Boyle was a -3, in a 3-0 loss, just awful
- jimbro83

I really wouldn't mind if I never see him play another shift in a Rangers uniform.

Losses like these are tough because you know what happens? Vigneault changes the lineup around and gets his boy back in the mix.

I haven't watched an entire game, aside form the season opener, but from the little I watched last night it was obvious the Rangers weren't scoring.

Nash and Kreider are their supposed best two finishers and they have no goals through five games.

Brassard is embarrassing out there, Stepan not much better and Hayes looked lost on the wing.

Time to mix and match the lineup but hopefully with the same mix of forwards that started last night.

Defensively, have to get McIlrath back in there.

I really wouldn't mind if I never see him play another shift in a Rangers uniform.

Losses like these are tough because you know what happens? Vigneault changes the lineup around and gets his boy back in the mix.

I haven't watched an entire game, aside form the season opener, but from the little I watched last night it was obvious the Rangers weren't scoring.

Nash and Kreider are their supposed best two finishers and they have no goals through five games.

Brassard is embarrassing out there, Stepan not much better and Hayes looked lost on the wing.

Time to mix and match the lineup but hopefully with the same mix of forwards that started last night.

Defensively, have to get McIlrath back in there.
- MidnightMarauder

the 5 on 3 it looked like they were desperately trying to setup Stepan to take the shot

He should be the one setting guys up for the shot in that situation

just absolutely irritating all around

I really wouldn't mind if I never see him play another shift in a Rangers uniform.

Losses like these are tough because you know what happens? Vigneault changes the lineup around and gets his boy back in the mix.

I haven't watched an entire game, aside form the season opener, but from the little I watched last night it was obvious the Rangers weren't scoring.

Nash and Kreider are their supposed best two finishers and they have no goals through five games.

Brassard is embarrassing out there, Stepan not much better and Hayes looked lost on the wing.

Time to mix and match the lineup but hopefully with the same mix of forwards that started last night.

Defensively, have to get McIlrath back in there.
- MidnightMarauder

What ever sports psychologist Kreider saw in the summer, I think they changed him into a non hitting pussie.

the 5 on 3 it looked like they were desperately trying to setup Stepan to take the shot

He should be the one setting guys up for the shot in that situation

just absolutely irritating all around
- jimbro83

I said that to my gf before it even started. I said I guarantee they are just going to pass it around and wait to give Stepan the shot from the dot. Like everything Arniel has done on special teams since he got here "predictable".

Defensively, have to get McIlrath back in there.
- MidnightMarauder

Did not expect anyone on this forum to be saying that.

the 5 on 3 it looked like they were desperately trying to setup Stepan to take the shot

He should be the one setting guys up for the shot in that situation

just absolutely irritating all around
- jimbro83

Yea I didn't understand setting up Stepan for one timers

And how do they have 1:43 of 5 on 3 and Nash doesn't touch the ice. He is the best offensive player on the team. I don't care if Arniel runs the powerplay, AV needs to override him there

Did not expect anyone on this forum to be saying that.
- MatzCT

It's a new day, now clap your hands and say...New Day Rocks.

What ever sports psychologist Kreider saw in the summer, I think they changed him into a non hitting pussie.
- mdw7413

His 0 penalty mins are screwing up my fantasy team. I expected a few game misconducts by this point

the 5 on 3 it looked like they were desperately trying to setup Stepan to take the shot

He should be the one setting guys up for the shot in that situation

just absolutely irritating all around
- jimbro83

Thankfully I missed that unsurprisingly failed 5 on 3 power play disadvantage. If Stepan is your trigger man Houston you have a big @ss problem.

What ever sports psychologist Kreider saw in the summer, I think they changed him into a non hitting pussie.
- mdw7413

Kreider has a sh!t season we need not worry about him breaking the bank this summer. How could he validate getting over four million per if he doesn't even score 20 goals this season?

Kreider's development is a big key to the year. If he doesn't, the team will be middle of the pack at best.

Did not expect anyone on this forum to be saying that.
- MatzCT

He gets credit for the work he has done to be a better player. The problem for most was it wasn't a good pick at the time, and how long it has taken him to just be on the roster. But I also agree, he should be in the line up. Have no idea why he was benched again after only playing a few minutes because of all the penalties against the Jets. I thought he looked good against the Jets.

His 0 penalty mins are screwing up my fantasy team. I expected a few game misconducts by this point
- TPC

Yea I didn't understand setting up Stepan for one timers

And how do they have 1:43 of 5 on 3 and Nash doesn't touch the ice. He is the best offensive player on the team. I don't care if Arniel runs the powerplay, AV needs to override him there
- TPC

Power play is really the bottom of the barrel and has been a problem, for the Rangers organization, ever since Jagr left.

Nobody shoots and if Nash is not on the power play that is on the coaching staff. Vigneault should have final say on the player personnel, for any situation, and if he is in agreement with Arniel, on Nash not being out there, he needs to pull his head out of his stinkhole.

Power play is really the bottom of the barrel and has been a problem, for the Rangers organization, ever since Jagr left.

