I've never read anyone claim that. Everyone that wanted to trade Letang justifies it due to his lack of durability. Too late to trade him now any way. He had to be traded before his extension.
- jfkst1

We should not trade Hörnqvist nor Letang. We should've done our homework in the offseason by trading the old guys (Kunitz/Scuderi or Dupuis) and signing a top 4 d-man.

The Ehrhoff signing with LA hurts. Very nice deal and someone we could be using right now.

We should not trade Hörnqvist nor Letang. We should've done our homework in the offseason by trading the old guys (Kunitz/Scuderi or Dupuis) and signing a top 4 d-man.

The Ehrhoff signing with LA hurts. Very nice deal and someone we could be using right now.
- Barnaby36

They should trade Hornqvist if they can get a LW version of him (whether it be a straight up trade, or two separate trades).

Dupuis is not a problem. He plays young and is still good. Plus he was probably untradable this offseason. You know. Blood clot and all.

I'm sure trading Kunitz and Scuderi is easier said than done.

But i totally agree on Ehrhoff. someone like him is exactly what they need. Especially for that cap hit. Hopefully DP gets his game right, comes up soon, and makes it all moot.

They should trade Hornqvist if they can get a LW version of him (whether it be a straight up trade, or two separate trades).

Dupuis is not a problem. He plays young and is still good. Plus he was probably untradable this offseason. You know. Blood clot and all.

I'm sure trading Kunitz and Scuderi is easier said than done.

But i totally agree on Ehrhoff. someone like him is exactly what they need. Especially for that cap hit. Hopefully DP gets his game right, comes up soon, and makes it all moot.
- poopmouth

I'm not advocating for trading Dupuis but I'm sure everyone would be much happier having Franson than him on outr team right now. Off course I'd try to unload Scuderi and Kunitz before him, NO DOUBT. The only reason I mentioned Dupuis was for cap reasons.

Yes, Ehrhoff would've been nice. Management (frank)ed up there.

They should trade Hornqvist if they can get a LW version of him (whether it be a straight up trade, or two separate trades).

Dupuis is not a problem. He plays young and is still good. Plus he was probably untradable this offseason. You know. Blood clot and all.

I'm sure trading Kunitz and Scuderi is easier said than done.

But i totally agree on Ehrhoff. someone like him is exactly what they need. Especially for that cap hit. Hopefully DP gets his game right, comes up soon, and makes it all moot.
- poopmouth

Considering dunes will be 36 soon and hasn't put together a full season in 3 yrs and that one was a lockout yr, I don't think he will hold up well in a top 6 role.

I don't think the RW spot is the reason 71,87, and 81 can't score.

The cap hit makes the difference. All things being equal I take Letang, but I am biased.
- Thunderbolt

Letang is a great player, for approximately 45 games a season.

You are all such pessimists. Or was it Debbie Downers?

Who could have seen this coming? I mean, really. And I was so excited - weren't all of you, too? Dang it! I hate it when the painfully obvious becomes reality...

I'm not advocating for trading Dupuis but I'm sure everyone would be much happier having Franson than him on outr team right now. Off course I'd try to unload Scuderi and Kunitz before him, NO DOUBT. The only reason I mentioned Dupuis was for cap reasons.

Yes, Ehrhoff would've been nice. Management (frank)ed up there.
- Barnaby36

yeah franson's another one

You are all such pessimists. Or was it Debbie Downers?

Who could have seen this coming? I mean, really. And I was so excited - weren't all of you, too? Dang it! I hate it when the painfully obvious becomes reality...
- thevelvetfog1

It was very clear that the Penguins' issues revolved around their defense.

They have lost 2 quality defensemen in the last 2 years in Orpik and Martin, and are replacing them with young, inexperienced defensemen that aren't ready yet for the NHL.

While the trade for Kessel by itself is a clear win for the Penguins, it was a move that didn't necessarily address the team's weaknesses. I know you guys have wanted a talented winger for Crosby for years now, and this trade addressed that "need", but with the production Crosby was able to get out of Kunitz, Hornqvist, etc., Kessel is superfluous.

It's only my opinion which shouldn't mean too much to you. I'm not saying Yandle is a bad player, I'm commenting on the conditions of the trade & the outcome to date. I think he was supposed to push you guys over the edge to a winning cup team, but that didn't happen. Your team at the moment & from what I can tell at the moment isn't as good as 2 years ago & not as good as last years hence my opinion on you not winning. Based on that paying 2 players & a first is steep unless you can trade for something or resign to 'strengthen' the team moving forward - but again to resign him you look to lose players for cap reasons, & in doing so possibly weakening the team further unless you can get some beneficial hockey trades - I said after last season on your thread Nash could be a positive trade for you guys to make.

