Honestly? You seem to be happy to see him go (if he does).

Back to the standard of excellence discussion. Did you see McDonough's comments? Brand management or actual higher standard? IS there a possibility one may include the other?
- tredbrta

The only thing I would say is that this is at least the third, possibly the fourth incident that Kane has found himself that questions his judgment. If the standard of excellence is so important, why does it take 3 or 4 incidents to make a change, regardless of the talent of the player?

How many public incidents did it take Boston to ship out Seguin?

My rant on the standard of excellence as marketing aside, I truly am saddened by this mess.

I lived in Chicago for 10 years and actually really loved watching that team grow up. I worked near the Daley Center and bought my kids Stanley Cup champs t-shirts from a street vendor because that's their hometown team. I watched the parade from my office window.

Patrick Kane's behavior is pure ass hattery. Hopefully, he will look back at this period in his life and realize exactly what he jacked up as a result of his stupidity. The Hawks have been really good to him. He's been really good for the Hawks. There aren't a lot of players that move on to other teams and continue to have the success that he's had. Wayne Gretzky, anyone?

Problem is, Duke, and this is where the comparison to Crawford falls flat, this is not the first time, this is not the second time.
- John Jaeckel

I do get it. I suppose it's just a case of me hoping for my scenario rather than believing it.

No, but flying out and saying "Wow, he's gone" is just a knee jerk reaction when you speculate its been leaning that way for some time now.

Had he been for sure on the way out, no way they let him speak to the press the day camp convenes
- FourFeathers773

Disagree. If he's at camp and they don't put him out there, the press will be more of a PITA this weekend, looking for access. They get it out of the way today and move on. At least they can control the narrative versus by some miracle, some reporter slips past security and sticks a mic in Kane's unsuspecting face.

He hasn't been charged with anything so if the Hawks don't invite him to camp, it's a violation of the CBA.

Ditto the NHL. They can put him on some commissioner's suspension list, but I don't think Bettman wants to fight Donald Fehr there.

The only thing they could have done, if they didn't want him there, was SUGGEST him request a leave of absence. Other, than that, they were powerless.

I do get it. I suppose it's just a case of me hoping for my scenario rather than believing it.
- DirkGraham

Well, you're clearly not alone.

Disagree. They CAN'T suspend him. But he hasn't been arrested. So he's there. But they also can't trade him right now. Who's going to make any kind of offer for him while he's under felony investigation.

So he may well be . . . for sure on the way out. Just not right now.
- John Jaeckel

Nobody said anything about suspending him.

This is about their decision to puppeteer him out to the media

Nobody does that with a player they are packaging out of town

JJ,
Do you think the 10-15 minute delay before the press conference could have been related to a trade deal?

I think they want you to be able to read the subtext both ways. IE, Kane is as good as gone and also that he's not. That way they can move forward nimbly whichever way they wind up having to go with him. Also, making Kane own up to his deficiency and then following it up with MCD's not so subtle barbs could be their way of scaring the poop out of Kane about being moved, sort of like a very public "This is you last chance, bumhole!"
- DirkGraham

He mentioned "the ability to change and evolve really defines our Industry " and then went on to discuses the loss of 6 players from last season . Seem pretty clear to me he was not taking about Kane in anyway .

After listening to all teh Notre Dame press


Singer Harry Belafonte said it best:
said it best:
”It was clear as mud,
but et covered de ground,
and the confusion made me brain go ‘round…”

Nobody said anything about suspending him.

This is about their decision to puppeteer him out to the media

Nobody does that with a player they are packaging out of town
- FourFeathers773

THEY HAD TO do a controlled media event, and now watch, nothing. No one will get near him. They had to do a controlled release of information to satisfy the press.

JJ,
Do you think the 10-15 minute delay before the press conference could have been related to a trade deal?
- Hank3Henshaw

No

He mentioned "the ability to change and evolve really defines our Industry " and then went on to discuses the loss of 6 players from last season . Seem pretty clear to me he was not taking about Kane in anyway .
- oldduffman

Why? Because he didn't say "this is about the jackass we just signed to an $84 million deal"?

Caveat emptor. You're going to believe what you want.

JJ,
Do you think the 10-15 minute delay before the press conference could have been related to a trade deal?
- Hank3Henshaw

Honestly, reading the script and getting PR advice on handling questions

Id bet dollars to donuts

So, really nothing about the situation released like his agent stated earlier?

Let the circus begin.

That's what I'm thinking.
- John Jaeckel

Really looks like Kane was supposed to come to the press conference with a present and couldn't deliver it. No way he should have been making a statement on his own unless it was to say it was over. No attorney. No agent.

