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MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
I think that was just his point. My post above shows that I think Moulson should play with Eichel and Girgensons.
- thatsapickle




Agreed
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Moreover, from the blog itself:

Back in the day NHL lines featured three players all with the same skill-level who found chemistry and just tortured the opposition--"The French Connection" in Buffalo, "Legion of Doom" in Philly and "West Coast Express" out in Vancouver are a few examples. But times have changed.

Generally Pachla's stuff is really good, but I feel like he decided he wanted to make a stretch on this one, and find a way to justify it, and it just came out all wrong.

- Der Kaiser


if we agreed all the time, it would be one, big vanilla pudding party...that said and to clarify; the point was that the "third wheel" so to speak is a complimentary player, kinda something like what kassian (and many others) did on the top line in Vancouver with the sedins
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
Not sure what you mean by that?
- MCGUIZZY

exactly what I said...moulson's slower than baptiste...did you see how difficult it was for baptiste to get in on that rush last Saturday?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Yea I hear ya but I dont think that you need a burner on either side of Eichel. I think just having a guy playing with him with goal scoring experience is most important right now. IMO Moulson is just not an ideal fit for this team. Hes one dimensional and not very versatile. But he is a proven scorer in the league which is desirable. Either way he needs to be in the top 6
- MCGUIZZY


I agree that Moulson should be in the top 6. His experience alone is helpful there. And I think there's a way to make it work either way. But Eichel definitely needs someone who can keep up with him on one side, evidenced by the first goal that was scored in the prospect tournament. Baptiste had to haul ass to get into that play, and he's not a slow player, so the fact that he had a hard time even getting in there in time tells you how quick Eichel is.

I don't know why people are getting so hung up on who's where to start the season to be quite honest. The lines are going to shuffle around a lot until they find that right chemistry, unless somehow Bylsma catches lightning in a bottle right out of the gate, but I doubt that.

With so many new faces, schemes, etc there's going to be some growing pains this year. But I think we all expect it for the most part. This team is either going to finish in the bottom 5-8 of the league or it's going to be contending for a low playoff position. It's hard to tell for sure either way.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
A big part of what makes Eichel so special is his skating ability. He's a powerful, fast skater. He needs to have guys on either side that can keep up with him. Girgs is a good fit. Kane has the speed, but likes to carry the puck like Eichel does.

Moulson isn't the best skater. He worked well with Tavares because while Tavares is a great talent, his skating is his "Achilles heel" if you will. On a PP unit, it would probably work fine, but for regular shifts, not sure it's the best option.

- HonkFortheGoose


thank you, goosie
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Kane will be speaking and (surprisingly) taking questions

http://www.csnchicago.com/page/liveblackhawks
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
if we agreed all the time, it would be one, big vanilla pudding party...that said and to clarify; the point was that the "third wheel" so to speak is a complimentary player, kinda something like what kassian (and many others) did on the top line in Vancouver with the sedins
- Michael Pachla



agreeing to disagree makes for a great premise to a conversation. As long as it's approached respectfully.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
agreeing to disagree makes for a great premise to a conversation. As long as it's approached respectfully.
- thatsapickle


we cool, picks
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
I agree that Moulson should be in the top 6. His experience alone is helpful there. And I think there's a way to make it work either way. But Eichel definitely needs someone who can keep up with him on one side, evidenced by the first goal that was scored in the prospect tournament. Baptiste had to haul ass to get into that play, and he's not a slow player, so the fact that he had a hard time even getting in there in time tells you how quick Eichel is.

I don't know why people are getting so hung up on who's where to start the season to be quite honest. The lines are going to shuffle around a lot until they find that right chemistry, unless somehow Bylsma catches lightning in a bottle right out of the gate, but I doubt that.

With so many new faces, schemes, etc there's going to be some growing pains this year. But I think we all expect it for the most part. This team is either going to finish in the bottom 5-8 of the league or it's going to be contending for a low playoff position. It's hard to tell for sure either way.