The conditions of your trade cannot change. The results can & that what we judge to date - that's no reflection on the player.
- Aussiepenguin

It is my understanding that you do not even watch hockey games. You only listen to Penguins games on the radio, and look at the box score on NHL.com. Therefore, I do not think you are qualified to have a relevant opinion regarding anything outside maybe the Penguins, but even that is a stretch.

It was very clear that the Penguins' issues revolved around their defense.

They have lost 2 quality defensemen in the last 2 years in Orpik and Martin, and are replacing them with young, inexperienced defensemen that aren't ready yet for the NHL.

While the trade for Kessel by itself is a clear win for the Penguins, it was a move that didn't necessarily address the team's weaknesses. I know you guys have wanted a talented winger for Crosby for years now, and this trade addressed that "need", but with the production Crosby was able to get out of Kunitz, Hornqvist, etc., Kessel is superfluous.
- rangerdanger94

I agree with this. Ph was a good f for 87. They didn't need Kessel, they needed 2 more hour quest level players. It was pretty obvious DP wasn't ready and they should have kept ehroff.

Considering dunes will be 36 soon and hasn't put together a full season in 3 yrs and that one was a lockout yr, I don't think he will hold up well in a top 6 role.

I don't think the RW spot is the reason 71,87, and 81 can't score.
- sammy87

well yeah. Ryan wasn't saying 'trade hornqvist because he is the problem.' The point was that the team has RW depth and the LW depth has looked bad.

I don't think he stressed enough that if they do trade Hornqvist, they would have to get a LW who is a lot like him.

Every time you look at the lines and think "man. if only Hornqvist could play LW." they you're *actually* agreeing with this article.

nobody is suggesting they lose a trade on purpose just for the sake of making a trade. It would obviously have to be a fair trade.

well yeah. Ryan wasn't saying 'trade hornqvist because he is the problem.' The point was that the team has RW depth and the LW depth has looked bad.

I don't think he stressed enough that if they do trade Hornqvist, they would have to get a LW who is a lot like him.

Every time you look at the lines and think "man. if only Hornqvist could play LW." they you're *actually* agreeing with this article.

nobody is suggesting they lose a trade on purpose just for the sake of making a trade. It would obviously have to be a fair trade.
- poopmouth

If you trade a RW for a LW, I give it a month before you guys are posting about how you're thin on RW all of a sudden, and you will be coming up with trades to acquire a RW.

It was very clear that the Penguins' issues revolved around their defense.

They have lost 2 quality defensemen in the last 2 years in Orpik and Martin, and are replacing them with young, inexperienced defensemen that aren't ready yet for the NHL.

While the trade for Kessel by itself is a clear win for the Penguins, it was a move that didn't necessarily address the team's weaknesses. I know you guys have wanted a talented winger for Crosby for years now, and this trade addressed that "need", but with the production Crosby was able to get out of Kunitz, Hornqvist, etc., Kessel is superfluous.
- rangerdanger94

I was being facetious. I pointed out several problems with this team going into this season, one of which being the glaring issue on defense, and got personally attacked for it.

The others I listed were the complete lack of heart, soul, grit, toughness (both mental and physical), etc.

And this 4 scoring lines nonsense. Kunitz is old and is in deep decline and is done as a hockey player. I have been saying this for a while now.

Dupuis is old and you can't expect anything from him. I love him as a player and a person, but get real.

Perron tries but he is weak.

Plot was a big unknown so he should have never been penciled into the 2nd line or taken as a given that his game would translate to the NHL. Still too early to tell but pump the brakes already.

Bonino is an average player and a slow skater. Taken as a whole, Sutter is probably a better player. But the Pens were complete idiots to play Sutter at center.

Cullen is a 39 year old below average space filler. Why?

Speaking of why, why Gonchar and Testito on PTOs? Completely moronic.

Crosby and Malkin are weak-minded non-leaders who give effort when they feel like it. Together they are an infectious cancer on this team.

So what are you left with? Real hockey players like Hornqvist. So what's Ryan Wilson's solution? Trade Horny! Of course. And not only trade him, but trade him for a little rat bastard on the decline. Genius! I swear it gets stupider and stupider in this forum and on this site every day. Just complete idiocy.

If you trade a RW for a LW, I give it a month before you guys are posting about how you're thin on RW all of a sudden, and you will be coming up with trades to acquire a RW.
- rangerdanger94

lol youre probably right. I really don't see that happening with kessel, fehr, sprong, bennett all with enough talent to play top 6 RW roles, and Duper's ability to play that side if need be. But still. You're probably right haha.

As long as the team looks like it'll make the playoffs, it's probably just best to wait till the deadline to assess the team's needs.

If they slip out of the playoff picture by game 25 or so, then making a move for... say... a LW... by sacrificing...say... RW depth, while risking later RW issues... might be the right way to go.