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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 23 @ 10:51 PM ET
Who do you replace MJ with? Nobody wanted to coach here thats why we got stuck with him. MT, DB, MJ 3 coaches this core ahs quit on.
- sammy87


There wasn't a ton of options out there with experienced guys. Yes a couple of AHL coaches turned them down, but that's because of some pretty tough stipulations. They were only offering a 2 year deal. They were forcing the next coach take Tochett as an assistant.

Also... Let's face it, the specter of the soon to be FA Babcock was also on the horizon.

I said when they dumped Bylsma, they needed an experienced guy that would not be afraid to kick a little ass. Somebody needs to light a fire under this team or they might as well start making drastic personnel moves, because too many nights this team looks gutless and uninspired.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
There wasn't a ton of options out there with experienced guys. Yes a couple of AHL coaches turned them down, but that's because of some pretty tough stipulations. They were only offering a 2 year deal. They were forcing the next coach take Tochett as an assistant.

Also... Let's face it, the specter of the soon to be FA Babcock was also on the horizon.

I said when they dumped Bylsma, they needed an experienced guy that would not be afraid to kick a little ass. Somebody needs to light a fire under this team or they might as well start making drastic personnel moves, because too many nights this team looks gutless and uninspired.

- madmike71


Let's face it ... I think a few guys would have been interested, if Bylsma would have been canned when Shero got canned. The garbage that management did ... firing Shero; keeping Bylsma in limbo (supposedly the next GM's call, which it wasn't) probably tend people off. It would have turned me off.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 24 @ 12:04 AM ET
Who do you replace MJ with? Nobody wanted to coach here thats why we got stuck with him. MT, DB, MJ 3 coaches this core ahs quit on.
- sammy87


Thats what I was saying before....I'm at the point that I want MJ gone but there has to be a coach in mind, available, and willing to accept the job.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 24 @ 12:34 AM ET
Let's face it ... I think a few guys would have been interested, if Bylsma would have been canned when Shero got canned. The garbage that management did ... firing Shero; keeping Bylsma in limbo (supposedly the next GM's call, which it wasn't) probably tend people off. It would have turned me off.
- Oneonta Penguin


Yep. Throw that on to the pile. Crappy way to handle that situation. The team hasn't been run right since Ken Sawyer left.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 12:56 AM ET
Every day I hope you get hit by a bus and every day you have another stupid comment that has nothing to do with you or your stupid team. Maatta has not regressed. He's stuck carrying Scuderi around the whole game and it's wearing him out. If only McDonaugh would call him and tell him how he does it since Scuderi is an older but more talented version of Girardi.
- Dcoms


Maatta has definitely regressed... And I'm a huge maatta fan.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Oct 24 @ 3:09 AM ET
So WBS won its 5th game in a row thanks to another Matthew Murray shutout. Apparently in 5 games against Springfield for his career he's shut them out 4 times and has a .994 save percentage against them. WBS is really hot right now and it's thanks to Murray, Pouliot, Sheary, Wilson, Sundquist and Dom Simon and everyone of those forwards should be in the NHL over Kevin F'ING Porter. LET THE KIDS PLAY MIKE!!!!!!!!!!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 24 @ 6:03 AM ET
January 2, 2015




June 23, 2015



October 1, 2015



October 23, 2015



Man, talk about a change in perspective. How's that heavy dose of reality workin out for ya on the David Perron front?

- usmcaaron


Seriously, you spend too much time on this!
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Oct 24 @ 7:40 AM ET
why not let Jacques martin coach. he is in the orginaisation anyway.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Oct 24 @ 8:10 AM ET

Honestly, I was surprised as anyone that HCMJ was kept after last season. He does not seem to grasp how to combine and choose players effectively. He does not seem to be a problem solver. He seems intellectually capable. When we play poorly with lousy effort he seems to understand. Yet the very next game he picks the same dumb lines and personnel.
Take Dallas, a very speedy team. Why would you play your slowest defense-man, Skuds? Why if your forwards are not getting the puck effectively in stride would you not try DP who does that effectively?
These are just a few of many questionable decisions that are almost laughably numerous.
I am no fan of HCMJ. He is dumb. Acts smart, sounds smart but it's a ruse. He is just dumb.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:17 AM ET
Honestly, I was surprised as anyone that HCMJ was kept after last season. He does not seem to grasp how to combine and choose players effectively. He does not seem to be a problem solver. He seems intellectually capable. When we play poorly with lousy effort he seems to understand. Yet the very next game he picks the same dumb lines and personnel.
Take Dallas, a very speedy team. Why would you play your slowest defense-man, Skuds? Why if your forwards are not getting the puck effectively in stride would you not try DP who does that effectively?
These are just a few of many questionable decisions that are almost laughably numerous.
I am no fan of HCMJ. He is dumb. Acts smart, sounds smart but it's a ruse. He is just dumb.

- powerhouse


Well..................when the coach doesn't want to talk about scoring but wants 'more scoring chances' from certain lines??????????

