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Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
1/12th of the season is already gone.

It's clearly time to panic.

- Atomic Wedgie



We're damn good at panicking!
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Jesus, I don't even know where to begin with my 1st post in months. I figured I'd check in after a few games and see what's what on HB. Some things never change I guess. But, based on where the Pens are currently at, lets reflect a bit....

1. I was one of the lone soles clamoring for the Pens to trade Kunitz BEFORE the '14 Olympics. I could see him slipping even back then. But, everyone including your resident blogmaster, suggested I didn't know what I was talking about. "You cant trade Kunitz! He makes under $4 mill and scores 30 goals!" RW kept mentioning his hands and analytics as if trying to justify his uselessness. Kunitz is D-O-N-E. I've know it for 2 years now. The rest of you are just coming to this conclusion now. He gets 1st line time, plays more often than not on the 1st PP. 1 point in 30 games. But, hey, his analytics look good! I guarantee you, Horny is pissed off right now that his PP time was awarded to midget Tanner Glass. Enjoy Kunitz and that "bargain" contract for this season and next. Good teams (i.e. Chicago) trade him 2 years ago for assets to rebuild. Ya'll wanted him, ya'll got him. Stop complaining about him and keep thinking the overpaid 6th defenseman is the problem. Its the uneducated viewpoint just so you all know....

2. I was flat out against the Perron trade. Most everyone loved it. Gave up a 1st for that bum. Anyone with a Center Ice subscription and the time to watch 10 or so Oilers games at the time could realize how bad a player he was. Now, I admit, after his hot start when he 1st arrived, I was thinking he may prove me wrong afterall. But, alas, as usual, I was right again. Terrible player.

3. Before I signed off months ago, I said if the Pens did indeed trade for Kessel, that would be the final nail in the coffin. And here we are. Now, dirty little secret #1...Phil is the Pens most skilled player. 71, 58, and 87 included. He actually has been playing as I expected him to. Been one of our better players. But, he isn't what this team needed. He's a poor fit for Sid. I knew that 6 months ago. Everyone always says "If Kessel can score 30 playing with Bozak, imagine how many he'll score with Sid!". Um, how about 30? Dirty little secret #2...Sid's tough to play with and very particular with his wingers. He just doesn't automagically mesh with everyone as we've seen. He doesn't really elevate his wingers as much as we all like to think he does. After about 30 or so games with Sid, Phil will be begging for Tyler Bozak.

4. Dirty little secret #3...of the Pens core 3 (87, 71, 58), only 1 is effective playing on the PP. If you guessed 71, you get a point. 58 isn't a pointman. No hockey instincts whatsoever. 87's PP game consists of blind cross-ice passes and trying to fight 71 to get position on the 1/2 wall. Malkin needs to run the PP, not 58.

5. Dirty little secret #4...71 and 87 can no longer carry this team. Not skilled enough. Don't consistently put forth full effort. Not 100% engaged all of the time. Been this way for over a year now.

6. Dirty little secret #5...Pens main problem right now is they cant get any time and space because they cannot skate. Was at the Dallas game last night. Sat dead center ice, first row, top bowl. Watched for 60 horrifying minutes as the Stars just suffocated the Pens. They had nowhere to go. Its amazing how unskilled a supposed skilled team looks when a faster team takes away passing lanes, pressures the puck, and counter-attacks.

7. Dear HCMJ, if you wish to save your job, please put 81 with 71 and 87 with 72. Kessel isn't a one-time shot kinda guy. He's a peel-off-the-boards and let it rip or score-on-the-rush kinda guy. What part of that meshes with 87? 87 isn't great on the rush. His strength is peeling off the boards using his frame, and getting pucks on goal. Kessel aint picking up that garbage. That's more in Horny's wheelhouse. The 1 of 10 cross-ice passes he makes that will actually land on Kessels stick will likely go unscored anyway. Sid's powerful goaline game meshes perfectly with 72 and Malkin's rush game and power skating meshes better with Kessel's. Also, 71 will draw more attention away from 81 as teams will have to respect his shot way more than 87's. Need more proof? Think James Neal. He was useless with Sid but perfect with 71. Same thing applies here. If we are to believe the lines in practice today, you all will realize what I already know by about 11PM Saturday evening. Maximize your idiotic investment in Kessel and play him with 71. He'll score 40 if he plays with 71. He'll be lucky to hit 30 with 87.

