that's just it...im not sure that's the case. thorton, seguin, and a few other big time players have been traded for decent hockey trades. what would the pens be asking for malkin?
- munky123

Any D men you move for Malkin would create a whole in our blue line, so what's the point?

I understand people have confidence in Price, but they're trying to rely on him less, not more.

That is whats wrong with the team? I doubt its the only reason. All I'm saying is the logic is actually pretty strong on why to do it.

Also if the 2nd pk unit is against Geno thats an advantage to.
- Zac_O

I'd say the biggest problem with the team is poor lineup decisions by Johnston. Which is my biggest concern going forward. The split PP idea is one of the byproducts of those personnel decisions.

Sheep. Keep believing everything you are told. 9/11 was legit dude!
- cesareborgia

And we have the comment that will get this troll banned. Didn't take long. Sad really, he's more positive about the pens than some actual pens fans on this site.

The same Leaf "fans" that toss jerseys onto the ice and crucify any quality player on the team. Your franchise makes the Flyers look relevant and they haven't won a SC in 41 years.
- jfkst1

Go ahead and accuse an entire fanbase because of 2 people who threw jerseys... That's smart

And crucify who? Kessel? Haha the most heartless, gutless panzy in the NHL? That's rich.

Go ahead and accuse an entire fanbase because of 2 people who threw jerseys... That's smart

And crucify who? Kessel? Haha the most heartless, gutless panzy in the NHL? That's rich.
- cesareborgia

I'd say the biggest problem with the team is poor lineup decisions by Johnston. Which is my biggest concern going forward. The split PP idea is one of the byproducts of those personnel decisions.
- jfkst1

What are the other bad lineup decisions outside the pp and playing scuds at all?

Sheep. Keep believing everything you are told. 9/11 was legit dude!
- cesareborgia

haha I agree 9/11 was not legit and probably one of the biggest scams of the last 60 years... but I also agree the leafs are the worst franchise in sports. thats the other side of your bandwagon argument. Your support for for losing and not even crying for change, just taking it says something about your fanbase too...

#getscudsoutofthegigmjcauseheneedstobeatit

Any D men you move for Malkin would create a whole in our blue line, so what's the point?

I understand people have confidence in Price, but they're trying to rely on him less, not more.
- ehabs9

thats fair, but I think it might be worth the risk. anyway my previous point was this might have been better a few years ago, and if we make a hole in the def for malkin we can fill perhaps from another team. But you are right, wed be changing all the dynamics....

haha cool story. who wouldn't want to come play here ovechkin, malkin Crosby? all are on record as saying they would if they ever were traded or had the choice. but hey, leaf fans just like most Ontarian's are envious of the habs notoriety and montreals "scene" . you guys wish you could have the habs history.... instead you build yourself up with the history of losing and to be honest the leafs are the least relevant team of the original 6... truly sad for you
- munky123

Oh yeah crosby and Malkin are dying to play for the whiniest fan base in North America

Nobody envies you, if anything were ashamed that you ignorant whiny Quebecers can call yourself Canadians. Oh and the habs haven't won squat in more than 20 years. You guys are truly relevant.

What are the other bad lineup decisions outside the pp and playing scuds at all?
- Zac_O

Don't like Bennett and Perron playing their weak sides. Been skeptical of Plotnikov in the top 6 so I'm glad Perron is replacing him. Looks like he is fixing those two issues. I don't think the team has been a disaster like some, but poor lineup decisions are wholly avoidable and self-inflicted so I don't have any patience for them when they occur. It's hard enough to win in the league, it's that much harder when the coach isn't putting players in a position to succeed.

Oh yeah crosby and Malkin are dying to play for the whiniest fan base in North America

Nobody envies you, if anything were ashamed that you ignorant whiny Quebecers can call yourself Canadians. Oh and the habs haven't won squat in more than 20 years. You guys are truly relevant.
- cesareborgia

Troll much? You seem angry.

haha I agree 9/11 was not legit and probably one of the biggest scams of the last 60 years... but I also agree the leafs are the worst franchise in sports. thats the other side of your bandwagon argument. Your support for for losing and not even crying for change, just taking it says something about your fanbase too...
- munky123

Of course we've been crying for change. And it's finally arrived.

