Montreal scored THREE less goals than the almighty penguins offense last year. Oh and we have something called defense too
- QuickSCF

You do? Because last year Gonchar was a big piece of that defense for awhile and he's terrible. I like our defense better than yours. Letang is better than Subban and has less a revolting cap hit. And you have no Maatta.

Hahaha man Montreals defense smokes yours. Letang is good but injured all the time And highly overplayed. I like maata that's about it. Bare as a welfare cupboard.

But why spend money on defense right? Spend it all on high end forwards and still only produce 3 goals more than the "terrible" goal starved Habs.

Good luck in the first round. If you are lucky you'll get 2 rounds out of it .

If you score 5 goals a game in the playoffs fleury will still give up 6. Sit down
- QuickSCF

Don't make me break your defense down like I broke the Rnagers down earlier today, your's is not as good as thiers's and their fans are still crying.

He wasn't dominating his junior league last year. Pens don't need a RW.
It's a waste if he isn't playing in the top 9. He might get a 9 game tryout, I don't think there is any chance he stays after that unless he exceeds expectations and Pens lose someone to injuries.
- jfkst1

I just disagree with your logic. If he is better than any of our roster players....then you play him.

ALso have the outside chance of spelling an existing roster player that we could trade for defense.

For fun
PK Subban- Big mouth, ahole, although I respect his charity work, over rated, got a gold medal but did not deserve it- Would not trade Letang or Maatta for but probably the rest

Andrei Markov- Looks like 60 years old Rushian boy molester, Nostrovia!! Old and nearly useless- would not even trade Scuderi for but you can just take the shell that used to be Gonchar

Jeff Petry- Big, serviceable if unspectacular, not going to let you down often but not going to win a game for you- not getting you Letang or Maatta, prob not Pouliot(still more upside), Cole= draw, would probably get you the rest

Alexi Ememlin- See Markov but think next generation or some manner of incest or a genetic experiment gone horrible wrong. Isn't Lucic obsessed with his nuts? I'd say he would get you Lovejoy, Scuderi and Rushian herpes.

Tom Gilbert- Who? Doesn't he sing Margauritaville? Or "isn't it unusual?" Oh he plays hockey? Yeah, no not interested

Weaver, Pateryn, Barberio- garbage, garbage, garbage, next

Nathan Beaulieau- honestly don't know enough about him.

You're right though you win, oh wait you're for Montreal, no you lose, BIG TIME!

Most fans of other teams don't know anything about the Pens. They think of the 2012 Flyers series and base their opinions off of that (Fleury sucks, Pens don't play defense, team has zero discipline). The reality is that the defense last year was very good when healthy. Granted losing Ehrhoff and Martin will hurt, but even when Pens had injuries last year the defense was still at least average overall.
- jfkst1

I think they just need to get past the preseason, create the pecking order for the defense so there is no uncertainty then these poor kids that are terrified 1 F up is going to get them back on the bus to Wilkes Barre know they have nothing to worry about, Then you will see their true talent shine through........I hope!!!!

For fun
PK Subban- Big mouth, ahole, although I respect his charity work, over rated, got a gold medal but did not deserve it- Would not trade Letang or Maatta for but probably the rest

Andrei Markov- Looks like 60 years old Rushian boy molester, Nostrovia!! Old and nearly useless- would not even trade Scuderi for but you can just take the shell that used to be Gonchar

Jeff Petry- Big, serviceable if unspectacular, not going to let you down often but not going to win a game for you- not getting you Letang or Maatta, prob not Pouliot(still more upside), Cole= draw, would probably get you the rest

Alexi Ememlin- See Markov but think next generation or some manner of incest or a genetic experiment gone horrible wrong. Isn't Lucic obsessed with his nuts? I'd say he would get you Lovejoy, Scuderi and Rushian herpes.

Tom Gilbert- Who? Doesn't he sing Margauritaville? Or "isn't it unusual?" Oh he plays hockey? Yeah, no not interested

Weaver, Pateryn, Barberio- garbage, garbage, garbage, next

Nathan Beaulieau- honestly don't know enough about him.

You're right though you win, oh wait you're for Montreal, no you lose, BIG TIME!
- Dcoms

Haha these are funny but I wouldn't be doing it if I were you. Way too easy to do it right back to us.

Letang: Norris caliber when healthy but is one concussion away from hanging them up. Won't play over 60 games a season for the rest of his career.

Maatta: had one good season and the entire fan base is ready to suck his Richard. Two major shoulder injuries. Massive question mark.

Pouliot: despite being anointed an Olympian already, was given highly sheltered minutes last season and proved nothing. Continuing to prove nothing this preseason.

Cole: solid bottom pairing defenseman at worst, but we have a poop ton of bottom pairing defensemen.

Dumoulin: has yet to earn NHL consideration despite dominating the AHL. Could be a career AHLer

Clendening: third team in four years.

Erixon: more of a gypsy than Clendening. Was even claimed off waivers.

