someone forgets we have Hagg, Morin, Sanheim, and Provorov to start with coming up
- 2Real

In order for schenn to be moved a physical stay at home defenseman on a team that lacks any resemblance of physicality outside him and gudas doesn't make much sense especially not in a playoff race. The only way that would make sense is if morin is in the nhl and playing well and taken the roster place away from schenn.

In order for streit to be moved a top pp unit offensive defenseman who is a big part of our special teams and offense and our hero unit on a team who struggled to generate forward puck movement from the back end we would need mdz to take over top pp unit and shoulder most hero duty units AND we'd need a secondary offensive defenseman to step up and play very well ie: medevedev gost macdonald!?.

Also don't discount streit is a very big part of our leadership. Losing him could mean much more than statistics.

So can they be moved ? Yeah. But until we see where this team is I find it extremely hard to guarentee both of their departure. Especially during a playoff race. I think that depends though on where the team is in the standings and if our prospects prove their ready for the nhl.

In order for schenn to be moved a physical stay at home defenseman on a team that lacks any resemblance of physicality outside him and gudas doesn't make much sense especially not in a playoff race. The only way that would make sense is if morin is in the nhl and playing well and taken the roster place away from schenn.

In order for streit to be moved a top pp unit offensive defenseman who is a big part of our special teams and offense and our hero unit on a team who struggled to generate forward puck movement from the back end we would need mdz to take over top pp unit and shoulder most hero duty units AND we'd need a secondary offensive defenseman to step up and play very well ie: medevedev gost macdonald!?.

Also don't discount streit is a very big part of our leadership. Losing him could mean much more than statistics.

So can they be moved ? Yeah. But until we see where this team is I find it extremely hard to guarentee both of their departure. Especially during a playoff race. I think that depends though on where the team is in the standings and if our prospects prove their ready for the nhl.
- Tfaehner

Gudas is a cheap replacement to Schenn. So, if a deal can be done, Schenn is easy to move. It's also important to give the young guys some ice time when they're ready. We aren't going to win the cup this year or next, so keeping Streit and losing him for nothing makes no sense.

Gudas is a cheap replacement to Schenn. So, if a deal can be done, Schenn is easy to move. It's also important to give the young guys some ice time when they're ready. We aren't going to win the cup this year or next, so keeping Streit and losing him for nothing makes no sense.
- 2Real

Turn Streit into a 1st rounder next draft and get another winger to be on track to be making a splash when the team should be firing on all cylinders. I can get behind that.

Gudas is a cheap replacement to Schenn. So, if a deal can be done, Schenn is easy to move. It's also important to give the young guys some ice time when they're ready. We aren't going to win the cup this year or next, so keeping Streit and losing him for nothing makes no sense.
- 2Real

Gudas is not in the same class as schenn. He's not proven to be and until he does you can't compare the 2. Also without schenn AND gudas we lack physical tough defenseman. Gudas remember is replacing grossman not schenn. So losing schenn you destroy any resemblance of being able to clear the net. Capitals are one team in mind who would be able to camp on us all day.

Second streit is a good leader you need somebody at least one solid vet to be able to help these kids develop. Who is your veteran whose going to help these kids ? Schultz ? Cmon. I'm not saying I'd be mad to see him go for a coburn like deal just saying I don't think you see the big picture.

Also who of our prospects is so damn nhl ready you have to have them up now or were waiting too long ? I think if anything our impatient fan base thinks their ready. Morin still gets turned around often. Gost was not ready when he was called up last year though he showed glimpses of what he could be. Hagg was rocky at best in the ahl there is nothing he's done as of yet to believe he's ready. Provorov is an unknown verse nhl talent much is sanheim as well but most experts have provorov another year and sanheim another 2 away from being ready. So please tell.me how trading away multiple veterans is the answer ?

I'd be happy to see schenn go at tdl if morin is capable of playing 3rd pairing and pk minutes. I don't see a streit replacement unless provorov wows everyone and has an ekblad like rookie year. I'd much rather consider him our young guys mentor.

Gudas is not in the same class as schenn. He's not proven to be and until he does you can't compare the 2. Also without schenn AND gudas we lack physical tough defenseman. Gudas remember is replacing grossman not schenn. So losing schenn you destroy any resemblance of being able to clear the net. Capitals are one team in mind who would be able to camp on us all day.

