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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 27 @ 9:25 PM ET
ok - ya gotta me to laugh out loud with that one....job well done
- Confederate

So long as you're laughin' wid me ....
Confederate
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SC
Joined: 07.13.2015

Aug 27 @ 10:05 PM ET
Damn your ham hands!
- HawkintheD

hey, i'm human and prone to mistakes.....
I am not an animal!
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Aug 27 @ 10:13 PM ET

I think Rocky has allready given the orders for Stan to shop Kane. Stan will now be a commodity trader. He probably has by now 15 short sale offers. When the bell rings ( and it will shortly ) , Stan will be selling high for profitable returns.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
I think Rocky has allready given the orders for Stan to shop Kane. Stan will now be a commodity trader. He probably has by now 15 short sale offers. When the bell rings ( and it will shortly ) , Stan will be selling high for profitable returns.
- spanky


Me thinks this way too.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
Me thinks this way too.
- powerenforcer
put it to a vote and I bet it gets done!
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:41 PM ET
I'm not any of them, but I'm happy to report I have heard no rumors and I dont have to fly for 2 weeks.

that is all

edit: oh yeah, almost forgot....reliable source, who shall remain unnamed to protect sources, stated it was bowmans fault for the screw up on qualifying offers years back

- Confederate


You are not reporting anything new.

Dale Tallon was never known as an office paperwork type of G.M.. Stan Bowman's job as his assistant G.M. was to manage the cap and the paperwork that went with the job.

It was Stan that missed the deadline, but most people hung the error on Tallon. It was a convenient excuse for Scottie to push Tallon out the door and get his son promoted.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:55 PM ET
Isn't the whole Kane situation baseless rumor? why does this bother you?
if it weren't for baseless rumor, what would this site be? other than Ogi's daily affirmation of hawks greatness

- Confederate




We're good enough, we're strong enough, and doggone it we've won 3 Cups in 6 years!!!
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
You are not reporting anything new.

Dale Tallon was never known as an office paperwork type of G.M.. Stan Bowman's job as his assistant G.M. was to manage the cap and the paperwork that went with the job.

It was Stan that missed the deadline, but most people hung the error on Tallon. It was a convenient excuse for Scottie to push Tallon out the door and get his son promoted.

- dahawks8819


Yeah! F'in Stan!!! All you holier than thou types who never pushed your homework off on the bookworm and it somehow didn't get done....you need to get real as you all sound silly.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 27 @ 11:06 PM ET
Yeah! F'in Stan!!! All you holier than thou types who never pushed your homework off on the bookworm and it somehow didn't get done....you need to get real as you all sound silly.
- HawkintheD

It was Tallon who came into the office after 36 holes and ten rounds at the nineteenth hole who pushed the contracts at Jr. and coined the popular phrase "get er done Stan!"
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 27 @ 11:16 PM ET
It was Tallon who came into the office after 36 holes and ten rounds at the nineteenth hole who pushed the contracts at Jr. and coined the popular phrase "get er done Stan!"
- paulr


Hawk History...always wondered where that one came from.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Aug 27 @ 11:23 PM ET
No, one of the reasons he MAY be traded, even if nothing sticks, is that
the Blackhawks have no way of knowing if PK gets in trouble again in the future
. And his history indicates that another incident is just around the corner, no matter his 'assurances' to the team.

Say nothing sticks and they keep him. And then in February 2016 he beats up a cabbie/gets drunk with college girls/exposes himself in a bar/ swings from the rafters with a Hooters girl/takes hostages. What's he worth then? And based on his history, how can the Blackhawks have confidence he won't go off the rails again?

The Blackhawks are now basically using game theory to determine their optimal move. And it MAY mean that moving a volatile asset for more stable assets gives the team the best chance to win.

- scottak

Taking that statement one step further, the Hawks should trade every player, because they don't know anyone will get into trouble in the future.

The crystal ball is just not reliable.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 28 @ 12:15 AM ET
No, one of the reasons he MAY be traded, even if nothing sticks, is that . And his history indicates that another incident is just around the corner, no matter his 'assurances' to the team.

Say nothing sticks and they keep him. And then in February 2016 he beats up a cabbie/gets drunk with college girls/exposes himself in a bar/ swings from the rafters with a Hooters girl/takes hostages. What's he worth then? And based on his history, how can the Blackhawks have confidence he won't go off the rails again?

The Blackhawks are now basically using game theory to determine their optimal move. And it MAY mean that moving a volatile asset for more stable assets gives the team the best chance to win.

- scottak

Taking that statement one step further, the Hawks should trade every player, because they don't know anyone will get into trouble in the future.

The crystal ball is just not reliable.

- dahawks8819


The force is strong in this one.
Confederate
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SC
Joined: 07.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 9:37 AM ET
morning kiddies!
eerily quiet in here.............something BIG must be ready to happen
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 28 @ 9:45 AM ET
morning kiddies!
eerily quiet in here.............something BIG must be ready to happen

- Confederate

Are you back to mocking my girth?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Aug 28 @ 9:51 AM ET
Assuming he is not charged. Which do you see as the most likely scenerio?