Lovejoy: bottom pairing defenseman who's not a great fit in our system but will have to play in the top four.

Scuderi: garbage

Gonchar: garbage that can shoot


I don't fully believe a lot of the stuff I just said, but as you can see we are a very easy target.

Blackhawks cut Visnovsky, Kopecky, Paille from camp

Setoguchi available as well.

Would Visnovsky be a better choice than Gonchar at this point?

I like Kopecky for a 4th line role.

Haha these are funny but I wouldn't be doing it if I were you. Way too easy to do it right back to us.

Letang: Norris caliber when healthy but is one concussion away from hanging them up. Won't play over 60 games a season for the rest of his career.

Maatta: had one good season and the entire fan base is ready to suck his Richard. Two major shoulder injuries. Massive question mark.

Pouliot: despite being anointed an Olympian already, was given highly sheltered minutes last season and proved nothing. Continuing to prove nothing this preseason.

Cole: solid bottom pairing defenseman at worst, but we have a poop ton of bottom pairing defensemen.

Dumoulin: has yet to earn NHL consideration despite dominating the AHL. Could be a career AHLer

Clendening: third team in four years.

Erixon: more of a gypsy than Clendening. Was even claimed off waivers.

Lovejoy: bottom pairing defenseman who's not a great fit in our system but will have to play in the top four.

Scuderi: garbage

Gonchar: garbage that can shoot


I don't fully believe a lot of the stuff I just said, but as you can see we are a very easy target.
- Victoro311

You're not supposed to do it, I know that much.

Blackhawks cut Visnovsky, Kopecky, Paille from camp

Setoguchi available as well.

Would Visnovsky be a better choice than Gonchar at this point?

I like Kopecky for a 4th line role.
- Barnaby36

Hows Visnovsky's relationship with Malkin?

Can we trade Scuderi for a player thats been cut?

Blackhawks cut Visnovsky, Kopecky, Paille from camp

Setoguchi available as well.

Would Visnovsky be a better choice than Gonchar at this point?

I like Kopecky for a 4th line role.
- Barnaby36

Visnovsky is better than Gonchar yes most likely, the rest there is no need for we have 13 forwards that should make the opening day roster and can only carry 12 because we are carrying 8 D. But at this point I think Pouliot's nerves are killing him, his head is not right and his confidence is obviously faded. I think he starts the season in Wilkes and I hate to say that because I believe in the kid. So on the opening night roster I take 6 d, Letang/ Maatta, Cole/ Dumo, Lovejoy/ Clendening, Pouliot goes to WBS and the others can go straight to hell.

EDIT- I take that back I forgot I like Warsofsky, he can be the #7, he's small but he's fast and he's got a ton of talent.

Holy poop pretty sensitive bunch. I stumbled along here and saw a guy say montreal is terrible without price. I responded to say pens only scored 3 more goals and we have better defense lol i didn't need a player by player breakdown of each roster. I thought ranger fans were bad. Wow. Neither team is winning the cup so who cares .

I'd go as far to say Montreal or Pittsburgh never wins a cup again. At least in the next decade or 2

Visnovsky is better than Gonchar yes most likely, the rest there is no need for we have 13 forwards that should make the opening day roster and can only carry 12 because we are carrying 8 D. But at this point I think Pouliot's nerves are killing him, his head is not right and his confidence is obviously faded. I think he starts the season in Wilkes and I hate to say that because I believe in the kid. So on the opening night roster I take 6 d, Letang/ Maatta, Cole/ Dumo, Lovejoy/ Clendening, Pouliot goes to WBS and the others can go straight to hell.

EDIT- I take that back I forgot I like Warsofsky, he can be the #7, he's small but he's fast and he's got a ton of talent.
- Dcoms

Don't know much about Clendening nor Warsofsky. Are they playing well? Different styles? Whom do they compare to? Goligoski? Niskanen?

Holy poop pretty sensitive bunch. I stumbled along here and saw a guy say montreal is terrible without price. I responded to say pens only scored 3 more goals and we have better defense lol i didn't need a player by player breakdown of each roster. I thought ranger fans were bad. Wow. Neither team is winning the cup so who cares .

I'd go as far to say Montreal or Pittsburgh never wins a cup again. At least in the next decade or 2
- QuickSCF

LOL Montreal definitely won't. Pittsburgh on the other hand have a 25% chance

LOL Montreal definitely won't. Pittsburgh on the other hand have a 25% chance
- Barnaby36

Yea pens have a 1 in 4 shot with 2 capable defensemen, who will probably play 75-100 games combined, and a goalie who can't stop a beach ball when the pressure is on.

Where do I sign up to bet on these odds?

I'm done here anyways. Always read on this site fans of 29 teams saying pens fans were the most delusional. I didn't believe it until I read Maata is better than SubbaN. Never open this thread again it's like a thread full of James tanners. Everyone was right. Go live your pipe dreams of making round 2.

