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Maggie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 03.06.2010

Sep 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
The Hawks have been very fortunate in the last few years not having very many underachievers relative to salaries paid. Both of us can write out a long list of stiffs in the NHL who haven't 'earned' the salary they are being paid. Putting a value on Bickell makes no sense because for sure he is going to the bank with $8M large in the next 2 years. If he isn't banged up beyond repair, its Q's job to get the most out of him.
- RickJ



Sox are on CSN, where is this going to be televised
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
Sox are on CSN, where is this going to be televised
- Maggie

CSN plus and here:
http://www.csnchicago.com/page/liveblackhawks
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
CSN plus and here:
http://www.csnchicago.com...conference-today-2-pm-csn

- bhawk1s


Someone should point the camera to the dais. It's a bit strange pointing it towards a cross
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Sep 17 @ 3:03 PM ET
The Hawks have been very fortunate in the last few years not having very many underachievers relative to salaries paid. Both of us can write out a long list of stiffs in the NHL who haven't 'earned' the salary they are being paid. Putting a value on Bickell makes no sense because for sure he is going to the bank with $8M large in the next 2 years. If he isn't banged up beyond repair, its Q's job to get the most out of him.
- RickJ



I'm fully aware that my valuation of Bickell has zero impact on his bank account and his on-ice contributions. We can all make excuses for why Bickell has substantially underachieved. Could it be that consistency was always his biggest issue and why he stayed in the AHL for several seasons? Could it be knee injuries? Could it be that he wasnt so great to begin with and playing with 19/88 helped JUST A BIT?? Whatever the reason, Bryan Bickell is no more than a 3rd line LW and at $4mil with 6 players making over $5mil (all earning it btw), that is a huge anchor for StanBo and the Hawks to be carrying around while trying to field a championship caliber roster.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Sep 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Has it started? Using the link but nothing going on...
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
Has it started? Using the link but nothing going on...
- Hank3Henshaw


10-15 min delay announced
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Sep 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
Has it started? Using the link but nothing going on...
- Hank3Henshaw

they said about 2:15 start
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Sep 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
10-15 min delay announced
- pdx2ord


OK cool. Thanks for the heads up.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
Looks like the TV coverage is on CSN+ instead - they just tweeted the channel finder info:

http://www.csnchicago.com/channel-finder
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Sep 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
I just heard the Hawks have hired/consulted a p.r. firm/consultant to help guide them through the Kane mess.

Also that they have no leeway to suspend him as he has not been charged. There are apparently some in the FO hoping he will voluntarily take a leave of absence in order to get things cleared up.

They want the negative publicity to die. Rosenbloom is right this morning. They are in a really tough spot.

- John Jaeckel

....and are sending the bill to Kane.

Agreed on Rosey, dead nuts on.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:14 PM ET
This is scintillating

Reminds me of Catechism, with cameras
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
10-15 min delay announced
- pdx2ord



Which may mean a late-breaking development
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm fully aware that my valuation of Bickell has zero impact on his bank account and his on-ice contributions. We can all make excuses for why Bickell has substantially underachieved. Could it be that consistency was always his biggest issue and why he stayed in the AHL for several seasons? Could it be knee injuries? Could it be that he wasnt so great to begin with and playing with 19/88 helped JUST A BIT?? Whatever the reason, Bryan Bickell is no more than a 3rd line LW and at $4mil with 6 players making over $5mil (all earning it btw), that is a huge anchor for StanBo and the Hawks to be carrying around while trying to field a championship caliber roster.
- EnzoD


Simple answer - he was in the right place at the right time and negotiated a contract at market price (or slightly lower) after the 2013 Cup. Stan may have blown it by letting him become a UFA instead of inking him mid season.

Would he get $4M in today's market - clearly not. Should he have been bought out - maybe. So its either play him or trade him for nothing and/or eat part of his salary. I like him when he plays well and bangs some bodies, but the limit on that is about 40 games per year.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Sep 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
Getting interesting...the stream started to play, then cut out.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Mex never said anything about Bicks, it was me. The fact is that after the 2013 season, he was labeled as a top 6 power forward and could have gotten $5 + Mil from another team. Nobody complained when he signed at $4mil with the Hawks. I agree that he is not playing up to his contract, but I was just making the point that this what have you done for me lately bs is a little unfair.
- Boisy12


I have from day 1 since he signed it. I watched Bickes float up to the 2013 playoffs, being a fringe player who threw checks but did not add a lot of other skill until 2013. Bicks cashed in and I felt (and still do) that a grinder under a mil can bring more consistency to the physical role. Think Matt Martin/Cal Clutterbuck/Kyle Clifford as examples. For $4 mil a year, Bicks needs to consistently bring the performaces he had in 2013. He doesn't so he is eating cap space that causes Chicago to trade players like Sharp, Saad, lose Oduya to free agency, while Bickell remains a $4 mil liability most nights.
Hawkeyes1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Patrick Kane WILL speak
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
The fans that truly follow the Hawks know that Bickell has value, but they are also aware that he consistently has stretches where (for whatever reason) he disappears. Bickell at $4 million per, is what he is...
- MexicoHawk


Agree... and if Mahoney grabs him it is because he thinks he can move him for more at the TDL.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Kane is there and will speak
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
This is scintillating

Reminds me of Catechism, with cameras

- John Jaeckel

Kane is in the confessional and the list of sins is time consuming.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Kane is there and will speak
- golfbard



Question is will he take questions?
bhawk1s
Joined: 06.27.2014

Sep 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Which may mean a late-breaking development
- John Jaeckel


Quite the drama !
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Which may mean a late-breaking development
- John Jaeckel



Or Kane could have just needed to use the washroom.
Dabearshawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
I feel like i'm watching The Omen they really need to turn the camera somewhere else.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Kane is there and will speak
- golfbard



From the cross? Cue the Monty Python skit
Q...argh
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Someone should point the camera to the dais. It's a bit strange pointing it towards a cross
- golfbard


Between the cross and those walls, I thought it was a Catholic hospital.
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