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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
Labarbera is only making $600K according to General Fanager, which leaves them with JUST ENOUGH to do it.
- jmatchett383


*these aren't the cap issues you're looking for...*
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:29 PM ET
Anybody that poops on the legacy that Ed Snider has created in this city is an idiot.

And old timers can spare me their Jerry Wolman stories. I know that bit.

Ed Snider is the best sports owner this town has ever seen, both on and off the field of play. And it's really not even close.

- johndewar



I think Snider has been a great owner. I will never compain about an owner wanting to win and having no issue spending money. Yes in a cap age that needs to be held in check a bit but you have to love an owner who has no issue eating mistakes. Plus what he has done with the Ed Snider Youth Foundation and the city rinks is amazing. I was a volunteer coach from season 1 up until last year and have seen first hand what a great job it has done
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
Labarbera is only making $600K according to General Fanager, which leaves them with JUST ENOUGH to do it.
- jmatchett383

i would have dressed vinny
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
i would have dressed vinny
- PhillaBully

I know Vinny is getting a little long in the tooth, but I'm pretty sure he can still dress himself.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
I know Vinny is getting a little long in the tooth, but I'm pretty sure he can still dress himself.
- BiggE

maybe those bunny teeth can stop some pucks
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:51 PM ET
I know Vinny is getting a little long in the tooth, but I'm pretty sure he can still dress himself.
- BiggE


Do you think he remembers how to put on a hockey jersey for a regular season game?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
The one I heard was Simmonds, 2014 1st, 2015 1st. Hextall wanted the 2015 lottery protected and Florida said no. So it would have been Simmonds, Sanheim, and Provorv.
- jmatchett383


Except with Ekblad we probably don't pick at 7. With how good 2015 class was it would have definitely been an impact player though. I like games like this :D
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
maybe those bunny teeth can stop some pucks
- PhillaBully


aww
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
Mason apparently taking morning skate with team tomorrow. Does he play? Back up ? No idea. But back with the team is a good sign.
- Tfaehner


I am glad he's back with the team and I hope that the personal matter is resolved for him..
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Hmm like skate faster than a turtle?
- BiggE

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
Hmm like skate faster than a turtle?
- BiggE


PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:17 PM ET

- jmatchett383


i know your making fun off figure skating, but trust me if you want to become a better hockey skater take a few figure skating classes. The deal i made with my mom was to take figure skating along with hockey in elementary school. Poor kid..
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
i know your making fun off figure skating, but trust me if you want to become a better hockey skater take a few figure skating classes.
- PhillaBully


That's actually not what I was doing at all.

And figure skating is incredibly hard.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
That's actually not what I was doing at all.

And figure skating is incredibly hard.

- jmatchett383


still the kid is probably faster than vinny....
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:20 PM ET
i know your making fun off figure skating, but trust me if you want to become a better hockey skater take a few figure skating classes. The deal i made with my mom was to take figure skating along with hockey in elementary school. Poor kid..
- PhillaBully


My future step mothers daughters are professional figure skaters and one made the Olympics true story.

But the teenage mutant ninja turtle adds excellent flare
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:20 PM ET

- jmatchett383


Does the outfit count as all 50 Pieces of flare ?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
Except with Ekblad we probably don't pick at 7. With how good 2015 class was it would have definitely been an impact player though. I like games like this :D
- YuenglingJagr



But do we still trade Coburn and kimmo And than trade up for a guy like barzal for instance ? Or still grab konecky and than sprong?

Do we instead of dealing Coburn cause we were in the playoff hunt trade a depth guy ?

Do we ever resign Macdonald?

Do we not resign Macdonald keep Coburn and than sign a big money forward instead?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:23 PM ET

- BiggE


the tongue bit is hilarious.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
2015-Duncan Keith
2014-Drew Doughty
2013-Duncan Keith
2012-Drew Doughty
2011-Zdeno Chara
2010-Duncan Keith
2009-Sergei Gonchar*
2008- Lidstrom
2007-Niedermayer/Pronger
2006-Brett Hedican*
2004-Dan Boyle*
2003-Niedermayer
2002-Lidstrom
2001-bourque/Blake
2000-Niedermayer
1999-Sydor*
1998-Lidstrom
1997-Lidstrom
1996-Adam Foote*
1995-Niedermayer
1994-Leetch

Your right, you don't need a number 1 to win, you need a hall of fame calibre number 1 defenseman to win a Stanley cup. Only 5 of the last 21 Stanley cup teams did not have a hall of fame level number 1 defensemen. A hall of fame center might be the only thing you need more.

- psuhockey


i request you amend this list to begin in 1996. thank you.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:27 PM ET
I think Snider has been a great owner. I will never compain about an owner wanting to win and having no issue spending money. Yes in a cap age that needs to be held in check a bit but you have to love an owner who has no issue eating mistakes. Plus what he has done with the Ed Snider Youth Foundation and the city rinks is amazing. I was a volunteer coach from season 1 up until last year and have seen first hand what a great job it has done
- nastyflyergirl


agree completely. the only real knock on him in my view that holds any water is perhaps keeping too many former players in the front office/coaching staff and not being patient enough at times.

i admire his passion, desire to win and doing what he thought was right in order to achieve that. i also admire his loyalty, even if it's been part of the problem.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
But do we still trade Coburn and kimmo And than trade up for a guy like barzal for instance ? Or still grab konecky and than sprong?

Do we instead of dealing Coburn cause we were in the playoff hunt trade a depth guy ?

Do we ever resign Macdonald?

Do we not resign Macdonald keep Coburn and than sign a big money forward instead?

- Tfaehner


I think the AMac extension was signed prior to the draft.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Does the outfit count as all 50 Pieces of flare ?
- Tfaehner

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
The CF% is less of an issue for me in such a small sample than the fact Hakstol is giving him 70% OZ starts. Even if that dropped to 60% over time that would be a huge number for a supposed top 6 dman. If Manning is going to be the most sheltered player on the Flyers he should not be an everyday player. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm worried the Manning experiment might be a new coach trying to show how clever he is.
- Feanor


They're both a problem to me if they continue. His o zone starts are better used for Medvedev and Streit. But you can't get obliterated while seeing such usage. To be sheltered and do well shows a player has flaws but use. Manning doesn't have a track record really to go off of, so we shall see. That pairing right now is essentially MDZ-WorseMDZ in style and ability. Luke and MDZ are a good compliment though, and had very good possession numbers last year. I hope Hakstol comes around.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
Eh, we'll see how the numbers shake out in a few weeks. That 2nd-game was nothing but statistical noise.
- Tomahawk


They did worse stats wise in the 5v5 possession game against the Lightning than the Panthers actually. But I did put like 17 warnings in my posts about small sample and don't read too much into these yet haha. Just mulling over stuff, no conclusions!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
They're both a problem to me if they continue. His o zone starts are better used for Medvedev and Streit. But you can't get obliterated while seeing such usage. To be sheltered and do well shows a player has flaws but use. Manning doesn't have a track record really to go off of, so we shall see. That pairing right now is essentially MDZ-WorseMDZ in style and ability. Luke and MDZ are a good compliment though, and had very good possession numbers last year. I hope Hakstol comes around.
- Mononoke

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