Second streit is a good leader you need somebody at least one solid vet to be able to help these kids develop. Who is your veteran whose going to help these kids ? Schultz ? Cmon. I'm not saying I'd be mad to see him go for a coburn like deal just saying I don't think you see the big picture.

Also who of our prospects is so damn nhl ready you have to have them up now or were waiting too long ? I think if anything our impatient fan base thinks their ready. Morin still gets turned around often. Gost was not ready when he was called up last year though he showed glimpses of what he could be. Hagg was rocky at best in the ahl there is nothing he's done as of yet to believe he's ready. Provorov is an unknown verse nhl talent much is sanheim as well but most experts have provorov another year and sanheim another 2 away from being ready. So please tell.me how trading away multiple veterans is the answer ?

I'd be happy to see schenn go at tdl if morin is capable of playing 3rd pairing and pk minutes. I don't see a streit replacement unless provorov wows everyone and has an ekblad like rookie year. I'd much rather consider him our young guys mentor.
- Tfaehner

Trade streit at the deadline. Pickup another streit type in UFA. Keep shuffling the deck to get picks/prospects for another year or two. Streits come and go

Trade streit at the deadline. Pickup another streit type in UFA. Keep shuffling the deck to get picks/prospects for another year or two. Streits come and go
- Just5

What ufa was available that fits his role ? Locker room leader, top 10 point scorer? I'm not saying don't trade him. Not this season but next season trade deadline if you got at least 2 prospects up I say trade him before he's an ufa and get as much as you can for him. Completely agree. The argument was that he is guarenteed gone this year. Why is that a guarentee ? There's no truth to that. I don't think anyone is untouchable on this d. But I don't think hextall has a for sale sign up either.

Trade streit at the deadline. Pickup another streit type in UFA. Keep shuffling the deck to get picks/prospects for another year or two. Streits come and go
- Just5

Sounds so simple.

Sounds so simple.
- SuperSchennBros

Wasn't trading Coburn and signing Medvedev easy?

What ufa was available that fits his role ? Locker room leader, top 10 point scorer? I'm not saying don't trade him. Not this season but next season trade deadline if you got at least 2 prospects up I say trade him before he's an ufa and get as much as you can for him. Completely agree. The argument was that he is guarenteed gone this year. Why is that a guarentee ? There's no truth to that. I don't think anyone is untouchable on this d. But I don't think hextall has a for sale sign up either.
- Tfaehner

If they are a bubble team or worse going into the deadline is guarantee the for sale sign would be up just like last year. If streit's production is similar to last year do you really think Hexy will pass on the compensation they'd get for locker room leadership?

Fare Thee Well, Rob Zepp

Wasn't trading Coburn and signing Medvedev easy?
- Just5

Wait: Are you saying that they're the same player?

If they are a bubble team or worse going into the deadline is guarantee the for sale sign would be up just like last year. If streit's production is similar to last year do you really think Hexy will pass on the compensation they'd get for locker room leadership?
- Just5

They traded a guy who hadn't played for them at all last season and was retiring at the end the year so he had a chance at a cup. The only piece they moved was coburn - 1 player. That's hardly a for sale sign. They may have been listening but every gm listens. If hextall gets an out of this world offer for streit I'm sure he'd take it. But there is no GUARENTEE which is what the argument was about that streit would be gone. And yes leadership is important that's why he publicly spoke about it last year several times. Having zero leadership or veteran presence on our blue line is a scary world to bring rookies in to.

They traded a guy who hadn't played for them at all last season and was retiring at the end the year so he had a chance at a cup. The only piece they moved was coburn - 1 player. That's hardly a for sale sign. They may have been listening but every gm listens. If hextall gets an out of this world offer for streit I'm sure he'd take it. But there is no GUARENTEE which is what the argument was about that streit would be gone. And yes leadership is important that's why he publicly spoke about it last year several times. Having zero leadership or veteran presence on our blue line is a scary world to bring rookies in to.
- Tfaehner

Grossman moved this past offseason is included. There's a for sale sign on these guys. Schultz an MDZ are vets that took much of the hard minutes last year. Guys spoke glowingly about Schultz. Room has to start being made on the blue line and we need to keep getting younger and faster in the forward ranks. Streit is the perfect candidate to go at this years deadline

Grossman moved this past offseason is included. There's a for sale sign on these guys. Schultz an MDZ are vets that took much of the hard minutes last year. Guys spoke glowingly about Schultz. Room has to start being made on the blue line and we need to keep getting younger and faster in the forward ranks. Streit is the perfect candidate to go at this years deadline
- Just5

In the past you've made statements that the Flyers won't be able to trade Grossmann, nobody will want Luke Schenn, and he won't get a contract in the future. Now there's a for sale sign on these guys. Which is it?

