good players already. I agree though, Reinhart does not seem like the best forward in that bunch at all yet
- sbroads24

Reinhart looks like the worst out of that group so far.

Agreed, but for someone who was picked 2nd, he has not separated himself from any player in his class. I do think he will be very good, just never great
- sbroads24

Umm, other than Ekblad who played all of last year. Draisaitl has the most games played out of that top end group with 39 or 40 I think. I'd say it's a tad premature to say he, Reinhart all 20 games of experience, should've separated himself from anyone yet, or because I know you like precision, been able to separate himself.

20 games, that's about 7ish weeks worth. There's an old saying "I can stand on my head in a bucket of sh1t for 7 weeks".

I know it's the "I want it now goddamnit!" generation/era, but for Christ's sake let's give the kid a few years, or at least until he's old enough to drink here before we start saying that he can't separate himself from other players.

And he doesn't even need to be "great" at least not for 8 years; when ROR's contract is up. Sure there have been rookies in all major sports that come in and fit in right away and do great things, but 99% of players take time before they're great, or even any good on a consistent basis. Getzlaf didn't have his "breakout" season until he was 22, Perry was 23, well he had 29G and 54P the year before, but in 08-09 he scored 32G and 72P, Zetterberg was 25, Pominville was 24, it took even Stamkos 41 games to score 5G, and I've not heard one, single, solitary person compare Reinhart to Stamkos, Henrik and Daniel took until they were 25 before their breakout seasons. Those are guys just off the top of my head who took a while to breakout in this league. Those guys are all just off the top of my head, and I can think of even more, but my point is made. Saying a guy can't separate himself after a whopping 7 weeks is ridiculous to the point of absurd.

And you can't call me a hypocrite, because, in all my posts I've been one of the ones calling for time for all the players in the trades to see what we've got, maybe the all-star break which is early even then and Reinhart I'd say at least this year before we know where he's at/going. I've gotta say though I'm damn impressed with how far he's come just since the first few games of the season. I'd like to see him be bit more physical. Not running into the corners laying guys out, but just strong on the puck, but even with that he's come a long way. In the first couple games he'd get knocked on his ass, now he just gets knocked a couple feet away and stays up.

Umm, other than Ekblad who played all of last year. Draisaitl has the most games played out of that top end group with 39 or 40 I think. I'd say it's a tad premature to say he, Reinhart all 20 games of experience, should've separated himself from anyone yet, or because I know you like precision, been able to separate himself.

20 games, that's about 7ish weeks worth. There's an old saying "I can stand on my head in a bucket of sh1t for 7 weeks".

I know it's the "I want it now goddamnit!" generation/era, but for Christ's sake let's give the kid a few years, or at least until he's old enough to drink here before we start saying that he can't separate himself from other players.

And he doesn't even need to be "great" at least not for 8 years; when ROR's contract is up. Sure there have been rookies in all major sports that come in and fit in right away and do great things, but 99% of players take time before they're great, or even any good on a consistent basis. Getzlaf didn't have his "breakout" season until he was 22, Perry was 23, well he had 29G and 54P the year before, but in 08-09 he scored 32G and 72P, Zetterberg was 25, Pominville was 24, it took even Stamkos 41 games to score 5G, and I've not heard one, single, solitary person compare Reinhart to Stamkos, Henrik and Daniel took until they were 25 before their breakout seasons. Those are guys just off the top of my head who took a while to breakout in this league. Those guys are all just off the top of my head, and I can think of even more, but my point is made. Saying a guy can't separate himself after a whopping 7 weeks is ridiculous to the point of absurd.

And you can't call me a hypocrite, because, in all my posts I've been one of the ones calling for time for all the players in the trades to see what we've got, maybe the all-star break which is early even then and Reinhart I'd say at least this year before we know where he's at/going. I've gotta say though I'm damn impressed with how far he's come just since the first few games of the season. I'd like to see him be bit more physical. Not running into the corners laying guys out, but just strong on the puck, but even with that he's come a long way. In the first couple games he'd get knocked on his ass, now he just gets knocked a couple feet away and stays up.
- Wetbandit1

I don't know about the bucket part, but I agree with the rest of this post.

Umm, other than Ekblad who played all of last year. Draisaitl has the most games played out of that top end group with 39 or 40 I think. I'd say it's a tad premature to say he, Reinhart all 20 games of experience, should've separated himself from anyone yet, or because I know you like precision, been able to separate himself.

20 games, that's about 7ish weeks worth. There's an old saying "I can stand on my head in a bucket of sh1t for 7 weeks".

I know it's the "I want it now goddamnit!" generation/era, but for Christ's sake let's give the kid a few years, or at least until he's old enough to drink here before we start saying that he can't separate himself from other players.

And he doesn't even need to be "great" at least not for 8 years; when ROR's contract is up. Sure there have been rookies in all major sports that come in and fit in right away and do great things, but 99% of players take time before they're great, or even any good on a consistent basis. Getzlaf didn't have his "breakout" season until he was 22, Perry was 23, well he had 29G and 54P the year before, but in 08-09 he scored 32G and 72P, Zetterberg was 25, Pominville was 24, it took even Stamkos 41 games to score 5G, and I've not heard one, single, solitary person compare Reinhart to Stamkos, Henrik and Daniel took until they were 25 before their breakout seasons. Those are guys just off the top of my head who took a while to breakout in this league. Those guys are all just off the top of my head, and I can think of even more, but my point is made. Saying a guy can't separate himself after a whopping 7 weeks is ridiculous to the point of absurd.

And you can't call me a hypocrite, because, in all my posts I've been one of the ones calling for time for all the players in the trades to see what we've got, maybe the all-star break which is early even then and Reinhart I'd say at least this year before we know where he's at/going. I've gotta say though I'm damn impressed with how far he's come just since the first few games of the season. I'd like to see him be bit more physical. Not running into the corners laying guys out, but just strong on the puck, but even with that he's come a long way. In the first couple games he'd get knocked on his ass, now he just gets knocked a couple feet away and stays up.
- Wetbandit1

great post!

I don't even count last years games for him. Give him a year or two to mature physically and get use to speed and he will be fine. He is very smart player and will adjust his game.

great post!

I don't even count last years games for him. Give him a year or two to mature physically and get use to speed and he will be fine. He is very smart player and will adjust his game.
- gibby111

Yup, the kid is coach able as well, he listens and then does it as evidenced by his development last year. I'm sure he will mature physically over the next year, 2 years...and that will help him incredibly.
This team also needs finishers...2 RWs who can fill the next is needed.
And for Ennis to stop trying to be superman, just play within himself.

I didn't really buy it from day one even when they went to get Babcock for 8 years. They said it was going to hurt, they ditched Kessel and if you look at that team it is a bunch of average, no name players except for a few. They are keeping Nylander in the AHL their best prospect and bring up 4th liners. Now what I thought might hurt them was if Bernier played well but they must think he isn't the goalie they traded for.
- GilPerreault11

Off of that team, I like JVR and Bozak.

Would not mind either one of them wearing a Sabres sweater.

In the first couple games he'd get knocked on his ass, now he just gets knocked a couple feet away and stays up.
- Wetbandit1

Good point. I'm not expecting him to be any more physical than say, Jason Pomminville, but he seems to be not getting into the positions to get flattened so much the last 3-4 games.

Off of that team, I like JVR and Bozak.

Would not mind either one of them wearing a Sabres sweater.
- BuffaloHardHat

From the area so i get to see him quite a bit. You don't want any part of that and his contract on this team.