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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
Flyers fans hate the shootout and yet look at this as a GREAT moment in Flyers history. Detroit to me is the worst. Love it when they are scoring. Hate it when they aren't. TJ Oshie is the next coming of Captain America because of the shootout in the Olympics. Toews put up a pretty good preference with Cary Price making the stops he needed to.

Don't mind the shootout. We just need to recognize our weakness and improve at it.

PS, Holmgren brought up Steve Mason also. I don't believe Mason was named as one of Holmgren's successes.

- SuperSchennBros


That's what makes it so great. The Rangers knew we weren't good at the shootout and played OT to get to it. The fact that we turned the tables on those horrible people is what makes it even better.

Edit: I still hate the shootout. Horrible way to determine a playoff spot by having a best-of-3 breakaway contest.

Edit edit: What is the thing about Toews and Price? Not sure what "preference" you're talking about or what it has to do with the shootout.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
That's what makes it so great. The Rangers knew we weren't good at the shootout and played OT to get to it. The fact that we turned the tables on those horrible people is what makes it even better.

Edit: I still hate the shootout. Horrible way to determine a playoff spot by having a best-of-3 breakaway contest.

Edit edit: What is the thing about Toews and Price? Not sure what "preference" you're talking about or what it has to do with the shootout.

- jmatchett383

World Juniors. I wanna say 07?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
World Juniors. I wanna say 07?
- SuperSchennBros


...okay...

One time, the Flyers beat the Thrashers in a shootout.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
After Versus (renamed "NBC Sports" since) released the Danny Briere commercial I posted above, there was joking here about him doing commercials locally. bradleyc4 lives out in Amish country, so someone made a comment about Briere doing Amish Cable commercials (as if a thing existed, heh). Number23 then posted this picture of Amish men talking with a caption:



"Tell the English ye shall arrive between the hours of 10 & 2..."

He then added Danny Briere's face to the man on the right and gave me my avatar.


- Flyskippy


Ha. Honestly that's just silly. As if ANYONE would think that Briere could grow a beard like that
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
...okay...

One time, the Flyers beat the Thrashers in a shootout.

- jmatchett383

Improve.

Honestly, Washington just got better in the shootout. An area of the game. What Washington put together to get Oshie, Philly could have done the same and Oshie is automatically in talks of being apart of the core. Oshie would automatically be in the mix with Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds and Mason right now and moving forward for at least the next 5 years. Replace Troy Brrouwer with Matt Read's name and whatever picks Washington gave up.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
Improve.

Honestly, Washington just got better in the shootout. An area of the game. What Washington put together to get Oshie, Philly could have done the same and Oshie is automatically in talks of being apart of the core. Oshie would automatically be in the mix with Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds and Mason right now and moving forward for at least the next 5 years. Replace Troy Brrouwer with Matt Read's name and whatever picks Washington gave up.

- SuperSchennBros


What if they wanted Simmonds? They would have wanted at least one roster player, and Read might not have gotten it done after last season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
What if they wanted Simmonds? They would have wanted at least one roster player, and Read might not have gotten it done after last season.
- TheGreat28

Everyone wants Wayne Simmonds. I give you Simmonds, it's going to be straight up for Oshie. Matt Read is two years younger than Troy Brouwer and a kid who will fit Hitch's system. The only thing holding Read back from getting that kind of deal done is his down season. Not to mention, Read has a fair price tag.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 17 @ 5:18 PM ET
Improve.

Honestly, Washington just got better in the shootout. An area of the game. What Washington put together to get Oshie, Philly could have done the same and Oshie is automatically in talks of being apart of the core. Oshie would automatically be in the mix with Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds and Mason right now and moving forward for at least the next 5 years. Replace Troy Brrouwer with Matt Read's name and whatever picks Washington gave up.

- SuperSchennBros


3-on-3 (which I also hate) should reduce the number of shootouts needed.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
thank god they didnt choose Drury
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 17 @ 5:26 PM ET
thank god they didnt choose Drury
- Crimsoninja

Seriously.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Everyone wants Wayne Simmonds. I give you Simmonds, it's going to be straight up for Oshie. Matt Read is two years younger than Troy Brouwer and a kid who will fit Hitch's system. The only thing holding Read back from getting that kind of deal done is his down season. Not to mention, Read has a fair price tag.
- SuperSchennBros

Oshie's not that great!
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Everyone wants Wayne Simmonds. I give you Simmonds, it's going to be straight up for Oshie. Matt Read is two years younger than Troy Brouwer and a kid who will fit Hitch's system. The only thing holding Read back from getting that kind of deal done is his down season. Not to mention, Read has a fair price tag.
- SuperSchennBros


Just that Brouwer and Simmonds are similar players - power forwards and strong on the PP. We certainly would not have had to sweeten the pot like Washington did, but I could see StL wanting Simmonds more than Read.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
rockychocbill.

One of my most missed anyway.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 6:03 PM ET
Everyone wants Wayne Simmonds. I give you Simmonds, it's going to be straight up for Oshie. Matt Read is two years younger than Troy Brouwer and a kid who will fit Hitch's system. The only thing holding Read back from getting that kind of deal done is his down season. Not to mention, Read has a fair price tag.
- SuperSchennBros


I would not trade either Simmonds or Read straight up for Oshie.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
I would not trade either Simmonds or Read straight up for Oshie.
- MJL


Read yes, Simmonds no
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Aug 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
So my signed Briere Flyers jersey is worth something now? Sweeet!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
thank god they didnt choose Drury
- Crimsoninja


Or Gomez
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:13 PM ET
Read yes, Simmonds no
- flyerscup2011


Same here.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 17 @ 7:18 PM ET
Or Gomez
- PhillySportsGuy

or Fester

sorry, couldn't resist
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:27 PM ET
Everyone wants Wayne Simmonds. I give you Simmonds, it's going to be straight up for Oshie. Matt Read is two years younger than Troy Brouwer and a kid who will fit Hitch's system. The only thing holding Read back from getting that kind of deal done is his down season. Not to mention, Read has a fair price tag.
- SuperSchennBros


If you offered Simmonds straight up for Oshie, the Caps say yes faster than a fat guy at a buffet. Oshie's probably not as good as Simmonds, is older and costs more.

The shootout, much as I hate it, is still a part of the game, but with 3 on 3 OT dawning, I think it's going to be a good deal less of a factor. I think that the Flyers may well be one of the better teams at 3 on 3, TBH, with Giroux and Voracek out there and the ability to ice Streit or Del Zotto or maybe even Medvedev as the D man
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:28 PM ET
or Fester

sorry, couldn't resist

- BiggE



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:29 PM ET

- tangent_man


Et tu, Pugsley?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 17 @ 7:31 PM ET
I would not trade either Simmonds or Read straight up for Oshie.
- MJL

I would trade Read for Oshie in heartbeat. Oshie better.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:32 PM ET
Et tu, Pugsley?
- Jsaquella


The good news is, somehow my search got me this one, too...


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:34 PM ET
The good news is, somehow my search got me this one, too...


- tangent_man



Grandpa Al Lewis!
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