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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
I'd also like to know when the guys he mentioned are due for a new contract. Because the next one for each will be considerably higher, I'd imagine.
- funmaster18


Seabrook is a UFA next summer and will likely get $7m+ so it might be his last season in Chicago.

Keith might be on the best of all the cap circumventing deals. Him or Jeff Carter.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
On to one of the good guys, here's an interview that Leafs Lunch did today with Simon Gagne

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/t...ck-on-his-career-1.361412
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
Seabrook is a UFA next summer and will likely get $7m+ so it might be his last season in Chicago.

Keith might be on the best of all the cap circumventing deals. Him or Jeff Carter.

- Feanor


Not sure it's a circumvention, but the Ryan McDonagh deal is a sweet one, too.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
I think innocent until proven guilty. So as long as there is only an investigation, the player should be able to attend camp, even though I agree with MJL that it is in poor taste.

If there are formal charges brought forward, then I think at that point the player should be suspended indefinitely until a verdict is reached. At that point, a long term decision is made.

- funmaster18


Here is the can of worms. Even before charges were brought against Mike Richards, his contract was blown up. We know that the Voynov situation was treated differently. Is Chicago going to tear up Kane's contract? Don't hold your breath.

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
Hell, I may just say I've been gang-raped by the entire Eastern Conference.
- jmatchett383


Devils 2015-2016
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?

- SuperSchennBros


Claude Giroux
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:38 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?

- SuperSchennBros


Akeson
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
If Hakstol's lack of NHL experience was the issue, why did you bring up Brett Hextall? The two things are unrelated.

Hiring a college coach he barely knew was a very bold move. Just as bold as Toronto hiring a president who had no experience running an NHL team.

- Feanor

How's Chip Kelly's lack of NFL experience working out?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'd also like to know when the guys he mentioned are due for a new contract. Because the next one for each will be considerably higher, I'd imagine.
- funmaster18



Not to mention that the only reason Keith's cap hit is 5.538M is because there is a bunch of years on the end of low money, and the deal was front loaded. If we want to make an apples to apples comparison, the first 6 years of Keith's deal were worth 46,750,000, which would translate to an AAV of 7,791,666.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?

- SuperSchennBros


Giroux.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
How's Chip Kelly's lack of NFL experience working out?
- 2Real


It's working out just fine. I hear it can bench 420 pounds.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:44 PM ET
I agree, but I think there is something to be said for getting as many of the questions out of the way now, because once they go on the road, he'll have other teams' media to deal with, etc.

i think it's going to be a circus no matter what.

- johndewar


A team's PR people can handle that. Reporters and beats should know that if there is an ongoing investigation, Kane won't, and can't comment. All of that should be off limits to the media, after they hold this press conference.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 4:50 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?

- SuperSchennBros


Giroux
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 16 @ 4:52 PM ET
Thank you to the two gentlemen who responded. I love Jake but based on this summer of threads I've read, I thought I was losing my mind. I expect Jake to remain an elite winger this season but his season reminds me of when Corey Perry when from scoring 30 regularly to 50. There were questions if Perry is better than Getzlaf. He isn't.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
Here is the can of worms. Even before charges were brought against Mike Richards, his contract was blown up. We know that the Voynov situation was treated differently. Is Chicago going to tear up Kane's contract? Don't hold your breath.


- MJL


One difference between th Richards is the Kings may have known he was arrested where Kane was being investigated. I get what you're saying though
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
Jiri Tlusty signs with the Devils.

Oh, and NJ brings in Tyler Kennedy on a PTO
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 16 @ 5:12 PM ET
I have a question that I'm hoping all participates in answering but I'm hoping I'm to get the short one to two word response, instead of the long response.

Who is better? Who would you take right now over the other? Claude Giroux or Jake Voracek?

- SuperSchennBros


G
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Sep 16 @ 5:14 PM ET
Giroux
- johndewar

Thanks to you too
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 16 @ 5:15 PM ET
G
- funmaster18

And you. Just making sure I'm not losing it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
One difference between th Richards is the Kings may have known he was arrested where Kane was being investigated. I get what you're saying though
- funmaster18


You can be arrested, and still be innocent.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
You can be arrested, and still be innocent.
- MJL


if a cop arrests you for possessing drugs, it usually means they are being held illegally. Unless you have a prescription. If he had that, why would he be arrested? Not sure how you come out innocent there
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Sep 16 @ 5:26 PM ET
if a cop arrests you for possessing drugs, it usually means they are being held illegally. Unless you have a prescription. If he had that, why would he be arrested? Not sure how you come out innocent there
- funmaster18


you can be arrested, still be guilty and also still not be convicted.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
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Sep 16 @ 5:27 PM ET
And you. Just making sure I'm not losing it
- SuperSchennBros


SuperSchennBros
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Sep 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
You can be arrested, and still be innocent.
- MJL

I've been arrested and found innocent but drugs is still pretty cut and dry.
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