Oh yeah crosby and Malkin are dying to play for the whiniest fan base in North America

Nobody envies you, if anything were ashamed that you ignorant whiny Quebecers can call yourself Canadians. Oh and the habs haven't won squat in more than 20 years. You guys are truly relevant.
- cesareborgia

you lost what little credibility you had... sorry you aren't eeven worth my time anymore b... good luck in your narrowminded world buddy

"Montreal is undefeated and leads the NHL in Score-Adjusted Fenwick at 63.11% That doesn't mean they are necessarily an elite team this year it just means they have been c rushing their opponents (Toronto, Boston, Ottawa)."

While I agree their opponents thus far haven't been "elite" yet, when you play middle of the pack teams and crush them you aren't just a good team, I think you are considered Elite especially its been all those road games in one week. Anyways, I'm just poking fun at the semantics and I get your point. I just find it funny, that no matter what success the habs have had they aren't considered an Elite team. But people have no problem saying the blues, pens, kings, even Columbus this off season, people are saying they are elite. cool story.

You know for a few years now, I think it's been pretty obvious the habs and pens would make incredible trade partners. I'm not sure Malkin fits anymore with out staal or a more balanced winger core. Mtl also has a back log of dman and probably in the top 5 NHL wide shut down 2 way centers in plekanec.

In no way am I suggesting malkin for plek's, but I wonder why a package hasnt or I wonder if a package could be made that would suit both parties. We need a #1 c you guys need top 2/4 def and an elite pk 2 way center.
- munky123

Therrien doesn't want any Pens players - they soff, like, he never seen player soff like dis.

People why are you feeding this troll so much? If he weren't trolling this bad id understand but this is obvious to be a pointless person to reply to. DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!! Its ok to feed the lower level trolls but one without a brain completely should be left alone.

Also keep your hippie conspiracy theories to yourself. I don't come here to see what you think about things other than hockey.

Don't like Bennett and Perron playing their weak sides. Been skeptical of Plotnikov in the top 6 so I'm glad Perron is replacing him. Looks like he is fixing those two issues. I don't think the team has been a disaster like some, but poor lineup decisions are wholly avoidable and self-inflicted so I don't have any patience for them when they occur. It's hard enough to win in the league, it's that much harder when the coach isn't putting players in a position to succeed.
- jfkst1

I mostly agree. But for Bennett to be worth anything to the pens going forward I think he needs to learn to play wherever they need him to.

Therrien doesn't want any Pens players - they soff, like, he never seen player soff like dis.
- thevelvetfog1

They don care...

I mostly agree. But for Bennett to be worth anything to the pens going forward I think he needs to learn to play wherever they need him to.
- Zac_O

My biggest issue by far is the playing time allocated to the dmen. There MIGHT be a top 4 dmen among Dumoulin/Clendening/Pouliot but they aren't gonna develop if they don't get more NHL TOI. Playing Scuderi 3rd most TOI is simply brain dead to me. If Johnston really thinks Scuds is deserving of that ice time I'm very concerned about his ability to evaluate players.

People why are you feeding this troll so much? If he weren't trolling this bad id understand but this is obvious to be a pointless person to reply to. DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!! Its ok to feed the lower level trolls but one without a brain completely should be left alone.

Also keep your hippie conspiracy theories to yourself. I don't come here to see what you think about things other than hockey.
- Zac_O

Lmao. Sheep.

They don care...
- ehabs9

No, dey don. Dey preten like dey care, but hey, I know dey don care.

No, dey don. Dey preten like dey care, but hey, I know dey don care.
- thevelvetfog1

One of the best (if not THE best) coach rant of all time.

My biggest issue by far is the playing time allocated to the dmen. There MIGHT be a top 4 dmen among Dumoulin/Clendening/Pouliot but they aren't gonna develop if they don't get more NHL TOI. Playing Scuderi 3rd most TOI is simply brain dead to me. If Johnston really thinks Scuds is deserving of that ice time I'm very concerned about his ability to evaluate players.
- jfkst1

I still believe they are only doing it to try to make some trade value out of him. But yes its terrible management by Johnston.

I still believe they are only doing it to try to make some trade value out of him. But yes its terrible management by Johnston.
- Zac_O

Boston it appears needs some help on D. Would Scudsmuffin agree to move there I wonder?

My biggest issue by far is the playing time allocated to the dmen. There MIGHT be a top 4 dmen among Dumoulin/Clendening/Pouliot but they aren't gonna develop if they don't get more NHL TOI. Playing Scuderi 3rd most TOI is simply brain dead to me. If Johnston really thinks Scuds is deserving of that ice time I'm very concerned about his ability to evaluate players.
- jfkst1

Here, here!!!