8. This article proposes trading Horny for another asset. I cannot, in words, articulate how utterly stupid that suggestion is. On a team full of soft players, lets trade one of the lone few who shows up every day, gives a crap, goes balls to the wall, and actually cares. The biggest problem with 72 right now is he's playing with the wrong center. It's horrifying to me that our coach cannot see this. Did anyone watch 71 and 72 play last year? It was a disaster. We've been clamoring for years now about having no wingers. Now, the blogmaster general wants to trade our 2nd best one who possesses a skillset no one else on the friking roster has. Seriously..anyone else want to takeover as the master blogger?? RW says the window has passed on trading Kunitz! Really? I had been saying that for years and you called me an idiot every time. Now you say the window is closed intimating they should have moved him? You were the leader of the keep Kunitz camp with all your charts and graphs telling everyone how he was playing well. Now, you finally realize it.

Enjoy the team most of you wished for. Most of you welcomed Perron with open arms. Most of you welcomed a Kessel trade. And, last but not least, almost all of you wanted Kunitz kept around.

Am I an a-hole? Perhaps. But, I'm also an a-hole who's right way more than I'm wrong

- 87_71_11_29

Are your shoulders bruised from patting yourself on the back so hard? I think I liked it better when you weren't posting. That being said I can't believe the team hasn't hired you to fix everything oh vast fountain of hockey insight. I didn't read most of this post but I'm pretty sure I don't agree with most- all of it.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 23 @ 1:58 PM ET


how much of Kessel's game do you watch? Because I've seen him score every which way possible, including the garbage in front of the net, and the one timer. Soooo.. I'm not really sure but to me, it looks like their are plenty more goals around the net on Phil's side than Horny's... and their are also plenty more goals overall...

- j.boyd919


Everyone loves Hornqvist because he clearly gives his best effort and that's great, but the reality is he isn't producing in his role at all. Hopefully it's just chemistry and he will get back to producing with Crosby but at this point he has been extremely disappointing.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
We're damn good at panicking!
- Guile


Some of it is justified. This team doesn't look right to me. Heck, it doesn't really look like a team at times. Just a bunch of individuals skating around, passing to no one in particular.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
Everyone loves Hornqvist because he clearly gives his best effort and that's great, but the reality is he isn't producing in his role at all. Hopefully it's just chemistry and he will get back to producing with Crosby but at this point he has been extremely disappointing.
- jfkst1


I effed up, accidentally had had Horny's charts on ES only. If it is just chemistry than so be it... but I don't buy that Kessel is a bad fit for Crosby, from the games I've seen those 2 have chances left and right that just don't get buried.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
Some of it is justified. This team doesn't look right to me. Heck, it doesn't really look like a team at times. Just a bunch of individuals skating around, passing to no one in particular.
- chimpira



Ya have Crosby playing with linemates more suited for Malkin and vice versa... and a LOT of after the fact "hockey geniuses" showing up and acting smug.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
1/12th of the season is already gone.

It's clearly time to panic.

- Atomic Wedgie


Okay thats the 11th time with that joke.

The Penguins are 8-19 in their last 27. Thats a trend.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
You will dismiss this as trolling but having been burned on several Pens bets (they'll finally get it together tonight!) and having 87 on my high-stakes fantasy team, it actually is not the case:

The Penguins are awful; as in not even close to making the playoffs awful. Blue Jacket awful (honestly they looked better in Todd Richards's last game than the Pens did last night). After the way last night's game ended, with that embarrassingly punchless 6-on-3 power play for nearly 2 minutes, I was expecting to wake up to headlines of "Pens Clean House." They remind me of the Devils back in the beginning of 2010-11 when John MacLean was head coach and you'd see the names on the back of the jerseys (at least of the forwards and the goalie) and just assume it was a matter of time before they get together. Then December rolls around and they are something like 7-18-5 and the season's already over.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
I effed up, accidentally had had Horny's charts on ES only. If it is just chemistry than so be it... but I don't buy that Kessel is a bad fit for Crosby, from the games I've seen those 2 have chances left and right that just don't get buried.
- j.boyd919


7 games is a complete playoff series. I think it is time to try something different than continuing to force what they have tried. I have no idea if Malkin/Kessel and Crosby/Hornqvist will be better, but I believe it deserves a look at this point. If this doesn't work, they can try something else or go back.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:07 PM ET
Not sifting through the posts, but anyone point out the line combos for today?

