Yeah, except unfortunately we all know Claude probably won't make it through the season, and who knows who the next guy will be, but I would put money on the fact that he wont have a similar philosophy/style to Claude.
- mixturebill

I don't really feel Claude should be in the hot seat yet. What coach is going to get better performance out of this band-aid covered poop stain of a defense corps?

so keeping Krug is a commitment to run and gun?
- Fountain-San

First of all, the Bs have been a stay home D-first team for years.

Krug, is a 5'9" and 181 lbs. Due to his size I do not think he will be a top notched top four D-man. If you think Hamilton was soft then it's kinda crazy to think Krug is going to be a lock down D stud.

Best case is that he is an average #4 paired with a strong shut down pairing guy, but will sling th puck pretty good.

Second, my reference to the "run-n-gun" is his salary $ worth to a team like the Bs. If Krug is a boarder line mid-pairing guy, but a PP stud and puts up 50 plus points.......what is he really worth to the Bs?

If we were the Pens, Habs, or Sens maybe we could play him 25plus mins a night and he could be in the Norris talk with his point totals. But, last I checked most people don't want a soft O-D man on our top pairing.

(takes a huge rip from crack pipe) Absolutely. Julien employs so much run and gun in his scheme.
- glove_was_stuck

(e4) man! (e4)!!!!
- ProvBrewin

lol he had that (e4) thing going in July saying Franson was going to sign with Bruins...... more like (e-1)

First of all, the Bs have been a stay home D-first team for years.

Krug, is a 5'9" and 181 lbs. Due to his size I do not think he will be a top notched top four D-man. If you think Hamilton was soft then it's kinda crazy to think Krug is going to be a lock down D stud.

Best case is that he is an average #4 paired with a strong shut down pairing guy, but will sling th puck pretty good.

Second, my reference to the "run-n-gun" is his salary $ worth to a team like the Bs. If Krug is a boarder line mid-pairing guy, but a PP stud and puts up 50 plus points.......what is he really worth to the Bs?

If we were the Pens, Habs, or Sens maybe we could play him 25plus mins a night and he could be in the Norris talk with his point totals. But, last I checked most people don't want a soft O-D man on our top pairing.
- JIwasinskiJr

you complicate things. he's a good offensive Dman that move and make a good first pass and succeed on the power play. if he has a great season and puts up 50 then i think they'd like to keep him. not every guy has to be a stay at home lug nut right?

you complicate things. he's a good offensive Dman that move and make a good first pass and succeed on the power play. if he has a great season and puts up 50 then i think they'd like to keep him. not every guy has to be a stay at home lug nut right?
- Fountain-San

Yes and no.

I agree that we don't need a bunch of lock down D studs and could use a guy like Krug on the bottom pairing OR on the mid pairing with THREE other solid D-men ahead of him.

I look at this from a different standpoint as you though. Personally, I have doubts about Seidenberg and Chara a year from now and going into another season after this one.

I get the point of view from the fans that think it all comes together and we get max ceiling from this group.

But, if we were to lose one of Chara or Seidenberg as we have over the last few seasons at some point. We have nobody to replace them.........we do not realistically have anyone to slot "with" them right now unless a Morrow or Trotman takes a BIG leap.

If we are going to pay a player like Krug $5 plus per AND have Chara and Seidenberg as our other top two D-men........we are in trouble in a season or two, AND that's best case scenario.

It doesn't matter anyways. If they struggle this year then it's too late to change course quickly.
If they make a run at the Cup then sweet. We will see.

Yes and no.

I agree that we don't need a bunch of lock down D studs and could use a guy like Krug on the bottom pairing OR on the mid pairing with THREE other solid D-men ahead of him.

I look at this from a different standpoint as you though. Personally, I have doubts about Seidenberg and Chara a year from now and going into another season after this one.

I get the point of view from the fans that think it all come together and we get max ceiling from the group that we have.

But, if we were to lose one of Chara or Seidenberg as we have over the last few seasons at some point. We have nobody to replace them.........we do not realistically have anyone to slot "with" them right now unless a Morrow or Trotman takes a BIG leap.

If we are going to pay a player like Krug $5 plus per AND have Chara and Seidenberg as our other top two D-men........we are in trouble in a season or two, AND that's best case senecio!
- JIwasinskiJr

the way i look at is simple. they aren't done remaking this team. obviously Chara and Seidenberg are ???. even if just for their age. i have to think if we know it so does Sweeney, et al. they might look great and they might not. i'm sure they'd like to add to the D corp. but franson, ehrhoff, meh. maybe it comes from a young guy having a great camp. who knows.

the way i look at is simple. they aren't done remaking this team. obviously Chara and Seidenberg are ???. even if just for their age. i have to think if we know it so does Sweeney, et al. they might look great and they might not. i'm sure they'd like to add to the D corp. but franson, ehrhoff, meh. maybe it comes from a young guy having a great camp. who knows.
- Fountain-San

But isn't that the problem with the Sweeney logic........?

