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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:13 PM ET
Who was he playing with most of the year? hmmm, that's right, he had to cover a whole lot of ice.
- LeafMan

Which he couldn't do, because he lacks footspeed.

And then he had hernia surgery.

Let's see how he looks in camp.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Aug 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
I want him top pairing but having Phaneuf next to him will not help. They cannot and should not be paired together.
- LeafMan


oh hell no.. you dont want phaneuf babysitting.. you want him showcased.. so they can move him
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
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Aug 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
Which he couldn't do, because he lacks footspeed.

And then he had hernia surgery.

Let's see how he looks in camp.

- Atomic Wedgie

If you can trade him for assets, sure.

I want to see Percy, Granberg or Loov get a chance this year.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:15 PM ET
I want him top pairing but having Phaneuf next to him will not help. They cannot and should not be paired together.
- LeafMan


I vehemently disagree with this

They can and will play together, and both will do well

Whose crystal ball will prove superior?
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
If you can trade him for assets, sure.

I want to see Percy, Granberg or Loov get a chance this year.

- LeafMan


Problem with AHL graduates is they end up with Phaneuf by default, then everyone blames him for being awful.

Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
I vehemently disagree with this

They can and will play together, and both will do well

Whose crystal ball will prove superior?

- TheThrill


well phaneuf has proven time and time again he sucks so i am betting on LM
Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
i cannot wait til phaneuf is gone.. then all this stupid defending of him can stop
LeafMan
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Aug 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
I vehemently disagree with this

They can and will play together, and both will do well

Whose crystal ball will prove superior?

- TheThrill

All you are doing by this is setting Rielly back, he needs to be the top guy on the pairing, with Phaneuf, he can't be that guy, it won't work to his benefit, imo.
TheThrill
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Aug 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
well phaneuf has proven time and time again he sucks so i am betting on LM
- Dozzer


has he now?

and who has he played with that was any good?

That's right! His best partner was Franson and you know as well as I do that he's garbage
Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
All you are doing by this is setting Rielly back, he needs to be the top guy on the pairing, with Phaneuf, he can't be that guy, it won't work to his benefit, imo.
- LeafMan


their argument would have had tavares starting on the third line if the leafs had drafted him
TheThrill
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Aug 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
i cannot wait til phaneuf is gone.. then all this stupid defending of him can stop
- Dozzer


I think the blasting of Dion is what is stupid.

Opinions like bumholes, they are
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
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Aug 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
The leafs best D will be (in order)

Gardiner
Rielly
who cares

Once the Carlyle stink if completely off Gardiner, he will smell better and shine


Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
has he now?

and who has he played with that was any good?

That's right! His best partner was Franson and you know as well as I do that he's garbage

- TheThrill


weak argument

he is paid to be the guy who makes people better.. not to need someone to make him look good

seriously.. i laugh at that particular argument its so weak
LeafMan
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Aug 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
their argument would have had tavares starting on the third line if the leafs had drafted him
- Dozzer

It's their opinion and it's fine but I see no benefit in Rielly's development to be paired with Phaneuf, none.
Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
I think the blasting of Dion is what is stupid.

Opinions like bumholes, they are

- TheThrill


if dion was sooooo good.. why did calgary move him for next to nothing?

queue the absurd conspiracy theories
TheThrill
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Aug 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
their argument would have had tavares starting on the third line if the leafs had drafted him
- Dozzer


Can I see the logical deconstruction of this statement?

For real, I don't follow.

Tavares would have been on 1st line by default, because the Leafs roster stunk (and still does)
TheThrill
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Aug 27 @ 3:22 PM ET
weak argument

he is paid to be the guy who makes people better.. not to need someone to make him look good

seriously.. i laugh at that particular argument its so weak

- Dozzer


That's amazing.

You laugh at a weak argument while providing one just as, if not weaker.

Paid to make people better? That's a thing now?

Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:22 PM ET
Can I see the logical deconstruction of this statement?

For real, I don't follow.

Tavares would have been on 1st line by default, because the Leafs roster stunk (and still does)

- TheThrill


as does the leafs D

so apply it to Rielly
Atomic Wedgie
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Aug 27 @ 3:23 PM ET
If you can trade him for assets, sure.

I want to see Percy, Granberg or Loov get a chance this year.

- LeafMan

With every passing day, I think the possibility of young kids getting cups of coffee with the Leafs this year is dwindling.

You look at the off-season moves - one year deals to plug holes, signing journeymen to $1 contracts.

P.A. Parenteau? Why?

I don't hate the Mattias signing.

But bringing back Winnick?

Matt Hunwick?

I think the Leafs are the Leafs, and the Marlies are the Marlies, and never the 'twain shall meet.

TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:23 PM ET
The leafs best D will be (in order)

Gardiner
Rielly
who cares

Once the Carlyle stink if completely off Gardiner, he will smell better and shine

- senstroll



I really hope so. But it's hard to see that at this point
Dozzer
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Aug 27 @ 3:23 PM ET
That's amazing.

You laugh at a weak argument while providing one just as, if not weaker.

Paid to make people better? That's a thing now?

- TheThrill


name one other number one D in the league who is effective that needs a all star partner to be good.. name one.

not one who has one.. one who needs one
LeafMan
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Aug 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
With every passing day, I think the possibility of young kids getting cups of coffee with the Leafs this year is dwindling.

You look at the off-season moves - one year deals to plug holes, signing journeymen to $1 contracts.

P.A. Parenteau? Why?

I don't hate the Mattias signing.

But bringing back Winnick?

Matt Hunwick?

I think the Leafs are the Leafs, and the Marlies are the Marlies, and never the 'twain shall meet.

- Atomic Wedgie

But this Percy's third year as well as Granberg, they should be ready for some games or a extended look.
Atomic Wedgie
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Aug 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
i cannot wait til Larry Murphy is gone.. then all this stupid defending of him can stop
- Dozzer

Yep.
TheThrill
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Aug 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
as does the leafs D

so apply it to Rielly

- Dozzer


If I apply it to Rielly, then that makes him de facto top pair, not 3rd pair?

Come on man, 3pm brick wall here. I am legitimately confused
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 27 @ 3:25 PM ET
name one other number one D in the league who is effective that needs a all star partner to be good.. name one.

not one who has one.. one who needs one

- Dozzer


Whoa, whoa, whoa

Nobody said Dion was a number 1.

I just don't think he's this god awful pylon that everyone else does
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