Dupuis-Crosby-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Malkin-Kessel
Kunitz-Bonino-Sprong
Farnham, Rust, Porter, Perron, and Cullen rotating


1st and 2nd line getting the looks we thought might have been better from the get go. Not sure if Duper can take 1st line minutes, but he deserves a shot. Perron on the 4th line just hurts... So damn good when he got here, then he and everyone was hurt, and hes still slumping. Personally, I'd be shipping Kunitz to the 4th and having Perron on the 3rd.

Oh, and of course, break Scud's knees, get Clendening up here!

- Guile

Agree with Perron, he playing with Bonino and Sprong could really generate some offense BUT lets get rid of Cullen, Porter and use Farnham sparingly and get Oskar up here where he belongs. Fehr and Bennet will be back by Halloween is the report which is the good news! In 2 weeks time, barring a significant injury we should be much improved at forward anyways. Does anyone know is Fehr can play LW or Bonino for that matter? We could try:
Perron Crosby Hornquist
Bonino Malkin Kessel
Sprong Fehr Bennet
Plotnikov Sundquist Dupuis
Farnham Cullen Rust.

Trade Kunitz and Lovejoy for Hamhuis.
Letang Maatta
Cole Hamhuis
Dumoulin Clendening
Erixonn Scudmuffin

The whole playing Scuderi until he dies of old age or gets injured is not working Mike.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
You will dismiss this as trolling but having been burned on several Pens bets (they'll finally get it together tonight!) and having 87 on my high-stakes fantasy team, it actually is not the case:

The Penguins are awful; as in not even close to making the playoffs awful. Blue Jacket awful (honestly they looked better in Todd Richards's last game than the Pens did last night). After the way last night's game ended, with that embarrassingly punchless 6-on-3 power play for nearly 2 minutes, I was expecting to wake up to headlines of "Pens Clean House." They remind me of the Devils back in the beginning of 2010-11 when John MacLean was head coach and you'd see the names on the back of the jerseys (at least of the forwards and the goalie) and just assume it was a matter of time before they get together. Then December rolls around and they are something like 7-18-5 and the season's already over.

- Snowblind


Not even close. GA/G: Pens 2.14 Jackets 4.63
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
You will dismiss this as trolling but having been burned on several Pens bets (they'll finally get it together tonight!) and having 87 on my high-stakes fantasy team, it actually is not the case:

The Penguins are awful; as in not even close to making the playoffs awful. Blue Jacket awful (honestly they looked better in Todd Richards's last game than the Pens did last night). After the way last night's game ended, with that embarrassingly punchless 6-on-3 power play for nearly 2 minutes, I was expecting to wake up to headlines of "Pens Clean House." They remind me of the Devils back in the beginning of 2010-11 when John MacLean was head coach and you'd see the names on the back of the jerseys (at least of the forwards and the goalie) and just assume it was a matter of time before they get together. Then December rolls around and they are something like 7-18-5 and the season's already over.

- Snowblind


Yup. They are truly awful. They play "I don't give a phuck" hockey. It is very uninspiring. But then again, that seems to be the status quo that the Front Office is OK with.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
Jesus, I don't even know where to begin with my 1st post in months. I figured I'd check in after a few games and see what's what on HB. Some things never change I guess. But, based on where the Pens are currently at, lets reflect a bit....

1. I was one of the lone soles clamoring for the Pens to trade Kunitz BEFORE the '14 Olympics. I could see him slipping even back then. But, everyone including your resident blogmaster, suggested I didn't know what I was talking about. "You cant trade Kunitz! He makes under $4 mill and scores 30 goals!" RW kept mentioning his hands and analytics as if trying to justify his uselessness. Kunitz is D-O-N-E. I've know it for 2 years now. The rest of you are just coming to this conclusion now. He gets 1st line time, plays more often than not on the 1st PP. 1 point in 30 games. But, hey, his analytics look good! I guarantee you, Horny is pissed off right now that his PP time was awarded to midget Tanner Glass. Enjoy Kunitz and that "bargain" contract for this season and next. Good teams (i.e. Chicago) trade him 2 years ago for assets to rebuild. Ya'll wanted him, ya'll got him. Stop complaining about him and keep thinking the overpaid 6th defenseman is the problem. Its the uneducated viewpoint just so you all know....

2. I was flat out against the Perron trade. Most everyone loved it. Gave up a 1st for that bum. Anyone with a Center Ice subscription and the time to watch 10 or so Oilers games at the time could realize how bad a player he was. Now, I admit, after his hot start when he 1st arrived, I was thinking he may prove me wrong afterall. But, alas, as usual, I was right again. Terrible player.