Yea pens have a 1 in 4 shot with 2 capable defensemen, who will probably play 75-100 games combined, and a goalie who can't stop a beach ball when the pressure is on.

Where do I sign up to bet on these odds?

I'm done here anyways. Always read on this site fans of 29 teams saying pens fans were the most delusional. I didn't believe it until I read Maata is better than SubbaN. Never open this thread again it's like a thread full of James tanners. Everyone was right. Go live your pipe dreams of making round 2.
- QuickSCF

Good riddance, keep spouting nonsense while playing the victim. You fit in real nice for a Canadian.

France and Quevbec are as different as Australia and the USA probably more
- Dcoms

Yes I've seen a few French Canadian films & thought wtf?? Had to ask my wife at times due to the different dialect & even my cheese & kisses who is French had trouble with a word or 2.

Montreal scored THREE less goals than the almighty penguins offense last year. Oh and we have something called defense too
- QuickSCF

From what I heard Price was being Price - lucky because that 'defence' wasn't doing what it was supposed to do & stop the Pens offence.

How many came off Prices handle???

you're really going out on a limb there, buddy
- BulliesPhan87

That's enough of that!

Yea pens have a 1 in 4 shot with 2 capable defensemen, who will probably play 75-100 games combined, and a goalie who can't stop a beach ball when the pressure is on.

Where do I sign up to bet on these odds?

I'm done here anyways. Always read on this site fans of 29 teams saying pens fans were the most delusional. I didn't believe it until I read Maata is better than SubbaN. Never open this thread again it's like a thread full of James tanners. Everyone was right. Go live your pipe dreams of making round 2.
- QuickSCF

It might be fair to say that Pittsburgh is the emergence or acquisition of 1 top 4 d man away from being a cup team... that's a lot closer then Montreal... Fleury has been great in the big spot the last two years... Maatta is not better then Subban at this point... but the potential is their... Letang is better and cheaper...

Friend when you go onto another thread an say dumb things what do you think is going to happen?

For fun
PK Subban- Big mouth, ahole, although I respect his charity work, over rated, got a gold medal but did not deserve it- Would not trade Letang or Maatta for but probably the rest

Andrei Markov- Looks like 60 years old Rushian boy molester, Nostrovia!! Old and nearly useless- would not even trade Scuderi for but you can just take the shell that used to be Gonchar

Jeff Petry- Big, serviceable if unspectacular, not going to let you down often but not going to win a game for you- not getting you Letang or Maatta, prob not Pouliot(still more upside), Cole= draw, would probably get you the rest

Alexi Ememlin- See Markov but think next generation or some manner of incest or a genetic experiment gone horrible wrong. Isn't Lucic obsessed with his nuts? I'd say he would get you Lovejoy, Scuderi and Rushian herpes.

Tom Gilbert- Who? Doesn't he sing Margauritaville? Or "isn't it unusual?" Oh he plays hockey? Yeah, no not interested

Weaver, Pateryn, Barberio- garbage, garbage, garbage, next

Nathan Beaulieau- honestly don't know enough about him.

You're right though you win, oh wait you're for Montreal, no you lose, BIG TIME!
- Dcoms

don't hold anything back bro ...

Blackhawks cut Visnovsky, Kopecky, Paille from camp

Setoguchi available as well.

Would Visnovsky be a better choice than Gonchar at this point?

I like Kopecky for a 4th line role.
- Barnaby36

Seto is absolute garbage. Has been since, well ...2012-2013. No need for Kopecky. We will need the remaining $$$ to find a Dman that is worth something.

You're not supposed to do it, I know that much.
- Dcoms

Lol sorry.

Yea pens have a 1 in 4 shot with 2 capable defensemen, who will probably play 75-100 games combined, and a goalie who can't stop a beach ball when the pressure is on.

Where do I sign up to bet on these odds?

I'm done here anyways. Always read on this site fans of 29 teams saying pens fans were the most delusional. I didn't believe it until I read Maata is better than SubbaN. Never open this thread again it's like a thread full of James tanners. Everyone was right. Go live your pipe dreams of making round 2.
- QuickSCF

Haha delusional? We consistently crucify our own players and only spent one day excited about Kessel before we went back to talking about what's wrong with our team and how we're not a cup team. As a collective we're quite realistic which is why we tend to call out others for being unrealistic about their "amazing teams that Pittsburgh can't hold a candle to." Fact remains Montreal is a wildcard team at best without Price and it's super dangerous to rely that heavily on goal tending

Ok people, how did the D go against The Habs?

Can we put a red line through Gonchar definitively?

Ok people, how did the D go against The Habs?

Can we put a red line through Gonchar definitively?
- Aussiepenguin

Didn't watch but I'm gonna go ahead and run off the assumption that if the score was 1-4 it wasn't good. I'm curious to know how Pouliot did with Letang more so than how our other two pairs did. Our second pairing didn't have NHL talents and our third pairing of Scuderi-Gonchar was, well, Scuderi-Gonchar.