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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
Sorry, too soon?
- jmatchett383


More like, just wrong
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
They've been trying to give Vinny away for two summers now. Itd likely be a situation like Grossmann, where the other team's primary focus was getting Schenn & being willing to take on Lecavalier, like Arizona agreed to assume Pronger to get Grossmann for Gagner & a lower pick.
- Jsaquella


Heroin in his luggage is a problem solver. just sayin....

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
How are the Flyers the Bills of the NHL. That's the burning question.
- Giroux_Is_God


Jeff "high and wide right" Carter
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
Jeff "high and wide right" Carter
- PhillySportsGuy

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
Heroin in his luggage is a problem solver. just sayin....


- BiggE


You'll all be eating crow when he bounces back this year with 10 goals and 16 assists
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 24 @ 2:21 PM ET
Heroin in his luggage is a problem solver. just sayin....


- BiggE


It would be, assuming the Kings don't get knicked with Richards' grievance.

I just read back, and I don't like the original trade much either. I like Skinner, but he's coming off a bad season-18g/13A/31 points in 77 games. Hell Vinny had 20 points in 57 games.

Skinner is younger and a better skater, but at $5.75mm and a longer term, I'd want more of a sure thing if I'm tossing in a 1st & a 3rd. Plus, after next season, they're not getting any cap benefit, Skinner's deal is bigger and longer than Vinny's
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 24 @ 2:26 PM ET
How are the Flyers the Bills of the NHL. That's the burning question.
- Giroux_Is_God

don't be dissing on Shady's city
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Aug 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
It would be, assuming the Kings don't get knicked with Richards' grievance.

I just read back, and I don't like the original trade much either. I like Skinner, but he's coming off a bad season-18g/13A/31 points in 77 games. Hell Vinny had 20 points in 57 games.

Skinner is younger and a better skater, but at $5.75mm and a longer term, I'd want more of a sure thing if I'm tossing in a 1st & a 3rd. Plus, after next season, they're not getting any cap benefit, Skinner's deal is bigger and longer than Vinny's

- Jsaquella


obviously whoever proposed that trade wears red and gray tinted glasses
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
Flyers can do better than that.
- Streit2ThePoint

no doubt. that's why vinny is still here.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:30 PM ET
It would be, assuming the Kings don't get knicked with Richards' grievance.

I just read back, and I don't like the original trade much either. I like Skinner, but he's coming off a bad season-18g/13A/31 points in 77 games. Hell Vinny had 20 points in 57 games.

Skinner is younger and a better skater, but at $5.75mm and a longer term, I'd want more of a sure thing if I'm tossing in a 1st & a 3rd. Plus, after next season, they're not getting any cap benefit, Skinner's deal is bigger and longer than Vinny's

- Jsaquella


Yeah, like I said before, If I could get Skinner for just Vinny, L Schenn and a 3rd, I'd do the deal. But I'd be really leery bout giving up more for a guy with concussion issues who looked to be struggling last season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yeah, like I said before, If I could get Skinner for just Vinny, L Schenn and a 3rd, I'd do the deal. But I'd be really leery bout giving up more for a guy with concussion issues who looked to be struggling last season.
- BiggE


Yeah, the contract & concussion issues with Skinner are enough of a red flag for me to say nope, even to Vinny, Schenn & a 3rd, TBH. I think they might get a 2nd for Schenn at the TDL
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah, the contract & concussion issues with Skinner are enough of a red flag for me to say nope, even to Vinny, Schenn & a 3rd, TBH. I think they might get a 2nd for Schenn at the TDL
- Jsaquella


The reason I'd make that deal is basically because if, and it's a big if, Skinner can stay healthy, he's a much better player than Vinny or L Schenn at this point. But, all in all, I really don't see a deal happening.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 24 @ 2:41 PM ET
AMac is only the answer if the question is:

Who's the Flyers most overpaid dman that should have never been acquired and re-signed.


- BiggE


Incorrect Sir! AMac is also the answer if the question is who is an absolute solid second pair defenseman.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 24 @ 2:44 PM ET
Incorrect Sir! AMac is also the answer if the question is who is an absolute solid second pair defenseman.
- PLindbergh31

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 24 @ 2:47 PM ET

- BiggE


You'll all be eating crow when he bounces back this year with 1 goal and 1.6 assists
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 24 @ 2:57 PM ET
How are the Flyers the Bills of the NHL. That's the burning question.
- Giroux_Is_God


By losing the last four championship series they were involved in? (actually six)
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
Gudas is Schenn.
Schenn is Gudas.
Gudas is a man.

- jmatchett383

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
By losing the last four championship series they were involved in? (actually six)
- Scoob


Oh right like 25 years ago when the Bills lost superbowl like 11 times in a row? Forgot about that. Before my time.




Oh sorry, I was just thinking of the last time the Bills were relevant since I was born. The Flyers have been relevant for 18 (?) out of the last 21 seasons they've played.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 24 @ 3:13 PM ET
Your mom would like you to please go upstairs and clean your room now.
- BiggE



Wow.. must be getting close to hockey season again as the Pens trolls have gone off their medication..
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
Oh right like 25 years ago when the Bills lost superbowl like 11 times in a row? Forgot about that. Before my time.

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Oh sorry, I was just thinking of the last time the Bills were relevant since I was born. The Flyers have been relevant for 18 (?) out of the last 21 seasons they've played.

- Giroux_Is_God


That was a sizable upset in that Super Bowl 25 years ago in Tampa. The Bills were a 7 point favorite, and the Eagles beat them with their backup QB.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
Wow.. must be getting close to hockey season again as the Pens trolls have gone off their medication..
- Hextall271


Teem two beet
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 24 @ 3:39 PM ET

- jak521


lol
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Aug 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 24 @ 4:31 PM ET
www.phillyvoice.com
- flyerscup2011


"fair weather fans" - Jimmy Rollins
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
"fair weather fans" - Jimmy Rollins
- PhillySportsGuy

I do enjoy a 78 degree day at the beach
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