3. Before I signed off months ago, I said if the Pens did indeed trade for Kessel, that would be the final nail in the coffin. And here we are. Now, dirty little secret #1...Phil is the Pens most skilled player. 71, 58, and 87 included. He actually has been playing as I expected him to. Been one of our better players. But, he isn't what this team needed. He's a poor fit for Sid. I knew that 6 months ago. Everyone always says "If Kessel can score 30 playing with Bozak, imagine how many he'll score with Sid!". Um, how about 30? Dirty little secret #2...Sid's tough to play with and very particular with his wingers. He just doesn't automagically mesh with everyone as we've seen. He doesn't really elevate his wingers as much as we all like to think he does. After about 30 or so games with Sid, Phil will be begging for Tyler Bozak.

4. Dirty little secret #3...of the Pens core 3 (87, 71, 58), only 1 is effective playing on the PP. If you guessed 71, you get a point. 58 isn't a pointman. No hockey instincts whatsoever. 87's PP game consists of blind cross-ice passes and trying to fight 71 to get position on the 1/2 wall. Malkin needs to run the PP, not 58.

5. Dirty little secret #4...71 and 87 can no longer carry this team. Not skilled enough. Don't consistently put forth full effort. Not 100% engaged all of the time. Been this way for over a year now.

6. Dirty little secret #5...Pens main problem right now is they cant get any time and space because they cannot skate. Was at the Dallas game last night. Sat dead center ice, first row, top bowl. Watched for 60 horrifying minutes as the Stars just suffocated the Pens. They had nowhere to go. Its amazing how unskilled a supposed skilled team looks when a faster team takes away passing lanes, pressures the puck, and counter-attacks.

7. Dear HCMJ, if you wish to save your job, please put 81 with 71 and 87 with 72. Kessel isn't a one-time shot kinda guy. He's a peel-off-the-boards and let it rip or score-on-the-rush kinda guy. What part of that meshes with 87? 87 isn't great on the rush. His strength is peeling off the boards using his frame, and getting pucks on goal. Kessel aint picking up that garbage. That's more in Horny's wheelhouse. The 1 of 10 cross-ice passes he makes that will actually land on Kessels stick will likely go unscored anyway. Sid's powerful goaline game meshes perfectly with 72 and Malkin's rush game and power skating meshes better with Kessel's. Also, 71 will draw more attention away from 81 as teams will have to respect his shot way more than 87's. Need more proof? Think James Neal. He was useless with Sid but perfect with 71. Same thing applies here. If we are to believe the lines in practice today, you all will realize what I already know by about 11PM Saturday evening. Maximize your idiotic investment in Kessel and play him with 71. He'll score 40 if he plays with 71. He'll be lucky to hit 30 with 87.

8. This article proposes trading Horny for another asset. I cannot, in words, articulate how utterly stupid that suggestion is. On a team full of soft players, lets trade one of the lone few who shows up every day, gives a crap, goes balls to the wall, and actually cares. The biggest problem with 72 right now is he's playing with the wrong center. It's horrifying to me that our coach cannot see this. Did anyone watch 71 and 72 play last year? It was a disaster. We've been clamoring for years now about having no wingers. Now, the blogmaster general wants to trade our 2nd best one who possesses a skillset no one else on the friking roster has. Seriously..anyone else want to takeover as the master blogger?? RW says the window has passed on trading Kunitz! Really? I had been saying that for years and you called me an idiot every time. Now you say the window is closed intimating they should have moved him? You were the leader of the keep Kunitz camp with all your charts and graphs telling everyone how he was playing well. Now, you finally realize it.

Enjoy the team most of you wished for. Most of you welcomed Perron with open arms. Most of you welcomed a Kessel trade. And, last but not least, almost all of you wanted Kunitz kept around.

Am I an a-hole? Perhaps. But, I'm also an a-hole who's right way more than I'm wrong

- 87_71_11_29


I can get behind 7 and 8. The rest of it meh. Much easier for negativity to look right in this day in age than positivity...especially after a somewhat negative start.