Something upset the entire group - hard to believe it was anything but the settlement falling apart or being delayed. They rightfully blamed Kane for the awkwardness and couldn't hide it.

No
- John Jaeckel

OK. I was just curious. I know sometimes those deals come up last minute.

Nobody does that with a player they are packaging out of town
- FourFeathers773

What if they're laying the psychological groundwork for the fans to accept a trade if Kane isn't charged?

Yesterday, the last time saw Kane on TV, he was scoring a cup-clinching goal. Hard to sell a trade to your fanbase.

Today, he's refusing to answer questions about being accused of rape. Much easier to get rid of that guy.

So, really nothing about the situation released like his agent stated earlier?

Let the circus begin.
- carcus

Right. Because it's all over now. (red font)

What if they're laying the psychological groundwork for the fans to accept a trade if Kane isn't charged?

Yesterday, the last time saw Kane on TV, he was scoring a cup-clinching goal. Hard to sell a trade to your fanbase.

Today, he's refusing to answer questions about being accused of rape. Much easier to get rid of that guy.
- darklighter

I'll even go as far as saying he likely won't be charged—and they will still trade him. Why? They don't want to deal with something like this again in a year or two. And he's already had his final warning.

Why? Because he didn't say "this is about the jackass we just signed to an $84 million deal"?

Caveat emptor. You're going to believe what you want.
- John Jaeckel

And you're going to believe what YOU want as well. It's pretty clear you don't care for the guy. Most of this board has succumbed to the JJ mind trust/hive mind mentality. God forbid we wait for any concrete information or facts to come out. My "independent sources" tell me this should be wrapped up shortly.

Let's play hockey.

THEY HAD TO do a controlled media event, and now watch, nothing. No one will get near him. They had to do a controlled release of information to satisfy the press.
- John Jaeckel

Based on everyone's comments on his performance in a controlled event, how would he do on the stand being cross examined by an aggressive DA? If there are settlement discussions, the price just went way up.

Really looks like Kane was supposed to come to the press conference with a present and couldn't deliver it. No way he should have been making a statement on his own unless it was to say it was over. No attorney. No agent.

Something upset the entire group - hard to believe it was anything but the settlement falling apart or being delayed. They rightfully blamed Kane for the awkwardness and couldn't hide it.
- tredbrta

Or, as I heard, they wanted Kane to voluntarily announce he wad taking a LOA to not distract form the team and work this stuff out. Think about it. If they did, and he refused (which was his right, but maybe not the smartest choice), what do you think McD said to him (with Rocky's full blessing)?

Well, you're clearly not alone.
- John Jaeckel

One might argue that you,Mr. Jaeckel, have had your own agenda/slant to the Kane story from the beginning. Why do you want/expect him gone so badly??

Man, the look on Kane's face shows him being scared, embarrassed and ashamed.
I for one think he's a good kid who enjoys his life outside of hockey like anybody does away from work. Probably a bit too much, but it is what it is. He believes he will be exonerated from this, so if nothing happened, nothing happened. Just another night out on the town during his own personal time.

Now for the Hawks contemplating trading him. I dont believe the marketing BS that McCub says, since EVERY league, EVERY team, etc. says the SAME EXACT THING. We hold everyone to High standards, yada yada yada. There are individuals everywhere that have a dark cloud hanging over them in every organization. What skeletons are in his closet???

So why would some team trade FOR HIM if the Hawks dont want him anymore? Is that saying that the other team has a lower standard than the Blackhawks Organization. I just think it's BS. Stan is like his second father, who better knows him than Bowman and who better to have him correct his personal life and be a mentor now? And now Stan may be asked to trade him? That's crap. Why do they employ the great Bobby Hull then? Riddle me that? And WHO asked Bobby to come back?? uhh, yeah it was John McCub. Nobody ever brings that up? A little hypocritical if you ask me.

Time heals all wounds and Kane WILL show his remorse and prove to his teamates, his family and the Blackhawks Organization that he is not that type of guy. I'm glad Kane had the balls to sit by the douche reporters, whether or not he was forced to by management, but he did what he had to do. I commend him! Nobody has the balls to ask puppetmaster McD that sort of thing.

Go Hawks!

Based on everyone's comments on his performance in a controlled event, how would he do on the stand being cross examined by an aggressive DA? If there are settlement discussions, the price just went way up.
- Canada Cup

During a cross examination Kane would actually speak and give details of his version of the situation. Addressing the media for the first time, even if he's innocent would be an uncomfortable situation.

Based on everyone's comments on his performance in a controlled event, how would he do on the stand being cross examined by an aggressive DA? If there are settlement discussions, the price just went way up.
- Canada Cup

This is a great post