League suspends Kane- If so what grounds, COC?
Blackhawks suspend Kane
Civil suit is filed or a settlement is reached

IMO moving Kane now is ridiculous. The return is not at its highest in fact it does not get much lower. In the future the liklyhood is much more probable they get a max return and again that is assuming he keeps his nose clean. But at that time why would they?

- Cup-Bearer


He does a public rehab, agrees to continue with AA, if stops going to AA then gonzo. I would suspect that to be the most likely scenario if not charged.

Or the Derek Rose thing blows up and everyone gets distracted by that and kind of forgets about Patrick Kane.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Aug 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
essential a duplicate
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Aug 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
He does a public rehab, agrees to continue with AA, if stops going to AA then gonzo. I would suspect that to be the most likely scenario if not charged.

Or the Derek Rose thing blows up and everyone gets distracted by that and kind of forgets about Patrick Kane.

- fattybeef

Rose's situation has extortion written all over it. TWO YEARS later? Really?

Then some pud-whack on 670 this morning said he was going to get rid of his Adidas shoes. Not Rose-branded shoes, just regular Adidas. This hyper-sensitive-walking-around-looking-to-be-offended crap would be funny if it were not so sad.

Been thinking more about Kaner's situation. And I believe we'll see the 'Hawks go to camp and the Kane situation is resolved. No criminal charges. Team and Kane will have "agreed" upon some type of "fix", and the bribe settlement will have been complete, thus concluding the civil side.

FORTY days until BANNER night!
Bustov22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 03.30.2013

Aug 28 @ 10:12 AM ET
He does a public rehab, agrees to continue with AA, if stops going to AA then gonzo. I would suspect that to be the most likely scenario if not charged.

Or the Derek Rose thing blows up and everyone gets distracted by that and kind of forgets about Patrick Kane.

- fattybeef


Seems to me that if he is not charged and goes into public rehab, the public will think he just got way with something. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be in rehab, but going in after this situation is putting forth the idea that something did happen and it was because of substance abuse.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
Seems to me that if he is not charged and goes into public rehab, the public will think he just got way with something. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be in rehab, but going in after this situation is putting forth the idea that something did happen and it was because of substance abuse.
- Bustov22


Some will have doubts if he's cleared no matter what. If he truly does have a drinking problem, in-patient care is part of the Joint NHL/NHLPA Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program (SABH) and I would hope he has hit bottom with this last incident and he takes advantage of it.
Confederate
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SC
Joined: 07.13.2015

Aug 28 @ 11:25 AM ET
hearing there will be news today - end of day

Mex, you hearing same thing?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Aug 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
hearing there will be news today - end of day

Mex, you hearing same thing?

- Confederate


Kane related? Krugs related? Other related?
Coca
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.14.2009

Aug 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Anyone else read this Yahoo article and take a look at the spreadsheet they provided?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...c-violence-154821612.html

https://docs.google.com/s...view?usp=sharing&sle=true

That's a long list with some big names.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Aug 28 @ 11:53 AM ET
The mockery of a website is running a rumor of a meeting tomorrow between the NHL, the Blackhawks and potentially Brisson (Kane's agent). It this the blind squirrel's acorn or another squirrelly and baseless rumor?
http://sportsmockery.com/...ecide-patrick-kanes-fate/

- Marlowe


If true, it might support the other rumor that something is about to break as far as an actual charge.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Aug 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
He does a public rehab, agrees to continue with AA, if stops going to AA then gonzo. I would suspect that to be the most likely scenario if not charged.

Or the Derek Rose thing blows up and everyone gets distracted by that and kind of forgets about Patrick Kane.

- fattybeef

I think I agree with JJ here and while there will likely need to be rehab and commitment to change that is formal and verifiable by the team I don't think it will be public. To be real and meaningful change is what's required (per folks with access to FO sources) not public rehab. My 2 cents, which is maybe what it's worth.

Thanks guys for the levity surrounding Paul's dimensions, choice of shirt and dining options. Really needed the laugh.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Aug 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
No, one of the reasons he MAY be traded, even if nothing sticks, is that . And his history indicates that another incident is just around the corner, no matter his 'assurances' to the team.

Say nothing sticks and they keep him. And then in February 2016 he beats up a cabbie/gets drunk with college girls/exposes himself in a bar/ swings from the rafters with a Hooters girl/takes hostages. What's he worth then? And based on his history, how can the Blackhawks have confidence he won't go off the rails again?

The Blackhawks are now basically using game theory to determine their optimal move. And it MAY mean that moving a volatile asset for more stable assets gives the team the best chance to win.

- scottak

Taking that statement one step further, the Hawks should trade every player, because they don't know anyone will get into trouble in the future.

The crystal ball is just not reliable.

- dahawks8819


And when real money is involved, I mean REAL money, you go by what the track record of the player tells you, not these kind of peripatetic arguments. Sorry, don't mean to be a jerk. But I don't think that line of thinking is where the Hawks are. And specifically I am hearing that they are quire concerned with the "track record."
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