Nobody shoots and if Nash is not on the power play that is on the coaching staff. Vigneault should have final say on the player personnel, for any situation, and if he is in agreement with Arniel, on Nash not being out there, he needs to pull his head out of his stinkhole.
- MidnightMarauder

Its just bad. The defense doesn't even pay attention to Yandle cause they know he won't shoot the puck. Everyone just collapses down low so there is no room. If Yandle would actually shoot the puck maybe more space would open up

He gets credit for the work he has done to be a better player. The problem for most was it wasn't a good pick at the time, and how long it has taken him to just be on the roster. But I also agree, he should be in the line up. Have no idea why he was benched again after only playing a few minutes because of all the penalties against the Jets. I thought he looked good against the Jets.
- mdw7413

Boyle and Girardi warrant being benched. Staal looks so so out there but nothing that deserves him being scratched out of the lineup.

Yandle, Klein and McDonagh look decent, if not spectacular, but Boyle and Girardi just look god f*cking awful out there.

Kreider has a sh!t season we need not worry about him breaking the bank this summer. How could he validate getting over four million per if he doesn't even score 20 goals this season?

Kreider's development is a big key to the year. If he doesn't, the team will be middle of the pack at best.
- MidnightMarauder

Heres the thing with Kreider. If he isn't going to score, then cause havoc on the ice. One of the best game I saw him play last year was in the playoffs vs Tampa. He had like 10 hits in the 1st period a couple of them devastating, and multiple scoring chances. When he engages physically his all around game gets better. I'm getting tired of the wallflower Kreider.

Heres the thing with Kreider. If he isn't going to score, then cause havoc on the ice. One of the best game I saw him play last year was in the playoffs vs Tampa. He had like 10 hits in the 1st period a couple of them devastating, and multiple scoring chances. When he engages physically his all around game gets better. I'm getting tired of the wallflower Kreider.
- mdw7413

The Kreider of last year would have put Price 3 rows deep during that hit. Not turtle and take it bending over lol

Boyle and Girardi warrant being benched. Staal looks so so out there but nothing that deserves him being scratched out of the lineup.

Yandle, Klein and McDonagh look decent, if not spectacular, but Boyle and Girardi just look god f*cking awful out there.
- MidnightMarauder

Girardi has had awful starts the last few seasons. So I'm willing to give him a longer leash. Boyle just looks straight up done.

Heres the thing with Kreider. If he isn't going to score, then cause havoc on the ice. One of the best game I saw him play last year was in the playoffs vs Tampa. He had like 10 hits in the 1st period a couple of them devastating, and multiple scoring chances. When he engages physically his all around game gets better. I'm getting tired of the wallflower Kreider.
- mdw7413

Its just bad. The defense doesn't even pay attention to Yandle cause they know he won't shoot the puck. Everyone just collapses down low so there is no room. If Yandle would actually shoot the puck maybe more space would open up
- TPC

That's always the key to any successful man advantage unit: a big time shot from the point.

Rangers don't have one or at least one that thinks shoot first. Yandle, McDonagh, Klein and even the hideous Boyle can actually all shoot the puck fairly well. Come power play time everyone defers to the setup at the goalline. It doesn't work especially when it's all you do. Teams study traits and the Rangers never mix it up. It's always win the draw, if they even do that, get the puck to the point, throw it to the half wall and then set it up to where the goalline becomes the main point of attack.

Not having Nash out there really makes no sense.

The Kreider of last year would have put Price 3 rows deep during that hit. Not turtle and take it bending over lol
- TPC

Exactly, same with Subban crosscheck to the back of the head, and then the 3 punches. Have some balls man!

And you know me Matt, before Hayes came along, Kreider was also my boy, but its getting difficult to defend him, and it sucks, because we all know how good of a player he could be.

- eichiefs9

Whos going to have a worse year, Kreider or KO?

Heres the thing with Kreider. If he isn't going to score, then cause havoc on the ice. One of the best game I saw him play last year was in the playoffs vs Tampa. He had like 10 hits in the 1st period a couple of them devastating, and multiple scoring chances. When he engages physically his all around game gets better. I'm getting tired of the wallflower Kreider.
- mdw7413

That makes all of us.

Kreider just looks like he is not all there. That can be a good thing when he is focused on the task at hand because he is a physical beast when on his game. But when he is not the guy floats around all night without any sort of purpose out there.

Exactly, same with Subban crosscheck to the back of the head, and then the 3 punches. Have some balls man!

And you know me Matt, before Hayes came along, Kreider was also my boy, but its getting difficult to defend him, and it sucks, because we all know how good of a player he could be.
- mdw7413

It's almost like he is afraid to take penalties now. I would rather lose with him just going beast mode lol

Exactly, same with Subban crosscheck to the back of the head, and then the 3 punches. Have some balls man!

And you know me Matt, before Hayes came along, Kreider was also my boy, but its getting difficult to defend him, and it sucks, because we all know how good of a player he could be.
- mdw7413

I was ashamed to be a Rangers fan when Price knocked Kreider down last night.

The level of embarrassment couldn't quite be explained with just words alone.