- HonkFortheGoose


thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:30 PM ET
we cool, picks
- Michael Pachla


Much appreciated.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
Kane will be speaking and (surprisingly) taking questions

http://www.csnchicago.com/page/liveblackhawks

- stashu


Seems he's maintaining that he didn't do anything wrong. I suspect this should all be wrapped up pretty soon.

stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
Seems he's maintaining that he didn't do anything wrong. I suspect this should all be wrapped up pretty soon.
- HonkFortheGoose


But he's confident he'll be "absolved of not doing anything wrong".
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Sep 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
So if eichel needs someone fast on his line put him on a line with ennis and be done with it
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
But he's confident he'll be "absolved of not doing anything wrong".
- stashu


He's pretty much keeping his mouth shut.

Also, Mike Harrington is a douche.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
exactly what I said...moulson's slower than baptiste...did you see how difficult it was for baptiste to get in on that rush last Saturday?
- Michael Pachla


This.
Moulson has the veteran experience to know how to get open.
Eichel is a playmaker.
If they end up on the same line, i don't think it's going to hurt either player.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
This.
Moulson has the veteran experience to know how to get open.
Eichel is a playmaker.
If they end up on the same line, i don't think it's going to hurt either player.

- seedy


agreed...as mentioned in the blogs, projecting where everyone falls into place outside of kane, oreilly, Eichel and ennis being in the top six, isn't easy...and like goosie said, flux will be theme for at least the first part of the season
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
This.
Moulson has the veteran experience to know how to get open.
Eichel is a playmaker.
If they end up on the same line, i don't think it's going to hurt either player.

- seedy



Like Goose has said... It's too early to tell, so let's wait and see what works before we nitpick. Not saying you are, but I don't think we really need to be adamant about lines until the season starts.

EDIT: Late
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
agreed...as mentioned in the blogs, projecting where everyone falls into place outside of kane, oreilly, Eichel and ennis being in the top six, isn't easy...and like goosie said, flux will be theme for at least the first part of the season
- Michael Pachla




Projecting Moulson into the top 6 seems like a no brainer to me. If hes not there, your not really getting the most out of a complimentary player like him.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
agreed...as mentioned in the blogs, projecting where everyone falls into place outside of kane, oreilly, Eichel and ennis being in the top six, isn't easy...and like goosie said, flux will be theme for at least the first part of the season
- Michael Pachla


yeah. We're so close, but we really don't have much to talk about beside line combo speculation.
You just keep being you, Pach.


MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
exactly what I said...moulson's slower than baptiste...did you see how difficult it was for baptiste to get in on that rush last Saturday?
- Michael Pachla



Wasnt sure if you meant "keeping up" in a more general term. But if that is your theory then why put o'reilly with the fastest skater on our team (kane)? idk I think Eichel will still need time to adjust so im not really worried so much that Moulson will be able to keep up with him. There are alot of excellent skaters in the NHL. Playing with an experienced player is most important
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
But if that is your theory then why put o'reilly with the fastest skater on our team (kane)?
- MCGUIZZY


Lets not worry about (aboot) it.
Everybody, have a beer!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Projecting Moulson into the top 6 seems like a no brainer to me. If hes not there, your not really getting the most out of a complimentary player like him.
- MCGUIZZY


who would you consider the best set-up player in camp right now?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
Wasnt sure if you meant "keeping up" in a more general term. But if that is your theory then why put o'reilly with the fastest skater on our team (kane)? idk I think Eichel will still need time to adjust so im not really worried so much that Moulson will be able to keep up with him.
- MCGUIZZY


eventually (and it might be a lot sooner than later) I can see kane and Eichel tearing up and down the ice on the top line...all the lines will be affected by that
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
who would you consider the best set-up player in camp right now?
- Michael Pachla



Ennis probably at the moment
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Ennis probably at the moment
- MCGUIZZY

whoa...didn't think of him, but he's pretty damn good
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