Only 7 games in. Lets see what it looks like after 20/25 games.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
7 games is a complete playoff series. I think it is time to try something different than continuing to force what they have tried. I have no idea if Malkin/Kessel and Crosby/Hornqvist will be better, but I believe it deserves a look at this point. If this doesn't work, they can try something else or go back.
- jfkst1


Do you believe that more of the problems come from the lack of production from the left side? If Kunitz and Perron were producing even any slim slice of offense, it'd be a different story. I would be interested to see Sprong in a top 6 role... What if you put Sprong with Geno.. and kept Kessel with Sid... dropped Hornqvist to the 3rd line...

Dupuis-Sid-Kessel
Perron-Geno-Sprong
Kunitz-Bonino-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Cullen-Rust
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
You will dismiss this as trolling but having been burned on several Pens bets (they'll finally get it together tonight!) and having 87 on my high-stakes fantasy team, it actually is not the case:

The Penguins are awful; as in not even close to making the playoffs awful. Blue Jacket awful (honestly they looked better in Todd Richards's last game than the Pens did last night). After the way last night's game ended, with that embarrassingly punchless 6-on-3 power play for nearly 2 minutes, I was expecting to wake up to headlines of "Pens Clean House." They remind me of the Devils back in the beginning of 2010-11 when John MacLean was head coach and you'd see the names on the back of the jerseys (at least of the forwards and the goalie) and just assume it was a matter of time before they get together. Then December rolls around and they are something like 7-18-5 and the season's already over.

- Snowblind

Thanks, we'll all be sure to not give a 4hit what you think. So what is the purpose of you even posting this? Just to be a d-bag because your team is getting some bounces and ours isn't. The Pens didn't look that bad, especially at the begining, but they get zero breaks and Fleury lets in a flukey weak one and the air goes out of the tire. This team has 10 new players, they don't have the luxury of having played together for a long time and the guys that have been here for a while are ageing out of the league. It's really no that bad though. I love how people like you arn't on the Ducks board talking 4hit. They are supposed to be the stanley cup winner this year. A lot of teams arn't living up to expectations but we are the only ones super douches like you have the need to come and kick. Maybe it's because 24 of the last 30 years the Penguins wiped their feet on the Islanders. Maybe you're just a giant a-hole. But you definitely should go away.
poopmouth
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.02.2007

Oct 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Okay thats the 11th time with that joke.

The Penguins are 8-19 in their last 27. Thats a trend.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


yeah, but THIS is what the team looked like for the final 18 games of last season.

https://twitter.com/kikke...w=true&cursor=AJAUxd0FIAk


main points...

Lapierre had more ice time than Geno. Scuderi and Lovejoy were 2 and 3 in ice time. Winnik was the 3rd highest forward in ice time.

faulting MJ or even the players for the final 20 games of last season is a lazy analysis, IMO. The guy had FIVE dmen dressed for a lot of that time...
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Do you believe that more of the problems come from the lack of production from the left side? If Kunitz and Perron were producing even any slim slice of offense, it'd be a different story. I would be interested to see Sprong in a top 6 role... What if you put Sprong with Geno.. and kept Kessel with Sid... dropped Hornqvist to the 3rd line...

Dupuis-Sid-Kessel
Perron-Geno-Sprong
Kunitz-Bonino-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Cullen-Rust

- j.boyd919



Why would you drop Horny down? Wtf man?

I'd be a LOT more interested in Sprong being sent down solely to work on becoming a LW, something this team is going to need badly... Perron's last year here, Kunitz and Dupuis old, we need LW, not RWs.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Thanks, we'll all be sure to not give a 4hit what you think. So what is the purpose of you even posting this? Just to be a d-bag because your team is getting some bounces and ours isn't. The Pens didn't look that bad, especially at the begining, but they get zero breaks and Fleury lets in a flukey weak one and the air goes out of the tire. This team has 10 new players, they don't have the luxury of having played together for a long time and the guys that have been here for a while are ageing out of the league. It's really no that bad though. I love how people like you arn't on the Ducks board talking 4hit. They are supposed to be the stanley cup winner this year. A lot of teams arn't living up to expectations but we are the only ones super douches like you have the need to come and kick. Maybe it's because 24 of the last 30 years the Penguins wiped their feet on the Islanders. Maybe you're just a giant a-hole. But you definitely should go away.
- Dcoms


Can't we all just get along?? I think he is trying to provide an outsider's point of view, especially to those who wear the horse blinders, that this team is not just "getting bad bounces". This team is lacking something more than that - will, heart, guts, whatever.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Do you believe that more of the problems come from the lack of production from the left side? If Kunitz and Perron were producing even any slim slice of offense, it'd be a different story. I would be interested to see Sprong in a top 6 role... What if you put Sprong with Geno.. and kept Kessel with Sid... dropped Hornqvist to the 3rd line...

