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acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Oct 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Fun unrelated factoit time. There was once a "sarcasm mark" that you would use as puncuation after a sentence that is written sarcastically. I see absolutely no reason for it to not still exist. Places like this really need it.
- Zac_O


We just use italics here.

Scuderi needs to be in the top defensive pairing
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Most likely a "self-serve" one.
- chimpira

More like "soft"-serve
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Oct 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
Why Big Buff? Does not make sense
Kzak99
Calgary Flames
Location: Playa Tamarindo
Joined: 08.25.2011

Oct 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
Hey Pittsburgh, we've got what you need in Calgary. Take a look at what Wideman did in the regular season and the playoffs for us last year. We've got some good, young forwards we could throw in to sweeten the deal. Let us know
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
The world needs to be made aware of this. What did this glorious thing look like?
- Victoro311

Apparently it's a backwards question mark. It's so perfect...
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Oct 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
I can't believe we traded a 1st rd pick for Perron ... seems like a waste. He definitely hasn't stepped up to the plate. He looks like he plays scared. He is also not vocal enough. Too nice or something.
- chimpira


I had no problem with the trade. They were trading for a young goal scoring winger that wasn't a one year rental. He started out great then fizzled. Hopefully he can bounce back in his second year the way Neal did.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Oct 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
He's untradeable. I really believe that. That limited NTC is a b!tch. Should have bought him out however. Dead money sucks. But I'm starting to believe having Scuds is worse than the dead money problem.
- madmike71


Unfortunately the buyout this past summer for Scuderi was too punitive in nature. I believe it would have resulted in significant cap hits this year and next and smaller hits the following two years (it would have impacted the cap for four years!). By keeping him one more season the buyout next summer will be much less severe (small cap hits next season and the one after). I fully expect them to buy him out next summer. Unfortunately the damage caused by the Scuderi contract has already been done - the inability to resign Martin. Even if the Pens had bought out Scuderi they probably still could not have resigned Martin due to the big cap him from the buyout. As long as Scuderi is kept in the press box he can't hurt the team any more than he already has.

I also think that Lovejoy's play so far has been equally as bad as Scuderi's. It seems like almost every time a goal is scored against the Pens one of the two is on the ice. The only difference between the two is that Lovejoy doesn't hurt the cap situation as much.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Unfortunately the buyout this past summer for Scuderi was too punitive in nature. I believe it would have resulted in significant cap hits this year and next and smaller hits the following two years (it would have impacted the cap for four years!). By keeping him one more season the buyout next summer will be much less severe (small cap hits next season and the one after). I fully expect them to buy him out next summer. Unfortunately the damage caused by the Scuderi contract has already been done - the inability to resign Martin. Even if the Pens had bought out Scuderi they probably still could not have resigned Martin due to the big cap him from the buyout. As long as Scuderi is kept in the press box he can't hurt the team any more than he already has.

I also think that Lovejoy's play so far has been equally as bad as Scuderi's. It seems like almost every time a goal is scored against the Pens one of the two is on the ice. The only difference between the two is that Lovejoy doesn't hurt the cap situation as much.

- PghPens668771


Yeah, Lovejoy is a much cheaper pylon than Scuds. But a pylon nonetheless.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
Hey Pittsburgh, we've got what you need in Calgary. Take a look at what Wideman did in the regular season and the playoffs for us last year. We've got some good, young forwards we could throw in to sweeten the deal. Let us know
- Kzak99

How bout we trade you Scuderi for Wideman and a forward prospect and we can each buy our each other's problems next season. Waddaya say?
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
Thought he went after... My bad.
- Victoro311


I was hoping he would slip.. So I was right there with ya in hoping we got him
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Oct 1 @ 11:01 AM ET
Yeah, Lovejoy is a much cheaper pylon than Scuds. But a pylon nonetheless.
- chimpira


Pylon doesn't do it justice. More like a clueless strumpet who drops her drawers at the sound of a zipper. He gets faked out so easily.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
Unfortunately the buyout this past summer for Scuderi was too punitive in nature. I believe it would have resulted in significant cap hits this year and next and smaller hits the following two years (it would have impacted the cap for four years!). By keeping him one more season the buyout next summer will be much less severe (small cap hits next season and the one after). I fully expect them to buy him out next summer. Unfortunately the damage caused by the Scuderi contract has already been done - the inability to resign Martin. Even if the Pens had bought out Scuderi they probably still could not have resigned Martin due to the big cap him from the buyout. As long as Scuderi is kept in the press box he can't hurt the team any more than he already has.