That is straight out of the Analytical little black book! Unfortunately 'scoring chances' do not - I repeat, DO NOT win games. SCORING wins games!! I think MJ should stay away from his stats guru & get back on the coaching 1 x 1 handbook - score (frank)ing goals & shove your 'scoring chances' up your arse!
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:32 AM ET
Let's face it ... I think a few guys would have been interested, if Bylsma would have been canned when Shero got canned. The garbage that management did ... firing Shero; keeping Bylsma in limbo (supposedly the next GM's call, which it wasn't) probably tend people off. It would have turned me off.
- Oneonta Penguin


Dan Bylsma was "fired" the second the final buzzer sounded in the Ranger series, everybody in the hockey world knew it. The reason we got Johnston was due to the fact he was the only guy who accepted the idea of hiring Tocchet. That is on upper management and specifically Mario. I don't like it anymore than anyone else but let's not pretend Bylsma was kept in limbo.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Oct 24 @ 8:47 AM ET
Im not seeing the part where the coachd is the biggest problem. Trading Hornqvist is a mistake.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Oct 24 @ 8:48 AM ET
If the pens trade hornqvist for any type of defensive help, they will be worse. He's the only forward in the top 6 who gives it his all every shift. Even though he onl has 1 point, he contributes a hell of a lot more in other ways. You definitely look to trade Kunitz and Perron first. Let Horn play a game with Sid first.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:53 AM ET
Im not seeing the part where the coachd is the biggest problem. Trading Hornqvist is a mistake.
- Grinder47


Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 24 @ 8:57 AM ET
If the pens trade hornqvist for any type of defensive help, they will be worse. He's the only forward in the top 6 who gives it his all every shift. Even though he onl has 1 point, he contributes a hell of a lot more in other ways. You definitely look to trade Kunitz and Perron first. Let Horn play a game with Sid first.
- drummer829


I actually asked the question preseason - what could we get for Horny. Now I'm not advocating trading him, but trading high is smart business, at the moment every Pen is damaged goods & not valued high enough to consider trading. But down the road, with Philbo locked in & DTM a 'possible' top 6 RW, there are options that should be considered.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 24 @ 8:58 AM ET
Yeah and the Rangers need to avoid trades at all costs because they get destroyed every time. Who would trade Duclair and a first for Yandle today? Not even Yandle put his hand up.
- Dcoms

Would you trade Duclair and a 1st for Letang?

Because Letang and Yandle are essentially the same players.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Oct 24 @ 9:00 AM ET
Im not seeing the part where the coachd is the biggest problem. Trading Hornqvist is a mistake.
- Grinder47



i with you. this site is hilarious. someone brings up its the coaches fault. next thing you know everyone in here is like...."I been saying that for years" "yeah off with his head"

our biggest problem is scuderi. he cannot move the puck up to the forwards. when he gets the puck in the offensive zone its a low skilled dump to the corner.

couple that with injuries constantly keeping everyone from forming any chemistry....here we are.

anyways i just woke up in Nashville. they better not suck tonight. obviously hoping for a win but as long as we dont play like we did against dallas last go round i will be happy.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Oct 24 @ 9:00 AM ET
Yeah and the Rangers need to avoid trades at all costs because they get destroyed every time. Who would trade Duclair and a first for Yandle today? Not even Yandle put his hand up.
- Dcoms



Like in the Oscar Lindberg Ethan Werek deal in 2011? The Gomez to Montreal deal in 2009 that got them McDonagh? The Rick Nash deal in 2012? The Klein for Del Zotto deal in 2014? The Gaborik to Columbus deal in which they got the more effective and younger player out of the trade in Brassard?

Yes the Callahan-St. Louis deal looks bad now only because they didn't win a cup while St. Louis was here and Callahan will be playing in Tampa a lot longer. But those extra picks they acquired turned into trade downs and those second round picks aren't guaranteed to be anything.

As far as the Yandle deal is concerned, Duclair looks great at the start but his career is barely 30 games old. Yandle, meanwhile, is one of the ten best offensive defensemen in the game today and still in his prime. Hard to say that trade was a bad one for either side.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Oct 24 @ 9:01 AM ET
If Crosby would be the first NHLer since 2010 to use a wooden stick he might have like 4 goals right now. Parents of hockey players everyshere would love him and he could take a one timer without his junk stick snapping in half.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Oct 24 @ 9:02 AM ET
Would you trade Duclair and a 1st for Letang?

Because Letang and Yandle are essentially the same players.

- rangerdanger94



i would not. and letang and yandle arent even close. letang is miles ahead.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Oct 24 @ 9:13 AM ET
i with you. this site is hilarious. someone brings up its the coaches fault. next thing you know everyone in here is like...."I been saying that for years" "yeah off with his head"

our biggest problem is scuderi. he cannot move the puck up to the forwards. when he gets the puck in the offensive zone its a low skilled dump to the corner.

couple that with injuries constantly keeping everyone from forming any chemistry....here we are.

anyways i just woke up in Nashville. they better not suck tonight. obviously hoping for a win but as long as we dont play like we did against dallas last go round i will be happy.

- pensfan024

I just woke up in VA. On my belated honeymoon in the blue ridge mountains. My cabin gets every sports game ever though so im all set.
Francois Leroux
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: New Castle, DE
Joined: 07.10.2009

Oct 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
On this team (better fit)... Neal > Horny. I said this last year and people scoffed at me.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Oct 24 @ 9:14 AM ET
i like the new look except......i would switch Plot and Sprong

Dupuis-Crosby-Hornqvist

Plotnikov-Malkin-Kessel

Kunitz-Bonino-Sprong
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Oct 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
I just woke up in VA. On my belated honeymoon in the blue ridge mountains. My cabin gets every sports game ever though so im all set.
- Grinder47



where abouts in the blue ridge mountains?

this is funny cause my wife and i left the blue ridge mnts to honeymoon in pittsburgh for a penguins game....made a sign that read- "we came to watch sid and malkin on our honeymoon" got on national TV. this was like 4 years ago feels like 20
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 24 @ 9:19 AM ET
i would not. and letang and yandle arent even close. letang is miles ahead.
- pensfan024

I'd rather have Yandle at his 2.6M cap hit over Letang and his durability issues.
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