Dupuis-Sid-Kessel
Perron-Geno-Sprong
Kunitz-Bonino-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Cullen-Rust

- j.boyd919

I don't think Dupuis should be in a top 6 role. At his age he's going to burn out and then get injured. We need 6 guys to gel and be consistent. Line juggling is ok at the beginning of the season, especially when there are so many new guys. But they can't be mixing up the lines all season. It just won't work.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
Do you believe that more of the problems come from the lack of production from the left side? If Kunitz and Perron were producing even any slim slice of offense, it'd be a different story. I would be interested to see Sprong in a top 6 role... What if you put Sprong with Geno.. and kept Kessel with Sid... dropped Hornqvist to the 3rd line...

Dupuis-Sid-Kessel
Perron-Geno-Sprong
Kunitz-Bonino-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Cullen-Rust

- j.boyd919


None of the top 6 players have looked nearly good enough. I think the effort has been there the last couple games. Just not sure playing styles are conducive. EDM tried McDavid with Hall and it wasn't working. They changed and McDavid looks great with Yakupov. Maybe that's all the top 6 needs.
Now when it comes to the defense, Scuderi cannot be suiting up. Maatta must play better. Those are two absolutes for the team to be successful and Scuderi falls entirely on Johnston.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
Why would you drop Horny down? Wtf man?

I'd be a LOT more interested in Sprong being sent down solely to work on becoming a LW, something this team is going to need badly... Perron's last year here, Kunitz and Dupuis old, we need LW, not RWs.

- Guile


Because he has 1 point in 7 games and is a -4, no goals on 17 shots. Granted I understand Sprong only has 1 goal, but he had a strong preseason... why not give him a game or 2 on Geno or Sid's line?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
I don't think Dupuis should be in a top 6 role. At his age he's going to burn out and then get injured. We need 6 guys to gel and be consistent. Line juggling is ok at the beginning of the season, especially when there are so many new guys. But they can't be mixing up the lines all season. It just won't work.
- Dcoms



One problem with your not wanting age in the top 6 for Left Wing... That makes Perron the 1st line, and Plot the 2nd line by default. Not that they were any worse than Kunitz, but you locked in those two with that reasoning man.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:22 PM ET
Because he has 1 point in 7 games and is a -4, no goals on 17 shots. Granted I understand Sprong only has 1 goal, but he had a strong preseason... why not give him a game or 2 on Geno or Sid's line?
- j.boyd919



Lot of players that are negative with very little points right now man

I want Sprong converted to Left Wing, its the position we will need next year and really need the year after, right wing we are fine for the top six.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Oct 23 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think we can all agree on trying a few things or a combo of them:

1. Drop Kunitz to the bottom 6
2. Move Hornqvist back to Sid's line, Kessel to Geno's
3. Try either Sprong and or Hornqvist at LW
4. Give Sprong a few top 6 shifts at least
5. Sit Scuds. Call up Clendening
6. Move Maatta with Letang

Side note: Anyone watch any of the baby Pens games? How is DP looking?
usmcaaron
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Oct 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
January 2, 2015

 I predict that the Penguins will re-sign Perron to a contract extension in the neighborhood 5 year 5.25M when the time comes. That would further cement this deal as a success. Perron is currently 26 years old with many more years of quality hockey left. 

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=65308



June 23, 2015

 To me this is a potential situation where you can get a good player like Oshie perhaps for less than you would think. The Ryan Miller trade, David Perron dump off, and Ian Cole swap are all examples of pretty bad trades for St. Louis. There seems to be a correlation from when Jarmo Kekäläinen left (Doug Armstrong hire) and when St. Louis' decisions got worse. Never say never. 

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=69457


October 1, 2015

David Perron is a left winger on a team that is finding out it has forward depth to spare. Perron is a good top six winger. His underlying numbers are solid and I believe his late season slump in 2014-15 could be traced to injury (specifically broken ribs). I believe that David Perron should be the front runner for the left wing spot on Sidney Crosby's line at the present moment. However, with that said he is still a movable part for the Penguins.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=71327


October 23, 2015

Chris Kunitz, David Perron, Sergei Plotnikov, Bobby Farnham, and Kevin Porter is a whole lot of 'blah'. 


Man, talk about a change in perspective. How's that heavy dose of reality workin out for ya on the David Perron front?
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