I 100% want the kids we have to get playing time this season and see what they have. Live with the mistakes and use them as teachable moments.

We have a bunch of them sitting in the sidelines and if we don't play them this season we are in the same boat next season right? Are there future Bs in the group of kids........let's find out. They say it take 200-300 games to see what a D-man really is.

But, the best spots to play rooks is the bottom pairing and maybe as a #4 with a solid vet as a #3.

We signed Quaider and have Krug on the bottom pairing already.

To me it's them being in the fence as to whether we are rebuilding OR trying to make some kind of run. If you are in between like this it doesn't end well.

They need to pick rebuild and sell and lose a season. Play the kids on D and see what happens. Sell any vets that are not expected to be with the team TWO years from now.

EDIT: Signing a vet like Ehroff or maybe Franson is a belief in a Cup team. We are not there so forget the signing.

Doesn't Franson seem to be turning into the Rick Porcello of the Bs if we were to sign him.......?

But isn't that the problem with the Sweeney logic........?

I 100% want the kids we have to get playing time this season and see what they have. Live with the mistakes and use them as teachable moments.

We have a bunch of them sitting in the sidelines and if we don't play them this season we are in the same boat next season right? Are there future Bs in the group of kids........let's find out. They say it take 200-300 games to see what a D-man really is.

But, the best spots to play rooks is the bottom pairing and maybe as a #4 with a solid vet as a #3.

We signed Quaider and have Krug on the bottom pairing already.

To me it's them being in the fence as to whether we are rebuilding OR trying to make some kind of run. If you are in between like this it doesn't end well.

They need to pick rebuild and sell and lose a season. Play the kids on D and see what happens. Sell any vets that are not expected to be with the team TWO years from now.
- JIwasinskiJr

not sure i really have a grasp on Sweeney logic. never met him and he's new to the role. like i said they're not done rebuilding. i could see a trade before a signing. and i like that we locked up mcquaid even if the money was what it was. if one of the kids has a great camp who knows. but i'm sure, even though they haven't shared it with us, they have a plan.

not sure i really have a grasp on Sweeney logic. never met him and he's new to the role. like i said they're not done rebuilding. i could see a trade before a signing. and i like that we locked up mcquaid even if the money was what it was. if one of the kids has a great camp who knows. but i'm sure, even though they haven't shared it with us, they have a plan.
- Fountain-San

I hope you are right. Time will tell.

But, a word of advice...............Ben Cherington had a plan too.

I hope you are right. Time will tell.

But, a word of advice.........I bet Ben Cherington had a plan too.
- JIwasinskiJr

i'm aware. but they just blew that up and changed the business model because from an ownership standpoint it was (frank)ed. they got rid of Luccino and Cherington because they need a completely new way of doing business.

i'm sure the same thing will happen to Sweeney and Neely if they finish in last place 3 out of 4 years.

- ProvBrewin

Martinez's poop is the bomb!

i'm aware. but they just blew that up and changed the business model because from an ownership standpoint it was (frank)ed. they got rid of Luccino and Cherington because they need a completely new way of doing business.

i'm sure the same thing will happen to Sweeney and Neely if they finish in last place 3 out of 4 years.
- Fountain-San

I hope they make the changes before 3 of 4 years in last place.

Kevin Miller and his shoulder.

http://bigbadblog.weei.co...impact-decision-to-fight/

I hope they make the changes before 3 of 4 years in last place.
- JIwasinskiJr

ok

I hope they make the changes before 3 of 4 years in last place.
- JIwasinskiJr

Like what? You just got a new GM. Between the Bruins and Red Sox I'm exhausted. How many more (frank)ing changes do you need?

I hope they make the changes before 3 of 4 years in last place.
- JIwasinskiJr

Was there ever a time when you were happy?

Was there ever a time when you were happy?
- dothedougie

Yup.

2013. I thought we were the class of the NHL! Thought if we made some minor changes we would be right back in the finals and against the Hawks.

Concerns of the age of Chara were piping up, as the Hawks kinda exposed him. Shrugged them off, he had a hip injury problem, and would be fine.

Team speed was also a concer.......but with Seguin and Peverly we will improve next season!

They made some moves that offseason and I drank the kook-aid that they knew what they were doing and must be right.

2014. We won the President trophy and I thought had a chance to make th Cup again!

Against the Habs the Chara mobility issue popped back up again, it was even evident in the Wings series. Was he showing age after the regular season.....it's been two years in a row?

Started getting concerned about our lack of D depth and maybe Chara's decline because Bart was the best we had to offer to fill in the Top four when Seidenberg was hurt? Meszaros? Seriously?