I also think that Lovejoy's play so far has been equally as bad as Scuderi's. It seems like almost every time a goal is scored against the Pens one of the two is on the ice. The only difference between the two is that Lovejoy doesn't hurt the cap situation as much.

- PghPens668771



Would have been 1.2 this year. 1.8 next year. Under a mil the last two years. Yes, that seems bad, but not as bad as having a guy (that can't play anymore) eat up 3.4 for two more years of the Sid and Geno era.

Cap space is precious for this team. We need every penny towards players that can play.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 1 @ 11:05 AM ET
Would have been 1.2 this year. 1.8 next year. Under a mil the last two years. Yes, that seems bad, but not as bad as having a guy (that can't play anymore) eat up 3.4 for two more years of the Sid and Geno era.

Cap space is precious for this team. We need every penny towards players that can play.

- madmike71

It wouldn't have made a difference this season. Buying out scuds wouldn't have freed up enough to sign Franson. The time to buy him out is next offseason when there's players to extend and possibly UFAs to sign.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:07 AM ET
Unfortunately the buyout this past summer for Scuderi was too punitive in nature. I believe it would have resulted in significant cap hits this year and next and smaller hits the following two years (it would have impacted the cap for four years!). By keeping him one more season the buyout next summer will be much less severe (small cap hits next season and the one after). I fully expect them to buy him out next summer. Unfortunately the damage caused by the Scuderi contract has already been done - the inability to resign Martin. Even if the Pens had bought out Scuderi they probably still could not have resigned Martin due to the big cap him from the buyout. As long as Scuderi is kept in the press box he can't hurt the team any more than he already has.

I also think that Lovejoy's play so far has been equally as bad as Scuderi's. It seems like almost every time a goal is scored against the Pens one of the two is on the ice. The only difference between the two is that Lovejoy doesn't hurt the cap situation as much.

- PghPens668771


They did right by moving on from PM. No reason to make him the next Scuderi. Let someone else pay for the regress years. Our glut was D-men, time to play them. Regular season will be a fine tryout. Re-evaluate come February and pray for health!
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 1 @ 11:13 AM ET
It wouldn't have made a difference this season. Buying out scuds wouldn't have freed up enough to sign Franson. The time to buy him out is next offseason when there's players to extend and possibly UFAs to sign.
- Victoro311


They could have made it work. You save 2.2 this year. Couldn't sign Cullen however. Next year would be a little more tricky, but not much.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:16 AM ET
They could have made it work. You save 2.2 this year. Couldn't sign Cullen however. Next year would be a little more tricky, but not much.
- madmike71


So we don't sign Cullen - big deal. I hear that he still has some in the tank but from what it seems, not much.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 1 @ 11:19 AM ET
So we don't sign Cullen - big deal. I hear that he still has some in the tank. But I hear the beeping of the low fuel indicator.
- chimpira


Exactly. Obviously this all hindsight. I can't really blame Ruth because, like the rest of us, he was counting on Pouliot.

All I'm saying is if Scuds were bought out, we could have Franson for 2 years at the contract he signed with Buff.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 1 @ 11:22 AM ET
Will you guys stop messing around with Spring and send him back to US (Islanders). Thank you.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
Apparently it's a backwards question mark. It's so perfect...
- Victoro311

That's one. There is also one that's a question mark and exclamation point combined. And another that's a G with an extra loop around it and a dot in the middle.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 1 @ 11:25 AM ET
I have to agree here, Perron should go. He was a no show in playoffs last year and could fetch a good future return. Dustin B would be nice, but don't see it happening with cap issues and his salary demands.
- CappyJr.


Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Oct 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Perron alone isn't worth a top four Dman like Buff. We don't have the assets to acquire such a player. Perron is worth a pick and a prospect maybe.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Oct 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
So we don't sign Cullen - big deal. I hear that he still has some in the tank but from what it seems, not much.
- chimpira



There was no reason to sign Cullen in the first place.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Pylon doesn't do it justice. More like a clueless strumpet who drops her drawers at the sound of a zipper. He gets faked out so easily.
- powerhouse



chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:27 AM ET
Here is to hoping that our top 2 lines will keep scoring 7 goals/night so that if our D and Flower let in 5, we still get the W.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 11:43 AM ET
After this year the trade option for scuderi opens up a lot more. he's only owed 2.5 million with a cap hit of 3.375. I believe the total cap hit over 2 years on a buy out is 2/3 so we would divvy up about 2.2 million over 2 years. Or we could pick up his entire salary of 2.5 and give another team a free player and take the 2.5 cap hit in one year. I think it would work out that way if we retaiin 2.5 Even better find someone who thinks scuds is worth $1 million and you just retain 1.5 for one year.
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