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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
My only concern is that there is only so much room in front of the net. Both plot and horny cant be there. So if they are on the same line are you throwing one guy off his game by making him change? I'm sure it can be fixed, but its just a case of using everyone to their best abilities. Its not a big thing. just something to watch.
- Zac_O


Hornqvist is positionally sound so I'm not worried about him being out of position. Not sure on Plotnikov yet.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
Honestly can't wait for the season to start to watch Plotnikov. I'm super curious about this kid.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:28 PM ET
did we sign kennedy yet?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
did we sign kennedy yet?
- ChrisMS

just waiting on the scuderi trade... that way we can sign him to a 3yr/2.2 mil deal like last time....
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
did we sign kennedy yet?
- ChrisMS

Haha get out of here man.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:41 PM ET
just waiting on the scuderi trade... that way we can sign him to a 3yr/2.2 mil deal like last time....
- nh4442


maybe we can pay him in peanuts.... like the shape of his cute little peanut nose
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:42 PM ET
Haha get out of here man.
- Victoro311


plot-cullen-kennedy!

2 way deal... I wouldny mind that experience playing in wbs scranton when fehr comes back.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:42 PM ET
just waiting on the scuderi trade... that way we can sign him to a 3yr/2.2 mil deal like last time....
- nh4442

Naw, that $$$ is going to Dups extension. Haha
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
Naw, that $$$ is going to Dups extension. Haha
- kgrpitt


dupes next assistant gm!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:45 PM ET
plot-cullen-kennedy!

2 way deal... I wouldny mind that experience playing in wbs scranton when fehr comes back.

- ChrisMS

Any extra roster spot should be decided by a battle between Sundqvist, Rust, Wilson, and Sheary. What's the point of having cheap young contracts if we're gonna sign washed up never-has-beens like Manbearpig.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:51 PM ET
Any extra roster spot should be decided by a battle between Sundqvist, Rust, Wilson, and Sheary. What's the point of having cheap young contracts if we're gonna sign washed up never-has-beens like Manbearpig.
- Victoro311


rust eh, wilson too injured to tell, sund isnt starting up and is hyped up to much. he may be good but it is like that move that everyone was waiting for and then its only good not great and your like, "eh" sheary is a ?. I would love to see TK signed to a PTO to compete... if he beats the kids, cool... if not cool. He could be like a tom Kostopolous. vet guy in WBS that might earn a call up. and tk wasnt a never has been.... they dont score 22 goals in the nhl. he is definately a borderline nhler at this time though. anyone offer kopecky a pto yet? he might be another final winger to look at
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:57 PM ET
Hi
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 31 @ 5:58 PM ET
Hi
- pensfan024



jag off
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:23 PM ET
ohhhhhhhhh put that in you pipe guy
- pensfan024





#scudshipcheckdestruction
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:25 PM ET
Mhm. Think about what you're saying guy. Do you honestly think a line that boasts Crosby and Kessel together will have a negative zone differential? Kinda hard to score on them when the puck is in the offensive zone over 70% of the time they're on the ice.
- Victoro311




What the (frank) is going in here this morning - (frank)in language!!!


#scudshipcheckdestruction
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:27 PM ET
To play devil's advocate, you can have all the zone time you want. But you need to turn that zone time into shots and those shots into goals. If the other team only has the puck 15% of the time but limits your scoring chances and gets 5 quality shots past your goalie, you're not going to win most nights (on any given night).
- jmatchett383


Very good point, something Analytics people too often forget - goals are much better than shots & possession!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:30 PM ET


What the (frank) is going in here this morning - (frank)in language!!!


#scudshipcheckdestruction

- Aussiepenguin


Aussie, is "guy" a curse word in Australia or are you just pissed off we're not saying "mate"
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:31 PM ET
We'll see...he's a great player from the red line in. Not sure if you watched him in Toronto...it's the NHL don't give me the crap he had no one to play with.

I'm hoping he can find success in Pitts...but a leopard doesn't change it's spots...he could care less about his own end and ususally is headed for the red line when his own D has the puck behind his their own net. Or he gets it on his side boards and leaves it to avoid contact.

I like Pitts...I hope Kessel proves me wrong...but I yelled at him for 5 years as a Leaf...now I can watch with a little less care now he's a Pen

- Garnie


Honestly, is this the best team he's played for in those 5 years? I remember in the Olympics when he was buzzing around the ice so dangerous & a threat most shifts. It's amazing what happens to a player when he is surrounded by good/very good player, usually gets them a little more enthusiastic.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:32 PM ET
Very good point, something Analytics people too often forget - goals are much better than shots & possession!
- Aussiepenguin

He was taking about scoring chances (corsi) a opposed to zone time which I was talking about. Not exactly a win for you and your anti-analytics.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:33 PM ET
Aussie, is "guy" a curse word in Australia or are you just pissed off we're not saying "mate"
- Victoro311


Pretty sure we all agreed that 'Guy' was a no go - I'm happy to review if you want to submit your documentation.

Now 'mate' can actually be used in an aggressive manner also - "you know what I'm (frank)ing talking about........MATE?".

#scudshipcheckdestruction
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:36 PM ET
He was taking about scoring chances (corsi) a opposed to zone time which I was talking about. Not exactly a win for you and your anti-analytics.
- Victoro311


I'm not anti Analytics, just not sold on some of it's statistical formulas at the current time. I'm actually a stats person who loves reviewing certain types of stats - Corsi is like a lady boy though!

Edit: you can still have 99% of the zone time & a 100 shots on goal - I'll have 1 shot 1 % with 1 goal!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 31 @ 6:38 PM ET
Very good point, something Analytics people too often forget - goals are much better than shots & possession!
- Aussiepenguin


Not true. Anyone that has a basic understanding of analytics knows that finding positive goal differentials is the objective. The problem is that it takes a very long time to get a solid sample to predict relative goal differentials for forwards and really never happens at a better rate than possession for dmen.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:38 PM ET
I'm not anti Analytics, just not sold on some of it's statistical formulas at the current time. I'm actually a stats person who loves reviewing certain types of stats - Corsi is like a lady boy though!
- Aussiepenguin

Hey man, she males are in these days. Caitlin Jenner's situation is getting more news time the situation in the Middle East these days.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:44 PM ET
Hey man, she males are in these days. Caitlin Jenner's situation is getting more news time the situation in the Middle East these days.
- Victoro311


You've nearly made me go back to work - I cannot stand that family. It's ALWAYS all over the 'news' web sites here - 1 or more of that family!!

Thankfully now we have Jarryd Hayne making good so he's our #1 news topic - but those others.......... !!!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 31 @ 6:47 PM ET
Not true. Anyone that has a basic understanding of analytics knows that finding positive goal differentials is the objective. The problem is that it takes a very long time to get a solid sample to predict relative goal differentials for forwards and really never happens at a better rate than possession for dmen.
- jfkst1


So how do you get a positive goal differential?

If you have possession & lots of shots on goal with zero goals but your opponent has little possession low shots & a goal who has the positive goal differential?

Possession & shots on goal do not guarantee goals - they provide the opportunity to score a goal.

More shots does not = more goals.
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