The lack of finishing was also a concern, where were the "clutch" players......were we getting exposed in the fourth line and overall with teams that could "game plan" against us? Speed, skill and finish.....?

Seemed teams had a "plan" for how to attack us and it was when I started to really worry. But they will fix it I thought!

2015. We had cap issues and traded away one of the most "underrated" D-men in the NHL, Johnny Rocket. We couldn't afford Iggy.......30 goal scorer!

The older guys on the D, without Johnny Rocket, became exposed! These guys were the two most important pieces for a chance to make a deep run.......Chara and Seidenberg. Hamilton didn't need to carry the team he was 20. But Seidenberg and Chara were stud pillars when we won the Cup and needed to return to that for us to have a chance!

We had guys that were supposedly "ready" to step in on D and up front! Smith and Yeti were going to get better! And then..........

Watching the team over the season they were inconsistent as I've seen in years! They didn't show any heart on the ice. Locker room chatter of guys not caring and not playing to there potential popped up.

2016..........? After this offseason and what I've seen and paid attention to over the last few years?

Maybe I'm wrong! Everyone thinks I am and that the facts and points that I have shown are irrelevant or not that big of a deal in reality.

I hope you guys are all correct. Anyways, who cares. You guys are confident and that means that these things I point out are probably overblown.

Wish the season would start already and I will be watching and rooting for them and that's all that matters! Who cares what I think!

Funny clip in the link of the article.

Talbot was interviewing Habs fans in Montreal, but didn't tell them who he was.

http://www.csnne.com/bost...terviewing-canadiens-fans

Sweet sweaters.

Yes and no.

I agree that we don't need a bunch of lock down D studs and could use a guy like Krug on the bottom pairing OR on the mid pairing with THREE other solid D-men ahead of him.

I look at this from a different standpoint as you though. Personally, I have doubts about Seidenberg and Chara a year from now and going into another season after this one.

I get the point of view from the fans that think it all comes together and we get max ceiling from this group.

But, if we were to lose one of Chara or Seidenberg as we have over the last few seasons at some point. We have nobody to replace them.........we do not realistically have anyone to slot "with" them right now unless a Morrow or Trotman takes a BIG leap.

If we are going to pay a player like Krug $5 plus per AND have Chara and Seidenberg as our other top two D-men........we are in trouble in a season or two, AND that's best case scenario.

It doesn't matter anyways. If they struggle this year then it's too late to change course quickly.
If they make a run at the Cup then sweet. We will see.
- JIwasinskiJr

- dothedougie

Yup.

2013. I thought we were the class of the NHL! Thought if we made some minor changes we would be right back in the finals and against the Hawks.

Concerns of the age of Chara were piping up, as the Hawks kinda exposed him. Shrugged them off, he had a hip injury problem, and would be fine.

Team speed was also a concer.......but with Seguin and Peverly we will improve next season!

They made some moves that offseason and I drank the kook-aid that they knew what they were doing and must be right.

2014. We won the President trophy and I thought had a chance to make th Cup again!

Against the Habs the Chara mobility issue popped back up again, it was even evident in the Wings series. Was he showing age after the regular season.....it's been two years in a row?

Started getting concerned about our lack of D depth and maybe Chara's decline because Bart was the best we had to offer to fill in the Top four when Seidenberg was hurt? Meszaros? Seriously?

The lack of finishing was also a concern, where were the "clutch" players......were we getting exposed in the fourth line and overall with teams that could "game plan" against us? Speed, skill and finish.....?

Seemed teams had a "plan" for how to attack us and it was when I started to really worry. But they will fix it I thought!

2015. We had cap issues and traded away one of the most "underrated" D-men in the NHL, Johnny Rocket. We couldn't afford Iggy.......30 goal scorer!

The older guys on the D, without Johnny Rocket, became exposed! These guys were the two most important pieces for a chance to make a deep run.......Chara and Seidenberg. Hamilton didn't need to carry the team he was 20. But Seidenberg and Chara were stud pillars when we won the Cup and needed to return to that for us to have a chance!

We had guys that were supposedly "ready" to step in on D and up front! Smith and Yeti were going to get better! And then..........

Watching the team over the season they were inconsistent as I've seen in years! They didn't show any heart on the ice. Locker room chatter of guys not caring and not playing to there potential popped up.

2016..........? After this offseason and what I've seen and paid attention to over the last few years?

Maybe I'm wrong! Everyone thinks I am and that the facts and points that I have shown are irrelevant or not that big of a deal in reality.

I hope you guys are all correct. Anyways, who cares. You guys are confident and that means that these things I point out are probably overblown.

Wish the season would start already and I will be watching and rooting for them and that's all that matters! Who cares what I think!

- JIwasinskiJr

Too long. A simple, "I'm not a fan of the new direction of the bruins" would have worked.

