Be awesome if all the answers were Kessel being the only guy on the team that had fun night in and night out.
- weirdoh

Cuz he scored.

This example doesn't fit with this kessel situation(this situation with the vp isn't comparable with kessel). People are saying the guys that are still here are suddenly going to change and not be dogs and give an effort because kessel is gone. That because he's no longer here these guys are going to be magically different. That simply isn't how life works.


How does my train of thought have no lead by example? Where does that come from?
- burn

OK so lets look at the whole solute gate stupidity. I'm not going to say it was kessels idea. No way to prove that but not the point anyway. It's safe to assume that he was part of the planning of it. He was right in ghemix of it. And you had a few players that were ready to skake up to center ice then didn't.

Now I could care less if they solute it not. But the blatant effort that was put into NOT doing it was BS . other players were influenced, and this is my point.

No, those that are left will become magically better and put up more points. But we also don't need this kind of influence. This team was clicking and winning games and was in the playoff hunt then just stopped. Yes the team isnt that great. You can't expect to be when giving up as many shots as they did. I'm not saying that kessel was the sole issue either. They were trying to get rid of phaneuf too.

Where the chemistry is good you can tell. Equally the same when its bad.

I like kessel, he is a gifted talent, something we haven't had in awhile since probably Sundin. But was he good in Toronto? Again why would Boston let him go too? They knew what they were getting rid of. I wish him well in Pittsburgh, and have no doubt he will hit 40 goals this year. I think I even heard/read somewhere that he apparently hgs reached out to Gary Roberts for a conditioning prep. I wouldn't be surprised if Crosby had something to do with that.

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Right, Submerged. Saw that video. Was gonna try it but bailed.
- weirdoh

Not really eventful but fun if you like climbing games.

Not really eventful but fun if you like climbing games.
- Tee-Dot

If there's ever been a better recommendation for a game, I've never see it.

Love salespeople...

Just randomly looking at amps.

Them = Well this $1499 7.1 Onkyo has Spotify, 478 HDMI inputs, and you can control it with your Smartphone!!!

Me = How about this $499 7.1 Onkyo?

Them = Well, it has a little more power but it doesn't have the same options as the other.

Me = Well, I have 15,000 songs on my PS3's hard drive, my audio is connected through superior fiber obtic cable, and this amp comes with a remote control. I'd rather save a grand.

OK so lets look at the whole solute gate stupidity. I'm not going to say it was kessels idea. No way to prove that but not the point anyway. It's safe to assume that he was part of the planning of it. He was right in ghemix of it. And you had a few players that were ready to skake up to center ice then didn't.

Now I could care less if they solute it not. But the blatant effort that was put into NOT doing it was BS . other players were influenced, and this is my point.

No, those that are left will become magically better and put up more points. But we also don't need this kind of influence. This team was clicking and winning games and was in the playoff hunt then just stopped. Yes the team isnt that great. You can't expect to be when giving up as many shots as they did. I'm not saying that kessel was the sole issue either. They were trying to get rid of phaneuf too.

Where the chemistry is good you can tell. Equally the same when its bad.

I like kessel, he is a gifted talent, something we haven't had in awhile since probably Sundin. But was he good in Toronto? Again why would Boston let him go too? They knew what they were getting rid of. I wish him well in Pittsburgh, and have no doubt he will hit 40 goals this year. I think I even heard/read somewhere that he apparently hgs reached out to Gary Roberts for a conditioning prep. I wouldn't be surprised if Crosby had something to do with that.


- mel_vin[/img]

Salute gate is meaningless. Using it as evidence is absurd.

OK so lets look at the whole solute gate stupidity. I'm not going to say it was kessels idea. No way to prove that but not the point anyway. It's safe to assume that he was part of the planning of it. He was right in ghemix of it. And you had a few players that were ready to skake up to center ice then didn't.

Now I could care less if they solute it not. But the blatant effort that was put into NOT doing it was BS . other players were influenced, and this is my point.

No, those that are left will become magically better and put up more points. But we also don't need this kind of influence. This team was clicking and winning games and was in the playoff hunt then just stopped. Yes the team isnt that great. You can't expect to be when giving up as many shots as they did. I'm not saying that kessel was the sole issue either. They were trying to get rid of phaneuf too.

Where the chemistry is good you can tell. Equally the same when its bad.

I like kessel, he is a gifted talent, something we haven't had in awhile since probably Sundin. But was he good in Toronto? Again why would Boston let him go too? They knew what they were getting rid of. I wish him well in Pittsburgh, and have no doubt he will hit 40 goals this year. I think I even heard/read somewhere that he apparently hgs reached out to Gary Roberts for a conditioning prep. I wouldn't be surprised if Crosby had something to do with that.


- mel_vin[/img]

The fact that 23 other players stopped playing cannot be attributed to one player. That's utter nonsense.

OK so lets look at the whole solute gate stupidity. I'm not going to say it was kessels idea. No way to prove that but not the point anyway. It's safe to assume that he was part of the planning of it. He was right in ghemix of it. And you had a few players that were ready to skake up to center ice then didn't.

Now I could care less if they solute it not. But the blatant effort that was put into NOT doing it was BS . other players were influenced, and this is my point.

