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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
I'd do it for Sanheim, not Provorov. Because flavor of the month.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, I hear ya, but Trouba is a sure fire top pair guy. As much as I love both Provorov and Sanheim, they are not.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
Prospects are unknowns. Most of ours won't turn into what we hope they will. Sanheim is someone with a very high ceiling but will take quite some time to have an NHL impact for a franchise that is close but already has a log jam he'd be a guy that would allow them to reshuffle some the cards in a few years. Trouba would be our leader and top guy. He'd grow with the rest the prospects but would ramp up our defensive rebuild. I'd say he's worth every penny if we can get out of giving a first rounder
- Tfaehner


I think a 1st (top-3/top-5 protected) would have to go in the deal.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:47 AM ET
Pretty much what I figured.
- BiggE



They did not go to the Chicago game at the capitals rather he went to islanders game last night. You would figure if he was scouting them he would of done a follow up game the next night. Especially since nobody in there top 6 is available and chicago played the bottom 6 very little
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
I think a 1st (top-3/top-5 protected) would have to go in the deal.
- jmatchett383


This is what I'd offer:
2016 1st (top 3 protected), if we pick top 3, they get our next non top 3 1st
Sanheim
Simmonds
Aube-Kubel

If that's not enough, I'd upgrade Aube-Kubel to Konecny

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
Yeah, I hear ya, but Trouba is a sure fire top pair guy. As much as I love both Provorov and Sanheim, they are not.
- BiggE


But they might be
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
I'd be willing to the deal that I figured the Jets would want, provided the 2016 pick was top 3 protected. I think Trouba is worth a lot, but I'm not going to risk the slim chance of losing a shot at Matthews in the deal.
- BiggE


Yeah that's fair, I guess.

To be honest, I have never been good at hypothetical trades. It's always skewed one way or another.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
They did not go to the Chicago game at the capitals rather he went to islanders game last night. You would figure if he was scouting them he would of done a follow up game the next night. Especially since nobody in there top 6 is available and chicago played the bottom 6 very little
- Tfaehner


Yeah who knows, this early in the season, they may just be scouting teams in general. Ek's "rumors", to me, seem more like wild guesses and speculation most of the time.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
This is what I'd offer:
2016 1st (top 3 protected), if we pick top 3, they get our next non top 3 1st
Sanheim
Simmonds
Aube-Kubel

If that's not enough, I'd upgrade Aube-Kubel to Konecny

- BiggE


I wouldn't want to trade 2 prospects and simmonds for one player. Especially when it's not a player that once you have them, puts you over the top.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
But they might be
- funmaster18


True
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:50 AM ET
True
- BiggE


I bring a lot to the table in these discussions
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:50 AM ET
This is what I'd offer:
2016 1st (top 3 protected), if we pick top 3, they get our next non top 3 1st
Sanheim
Simmonds
Aube-Kubel

If that's not enough, I'd upgrade Aube-Kubel to Konecny

- BiggE


OR just an unprotected 2017 1st rounder. You would have to hope by than our franchise would be a comfortable playoff team. It would be 3 full years of hextall.

I wouldn't trade konecky. I'd hope that either a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder could be in there instead. Or even raffl or matt read.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
Speeeeeeeed

I remember watching him a couple of times when i was following the London Knights because of Stolarz. They had Domi, Bo Horvat, and Mitch Marner all together on that team

- Yosimar89


They had Maata and Zadorov for a year too
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:52 AM ET
This is what I'd offer:
2016 1st (top 3 protected), if we pick top 3, they get our next non top 3 1st
Sanheim
Simmonds
Aube-Kubel

If that's not enough, I'd upgrade Aube-Kubel to Konecny

- BiggE


It would be hard for me to give up Konecny on top off all of that.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:52 AM ET
Yeah who knows, this early in the season, they may just be scouting teams in general. Ek's "rumors", to me, seem more like wild guesses and speculation most of the time.
- BiggE


I in no way believe anything like this is imminent. I'm just adamant that at some point hextall will make a trade for a young impact nhl player. Trouba has been a player I've long coveted. So naturally when Winnipeg comes up I go for him
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
I bring a lot to the table in these discussions
- funmaster18


Your words are few, but deep.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
It would be hard for me to give up Konecny on top off all of that.
- VladDrag


Yeah, it would, but the Jets have no real reason to be moving Trouba. To get him, like I said earlier, you would have to massively overpay.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:55 AM ET
OR just an unprotected 2017 1st rounder. You would have to hope by than our franchise would be a comfortable playoff team. It would be 3 full years of hextall.

I wouldn't trade konecky. I'd hope that either a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder could be in there instead. Or even raffl or matt read.

- Tfaehner


I wouldn't want to give up 2 roster forwards with the weak middle 6 we have right now. That would certainly be a scary sight.

But then again, I'm looking at it for this year, not the next 3+ years, which this trade would be geared towards.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:57 AM ET
Your words are few, but deep.
- BiggE


ty sir. play & drink on!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
I was to young to remember that....but that is terrible
- YuenglingJagr


Lesson: don't drink and drive
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
Yeah, it would, but the Jets have no real reason to be moving Trouba. To get him, like I said earlier, you would have to massively overpay.
- BiggE


Oh, for sure. It makes sense from the Jets standpoint. This is why I don't think the Flyers would make this trade. I don't know if I would be opposed to it, I would have to see the actual deal.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
Oh, for sure. It makes sense from the Jets standpoint. This is why I don't think the Flyers would make this trade. I don't know if I would be opposed to it, I would have to see the actual deal.
- VladDrag


Yeah, if I'm Chevy, I'm insisting on Provorov, Konecny, Simmonds and the 2016 1st. Like I said, he has no reason to want to move Trouba.

Face it, this deal ain't happening.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
Oh, for sure. It makes sense from the Jets standpoint. This is why I don't think the Flyers would make this trade. I don't know if I would be opposed to it, I would have to see the actual deal.
- VladDrag


It's like this. How often do you get a 21 year old 6'3 210 lb right handed defenseman who is both agile and physical? It'd cost a lot but it would certainly be worth iit if we could move players who are not core members.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 16 @ 9:02 AM ET
Lets keep in mind that Chevy is notoriously scared to pull the trigger on just about anything. Kane deal aside the Jets just dont make trades. They develop from within and with the prospects they have they, there isn't much of a reason to be dealing with us.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 16 @ 9:02 AM ET
would Hexy dare to trade Mason in a package
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:04 AM ET
would Hexy dare to trade Mason in a package
- vejim


Would have to be a great return but it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
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