Yup.

2013. I thought we were the class of the NHL! Thought if we made some minor changes we would be right back in the finals and against the Hawks.

Concerns of the age of Chara were piping up, as the Hawks kinda exposed him. Shrugged them off, he had a hip injury problem, and would be fine.

Team speed was also a concer.......but with Seguin and Peverly we will improve next season!

They made some moves that offseason and I drank the kook-aid that they knew what they were doing and must be right.

2014. We won the President trophy and I thought had a chance to make th Cup again!

Against the Habs the Chara mobility issue popped back up again, it was even evident in the Wings series. Was he showing age after the regular season.....it's been two years in a row?

Started getting concerned about our lack of D depth and maybe Chara's decline because Bart was the best we had to offer to fill in the Top four when Seidenberg was hurt? Meszaros? Seriously?

The lack of finishing was also a concern, where were the "clutch" players......were we getting exposed in the fourth line and overall with teams that could "game plan" against us? Speed, skill and finish.....?

Seemed teams had a "plan" for how to attack us and it was when I started to really worry. But they will fix it I thought!

2015. We had cap issues and traded away one of the most "underrated" D-men in the NHL, Johnny Rocket. We couldn't afford Iggy.......30 goal scorer!

The older guys on the D, without Johnny Rocket, became exposed! These guys were the two most important pieces for a chance to make a deep run.......Chara and Seidenberg. Hamilton didn't need to carry the team he was 20. But Seidenberg and Chara were stud pillars when we won the Cup and needed to return to that for us to have a chance!

We had guys that were supposedly "ready" to step in on D and up front! Smith and Yeti were going to get better! And then..........

Watching the team over the season they were inconsistent as I've seen in years! They didn't show any heart on the ice. Locker room chatter of guys not caring and not playing to there potential popped up.

2016..........? After this offseason and what I've seen and paid attention to over the last few years?

Maybe I'm wrong! Everyone thinks I am and that the facts and points that I have shown are irrelevant or not that big of a deal in reality.

I hope you guys are all correct. Anyways, who cares. You guys are confident and that means that these things I point out are probably overblown.

Wish the season would start already and I will be watching and rooting for them and that's all that matters! Who cares what I think!

- JIwasinskiJr

way to use your words.

Yup.

2013. I thought we were the class of the NHL! Thought if we made some minor changes we would be right back in the finals and against the Hawks.

Concerns of the age of Chara were piping up, as the Hawks kinda exposed him. Shrugged them off, he had a hip injury problem, and would be fine.

Team speed was also a concer.......but with Seguin and Peverly we will improve next season!

They made some moves that offseason and I drank the kook-aid that they knew what they were doing and must be right.

2014. We won the President trophy and I thought had a chance to make th Cup again!

Against the Habs the Chara mobility issue popped back up again, it was even evident in the Wings series. Was he showing age after the regular season.....it's been two years in a row?

Started getting concerned about our lack of D depth and maybe Chara's decline because Bart was the best we had to offer to fill in the Top four when Seidenberg was hurt? Meszaros? Seriously?

The lack of finishing was also a concern, where were the "clutch" players......were we getting exposed in the fourth line and overall with teams that could "game plan" against us? Speed, skill and finish.....?

Seemed teams had a "plan" for how to attack us and it was when I started to really worry. But they will fix it I thought!

2015. We had cap issues and traded away one of the most "underrated" D-men in the NHL, Johnny Rocket. We couldn't afford Iggy.......30 goal scorer!

The older guys on the D, without Johnny Rocket, became exposed! These guys were the two most important pieces for a chance to make a deep run.......Chara and Seidenberg. Hamilton didn't need to carry the team he was 20. But Seidenberg and Chara were stud pillars when we won the Cup and needed to return to that for us to have a chance!

We had guys that were supposedly "ready" to step in on D and up front! Smith and Yeti were going to get better! And then..........

Watching the team over the season they were inconsistent as I've seen in years! They didn't show any heart on the ice. Locker room chatter of guys not caring and not playing to there potential popped up.

2016..........? After this offseason and what I've seen and paid attention to over the last few years?

Maybe I'm wrong! Everyone thinks I am and that the facts and points that I have shown are irrelevant or not that big of a deal in reality.

I hope you guys are all correct. Anyways, who cares. You guys are confident and that means that these things I point out are probably overblown.

Wish the season would start already and I will be watching and rooting for them and that's all that matters! Who cares what I think!

- JIwasinskiJr

I dunno, it's gotta be better than the year Dave Lewis was behind the bench. . . or 96/97 when the Bruins came in DEAD LAST. remember when Thornton was supposed to be this teams savior? Just to be traded away for Sturm and a bag of pucks? Being a Boston sports fan is always a rollercoaster ride with ups and downs. It's part of the "fun".