No, those that are left will become magically better and put up more points. But we also don't need this kind of influence. This team was clicking and winning games and was in the playoff hunt then just stopped. Yes the team isnt that great. You can't expect to be when giving up as many shots as they did. I'm not saying that kessel was the sole issue either. They were trying to get rid of phaneuf too.

Where the chemistry is good you can tell. Equally the same when its bad.

I like kessel, he is a gifted talent, something we haven't had in awhile since probably Sundin. But was he good in Toronto? Again why would Boston let him go too? They knew what they were getting rid of. I wish him well in Pittsburgh, and have no doubt he will hit 40 goals this year. I think I even heard/read somewhere that he apparently hgs reached out to Gary Roberts for a conditioning prep. I wouldn't be surprised if Crosby had something to do with that.


- mel_vin[/img]

Why Boston get rid of seguin? Hamilton?

Pointing out he was traded doesn't mean he was a problem. Edmonton traded Gretzky because he was a problem?

Phil kessel apparently doesn't care enough to give an effort, but apparently he cares enough to orchestrate salute gate.

He doesn't care enough..... But I'm going to use "he got into a fight with a teammate in practise as evidence of him being a bad teammate"


It can't be both.

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
If this is already out there, I apologize. Haven't been on Twitter. In any case, LAK and Christian Ehrhoff have agreed to terms on 1-yr deal

- Fruitcakenipple

4 30+ homer guys right off the bat... Yikes!!!

Interloper....wait whaaaaat?

(FRANKIN) Nippleton

SUCK IT!!!

Love salespeople...

Just randomly looking at amps.

Them = Well this $1499 7.1 Onkyo has Spotify, 478 HDMI inputs, and you can control it with your Smartphone!!!

Me = How about this $499 7.1 Onkyo?

Them = Well, it has a little more power but it doesn't have the same options as the other.

Me = Well, I have 15,000 songs on my PS3's hard drive, my audio is connected through superior fiber obtic cable, and this amp comes with a remote control. I'd rather save a grand.
- Tee-Dot

At least they didn't try selling you a Bose sound system..... yet.

If you don't do your research before heading to a store you deserve to be suckered into something poopty anyway lol

Dave Stubbs @Dave_Stubbs
PB 9.92 of Canada's Andre De Grasse, tied for bronze, is beyond brilliant. What a tremendous, tremendous race from far outside lane.


Wow soooooo much excitement...


He lost a race...Thats not a good thing...
- Fruitcakenipple

it's his first world championship and he's significantly younger than bolt and gatlin. most guys aren't winning bronze at 20.

Richardey looking super hittable for the third start in a row

i guess his streak of good pitching is probably over lol

Richardey looking super hittable for the third start in a row

i guess his streak of good pitching is probably over lol
- daeth

Was it really a question? That's the nature of the beast.


Remember that game? Shadow of the Beast?

He wasn't just getting lucky, he was actually pitching well. He was getting a ton if movement with his knuckleball while still locating it well. His knuckler wasn't doing anything early this afternoon. I'm hoping he can fix that.. not really betting on it though

He wasn't just getting lucky, he was actually pitching well. He was getting a ton if movement with his knuckleball while still locating it well. His knuckler wasn't doing anything early this afternoon. I'm hoping he can fix that.. not really betting on it though
- daeth

That pitch is all about on again off again. If it was something that was controllable, then you'd see him dominate more often than not. But it just ain't, so you gotta take the bad with the good. And hopefully, more good than bad.

That pitch is all about on again off again. If it was something that was controllable, then you'd see him dominate more often than not. But it just ain't, so you gotta take the bad with the good. And hopefully, more good than bad.
- weirdoh

he had a couple years of elite play. it can be controlled, he's just lost it i'd say

he had a couple years of elite play. it can be controlled, he's just lost it i'd say
- daeth

I was always under the impression that you threw it and hoped for the best. You never know what it's gonna do. That's the trick behind it. It's not a curve ball where you know how it'll break. I'm gonna have to disagree about being in control of it. Then again, I could be wrong. Should we start calling each other names?

You can't pick corners and get exact placement but you have full control over your release, armspeed, and grip which affects movement. When a knuckleball gets no movement I'd assume it's a mechanical thing a lot of the time.

is that ok sweetypie?

that's right, i started with the name calling. it went there.

Why Boston get rid of seguin? Hamilton?

Pointing out he was traded doesn't mean he was a problem. Edmonton traded Gretzky because he was a problem?
- burn

The Gretzky trade to this day baffles me, but that was a very different NHL back then so ...Pick and choose we will be going back and forth with each other. Trade of scenery, missed expectations, bad in locker room etc

You and I will just have to agree to disagree.

Phil kessel apparently doesn't care enough to give an effort, but apparently he cares enough to orchestrate salute gate.

He doesn't care enough..... But I'm going to use "he got into a fight with a teammate in practise as evidence of him being a bad teammate"


It can't be both.
- burn

I forgot about that. No common denominator yet for you here..I'll let you spin your wheels on that for a while.

So again not disputing kessel skill and talent here, tell me why did Toronto trade him, considering what we gave up to get him and what we got for him PLUS retaining salary. A guy who said he loved it here, who make people like bozak and jvr better, and his abundance of work ethic and determination to win, why on earth did we trade him? And dont give me the copt out answer that we didnt need him now, we are in a rebuild, the man himself said he wanted to retire here when we signed him.

I like kessel, but not as a leaf.