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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Yea, no way he makes the team this year. I liked what I saw from Medvedev.
- ClaudeFather


I really liked what I saw. I think he will go a long way in improving the defense. By midseason I wouldn't be surprised to see him get top pairing minutes.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:31 AM ET
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
On Konecny

It's funny that Jonesy said it reminds him of the Simon Gagne decision in 99. That thought entered my mind. It's tough to send a guy that makes things happen so often back when we have a few wingers that disappear for long stretches. I hope he gets a look with NHL caliber guys.


It's gotta be tempting for hexy, although there is plenty of camp left.

- Richard_wilderness


Yup. It's extremely tempting. Konecny and Provorov show you how close they are. Another year in juniors won't hurt them, but I think if you keep them here, they can still improve and thrive.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:33 AM ET
He has earned it. He's better than Vinny and Umberger.

I feel like a lot of people have unrealistic expectations for a third line center.

- PhillySportsGuy

a good NHL third line center should score 60 points

send him to the AHL for another 8 years for additional seasoning and crisping
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 23 @ 10:33 AM ET
I really liked what I saw. I think he will go a long way in improving the defense. By midseason I wouldn't be surprised to see him get top pairing minutes.
- funmaster18


Haha I said to my buddy this might end up being our best defensman this year.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
Thanks Bill. Wow, how much a summer break makes for our team. Our team is more mobile than last season, and can actually make passes tape to tape. In addition, Simmer was a beast in getting back into his own zone, and helping out the D. I like what I see so far. Furthermore, what is up with Rosehill? He looked controlled, and can actually skate.
Is this the Twilight Zone or is this what we can expect during the regular season?
Ghost got off to a slow start last night, but had a good third period. I was starting to wonder about him.
Konecny continues to impress. Gagner looks like he is starting to feel comfortable with his new team.
Warm fuzzies all around, but the East looks like it's going to be tough this season. Numerous teams have improved, and the Flyers will have their work cut out for them. Thus, they will have to bring their "A" game every night.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
On Konecny

It's funny that Jonesy said it reminds him of the Simon Gagne decision in 99. That thought entered my mind. It's tough to send a guy that makes things happen so often back when we have a few wingers that disappear for long stretches. I hope he gets a look with NHL caliber guys.


It's gotta be tempting for hexy, although there is plenty of camp left.

- Richard_wilderness



Yeah, I was thinking of this and the decision to keep Justin Williams up after he was drafted. I think it might be more doable for a forward to make the jump than say Provy (although I'd love to see him legit earn a spot). I haven't watched a lot of the first two games, but from what I did see and from what I've heard.. he's been solid..
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 23 @ 10:37 AM ET
a good NHL third line center should score 60 points

send him to the AHL for another 8 years for additional seasoning and crisping

- BulliesPhan87


He needs to win the MVP of the AHL before he sniffs a 4th line spots in the NHL
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
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Sep 23 @ 10:37 AM ET
Haha I said to my buddy this might end up being our best defensman this year.
- ClaudeFather


I really would not be surprised at all by this, based on the limited playing time I've seen so far.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 23 @ 10:38 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/...orcing-team-pay-attention
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 10:40 AM ET
a good NHL third line center should score 60 points

send him to the AHL for another 8 years for additional seasoning and crisping

- BulliesPhan87


I think you will see more teams moving to an attacking offense that will have a 3rd line that brings more offense than the traditional shutdown line. Maybe not 60 points from your 3C, because there will not be enough PP time to go around, but the capability of reaching 60 points.

Playing Devil's advocate, rate the following groups of Centers in TWO years. There obviously is a little projection you have to do here.

Edmonton - McDavid, RNH, Draisatl
Buffalo - Eichel, ROR, Reinhart
Flyers - G, Couturier, Laughton

TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 10:41 AM ET
He needs to win the MVP of the AHL Calder-winning
Phantoms
before he sniffs a 4th line spots in the NHL

- PhillySportsGuy


Fixed.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
Really disagree. Laughton played 31 games last year and had a whopping 6 points. That's SIX points. Telling that Cousins got the call-up at the end of last year instead of Laughton. He really needs to develop offense if he is going to be anything more than a 4C. He won't do that in the NHL.
- TheGreat28


Also telling that Cousins had zero points in 11 games.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
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Sep 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-notes-travis-konecny-shayne-gostisbehere-forcing-team-pay-attention
- funmaster18


Cousins has been mentioned much, but I also thought he looked pretty good last night.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
I think you will see more teams moving to an attacking offense that will have a 3rd line that brings more offense than the traditional shutdown line. Maybe not 60 points from your 3C, because there will not be enough PP time to go around, but the capability of reaching 60 points.

Playing Devil's advocate, rate the following groups of Centers in TWO years. There obviously is a little projection you have to do here.

Edmonton - McDavid, RNH, Draisatl
Buffalo - Eichel, ROR, Reinhart
Flyers - G, Couturier, Laughton

- TheGreat28


Just because they use those three now doesn't mean those are their top 3 centers for the next 5 years.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:43 AM ET
Also telling that Cousins had zero points in 11 games.
- Feanor


I liked what I saw of him last night.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 23 @ 10:43 AM ET
a good NHL third line center should score 60 points

send him to the AHL for another 8 years for additional seasoning and crisping

- BulliesPhan87



just making sure this is sarcasm before I comment.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 23 @ 10:43 AM ET

Yay or Nay?

- Pixote Andolini

Gtfo I'm the gif guy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Also telling that Cousins had zero points in 11 games.
- Feanor


Outside of the top line, no one was really scoring last year.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
On Konecny

It's funny that Jonesy said it reminds him of the Simon Gagne decision in 99. That thought entered my mind. It's tough to send a guy that makes things happen so often back when we have a few wingers that disappear for long stretches. I hope he gets a look with NHL caliber guys.


It's gotta be tempting for hexy, although there is plenty of camp left.

- Richard_wilderness


It was kind of funny because Gagne was drafted in 98 after a 69 point season, and they sent him back to Junior and he racked up 120 points. Ideally that's what will happen with Konecny who had 68 points last year.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Gtfo I'm the gif guy
- Giroux_Is_God


TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
Also telling that Cousins had zero points in 11 games.
- Feanor


True. I personally don't think either one is the answer. As much as I defend Schenn, more so to counterbalance those who are overly critical against him, I don't think he is the answer. I still think the team will need to upgrade at 2C in the next couple of years. Principally why I wanted Barzal.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
Currently no votes on balloons. Yay or nay for the whose line gif on pg 1
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 23 @ 10:46 AM ET
Gtfo I'm the gif guy
- Giroux_Is_God


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