Streit would not be the perfect candidate to go at the trade deadline if the Flyers are in a playoff spot. That's needs to be part of the equation.

Wait: Are you saying that they're the same player?
- jmatchett383

Who else is taking his minutes?

In the past you've made statements that the Flyers won't be able to trade Grossmann, nobody will want Luke Schenn, and he won't get a contract in the future. Now there's a for sale sign on these guys. Which is it?

Streit would not be the perfect candidate to go at the trade deadline if the Flyers are in a playoff spot. That's needs to be part of the equation.
- MJL

Alright. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't be in a playoff spot. The flyers got grossman for a guy rumored to be getting bought out. And yes grossman was traded to Whats likely to be the worst team in the league bravo

In the past you've made statements that the Flyers won't be able to trade Grossmann, nobody will want Luke Schenn, and he won't get a contract in the future. Now there's a for sale sign on these guys. Which is it?

Streit would not be the perfect candidate to go at the trade deadline if the Flyers are in a playoff spot. That's needs to be part of the equation.
- MJL

You made a statement sometime last year in the winter that the flyers would make the playoffs. Yeah there's some real doozies thrown around by all

Gudas is not in the same class as schenn. He's not proven to be and until he does you can't compare the 2. Also without schenn AND gudas we lack physical tough defenseman. Gudas remember is replacing grossman not schenn. So losing schenn you destroy any resemblance of being able to clear the net. Capitals are one team in mind who would be able to camp on us all day.

Second streit is a good leader you need somebody at least one solid vet to be able to help these kids develop. Who is your veteran whose going to help these kids ? Schultz ? Cmon. I'm not saying I'd be mad to see him go for a coburn like deal just saying I don't think you see the big picture.

Also who of our prospects is so damn nhl ready you have to have them up now or were waiting too long ? I think if anything our impatient fan base thinks their ready. Morin still gets turned around often. Gost was not ready when he was called up last year though he showed glimpses of what he could be. Hagg was rocky at best in the ahl there is nothing he's done as of yet to believe he's ready. Provorov is an unknown verse nhl talent much is sanheim as well but most experts have provorov another year and sanheim another 2 away from being ready. So please tell.me how trading away multiple veterans is the answer ?

I'd be happy to see schenn go at tdl if morin is capable of playing 3rd pairing and pk minutes. I don't see a streit replacement unless provorov wows everyone and has an ekblad like rookie year. I'd much rather consider him our young guys mentor.
- Tfaehner

So Gudas is not the equal of a 3rd pair dman?

really?

Fare Thee Well, Rob Zepp
- Jsaquella

It was time for him to ramble on.

It was time for him to ramble on.
- BiggE

Report out of Germany says he's retiring as a player to go into coaching

Who else is taking his minutes?
- Just5

I'm not asking taking his minutes. You seemed to imply that they effectively and easily replaced Coburn with Medvedev, a player who has yet to play 1 second of professional hockey in North America. Just because you can sign a guy to play someone else's minutes does not mean that you are replacing those minutes adequately.

I'm not asking taking his minutes. You seemed to imply that they effectively and easily replaced Coburn with Medvedev, a player who has yet to play 1 second of professional hockey in North America. Just because you can sign a guy to play someone else's minutes does not mean that you are replacing those minutes adequately.
- jmatchett383

Well, even unseen, I'm guessing he could replace AMac


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So Gudas is not the equal of a 3rd pair dman?

really?
- BiggE

Gudas is a wild card, especailly after his knee injury. Same goes for Medvedev. They could both be average to above-average top-6 players, they could both be interchangeable 6/7 guys.

Report out of Germany says he's retiring as a player to go into coaching
- Jsaquella

Makes sense, he may as well start the next chapter in his pro career.

Well, even unseen, I'm guessing he could replace AMac


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- BiggE