Being a NYR fan I've seen a lot of Hags - really like him -he works his arse
Off and is a really good guy who I wish we could have kept but honestly don't see him as a 2nd liner -he's not creative and has pretty mediocre hands so doesn't bring
Much when put with skill guys. AV moved him up and down The lineup enough to see how he'd do with different combos. What he is is a very good 3rd liner who is a cap casualty due to his consistency -he was due a raise. He's the kind of high quality depth guy that a winning team needs but I wouldn't expect him to be the game changer some are hoping for. IMO he's of little use on the PP for instance.
Ducks fans will love his speed as he can just flat out outrace people for loose pucks is
Really quick along the boards and corners and is a great PKer. He's also kind of streaky with the scoring -at times looks like he'll score 25 then Won't score at all for a while. Always a great guy to root for though and I'm sorry we lost him.
- BobbySchmautz

I remember in MSL's first game with the Rangers, he was on a line with Richards and Hagelin. MSL passed it to Hagelin and Hagelin totally shanked it. The next shift, MSL had the puck racing through the neutral zone and he had a player open next to him. He looked like he was about to pass it, looked up, saw it was Hagelin, and decided to keep the puck himself

When I first saw the Sutter signing I thought I saw it wrong. I still can't believe he got over 5m.
- KINGS67

I think its time you got your glasses fixed there bud.

I'm not sure NYR has better depth than Anaheim & NYR prospect cupboard is bare. They don't have any left, they have traded all their prospects & picks to date. What NYR has moving forward is Kreider, Miller, Etem & Fast as up & coming young players, surrounding a solid core that is locked up for 3 plus years. Well that & the fact they play in the far weaker east & the road to the cup is a significantly easier road to travel to the cup than in the west. They are serious cup contenders for several more seasons but Anaheim is a serious cup contender now & have a bounty of prospects coming, 3 of who are studs in Gibson, Theodore & Ritchie. They also have a bunch of solid prospects in Friberg, Kerdiles, Noesen, Montour, Roy & others.

NYR has 22 players signed at 73.425, but still need to add 1 #8 Damn. 2.025 over the cap but are allowed to exceed the cap by Hayes ELC bonus of 2.85 so .825 in wiggle room. Any overage spent this season against the cap carries over to next season as a penalty on Hayes bonus. As Boston; .969, & Chicago; .750, are paying against the cap this season from Hamilton's ELC & Timonen's over 35 on a 1 year deal bonus's respectively pushed these 2 teams over the cap last season.

Nash, Brassard, Zuccarello.
Kreider, Stepan, Miller.
Etem, Stoll, Hayes.
Glass, Moore, Fast.
Spare Stalberg.

McDonaugh, Girardi.
Staal, Klein.
Yandle, Boyle.
Diaz, ?

Lundqvist, Raata.

Anaheim has 24 players signed at 64.568. They have essentially 8 million left in cap space not counting the 1.275 in bonus money available on Sekec & Lindholm's ELC's.

Maroon, Getzlaf, Perry.
Hagelin, Kesler, Silfverberg.
Sekec, Rakell, Stewart.
Cogliano, Horcoff; until Thompson returns from LTIR, Jackman.
Spare McGratton.

Lindholm, Bieksa.
Fowler, Despres.
Vatanen, Stoner.
Manson, Holzer.

Anderson, Khodobin.

These are both cup contending teams & Anaheim plays in a stronger conference but Murray has set this team up to do what ever it wants as the season progresses to address injuries or other perceived needs with serious cap space available. NYR has no money or depth to address injuries or other unless they jettison a very good player, so if they sustain a serious injury & it will be very interesting to see how NYR can address this if required. Thankfully they hold their 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks for next season after spending all of them over the last several seasons.

I'm not sure NYR has better depth than Anaheim & NYR prospect cupboard is bare. They don't have any left, they have traded all their prospects & picks to date. What NYR has moving forward is Kreider, Miller, Etem & Fast as up & coming young players, surrounding a solid core that is locked up for 3 plus years. Well that & the fact they play in the far weaker east & the road to the cup is a significantly easier road to travel to the cup than in the west. They are serious cup contenders for several more seasons but Anaheim is a serious cup contender now & have a bounty of prospects coming, 3 of who are studs in Gibson, Theodore & Ritchie. They also have a bunch of solid prospects in Friberg, Kerdiles, Noesen, Montour, Roy & others.

NYR has 22 players signed at 73.425, but still need to add 1 #8 Damn. 2.025 over the cap but are allowed to exceed the cap by Hayes ELC bonus of 2.85 so .825 in wiggle room. Any overage spent this season against the cap carries over to next season as a penalty on Hayes bonus. As Boston; .969, & Chicago; .750, are paying against the cap this season from Hamilton's ELC & Timonen's over 35 on a 1 year deal bonus's respectively pushed these 2 teams over the cap last season.

Nash, Brassard, Zuccarello.
Kreider, Stepan, Miller.
Etem, Stoll, Hayes.
Glass, Moore, Fast.
Spare Stalberg.

McDonaugh, Girardi.
Staal, Klein.
Yandle, Boyle.
Diaz, ?

Lundqvist, Raata.

Anaheim has 24 players signed at 64.568. They have essentially 8 million left in cap space not counting the 1.275 in bonus money available on Sekec & Lindholm's ELC's.

Maroon, Getzlaf, Perry.
Hagelin, Kesler, Silfverberg.
Sekec, Rakell, Stewart.
Cogliano, Horcoff; until Thompson returns from LTIR, Jackman.
Spare McGratton.

Lindholm, Bieksa.
Fowler, Despres.
Vatanen, Stoner.
Manson, Holzer.

Anderson, Khodobin.

These are both cup contending teams & Anaheim plays in a stronger conference but Murray has set this team up to do what ever it wants as the season progresses to address injuries or other perceived needs with serious cap space available. NYR has no money or depth to address injuries or other unless they jettison a very good player, so if they sustain a serious injury & it will be very interesting to see how NYR can address this if required. Thankfully they hold their 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks for next season after spending all of them over the last several seasons.
- striker777

Buchnevich, Lindberg, and Bourque are other quality prospects the Rangers currently have. Lindberg will be on the team this year.

Additionally, Rangers have future draft picks in every single round except next year's 1st and a 2017 6th round pick: http://www.prosportstrans...Trades/Future/Rangers.htm

I expect the lineup to look closer to this:
Nash - Brassard - Zuccarello
Kreider - Stepan - Miller
Etem - Hayes - Fast
Stoll - Moore - Stalberg
Lindberg/Glass as extras...Lindberg likely rotating in with Stoll or Stalberg every couple games and Glass either waived or riding the bench permanently.

Stoll wasn't brought into play wing. His face off process is needed in NYR. He took 1161 faceoffs for LA winning 51%. That would have made him NYR's 2nd best face off man by winning % last season. Hayes took 681 winning 36.3%. Hayes will move to the RW.

Yes Glass will rotate in & out of the line up but Vigneault loves this player for what ever season, he will sit to allow Stalberg to play periodically. Even Etem will sit occasionally but Stoll will play full time baring injury.

Until injuries hit, NYR's 13 forwards are set & it doesn't include Linberg until someone gets injured. He is a decent prospect & is ready to advance when injuries dictate. He will be the 1st call up. Buchnevich is a decent prospect as well but with no North American experience expecting him to contribute this season seems a stretch. As for Bourque I assume your talking about Ryan & not Chris & he's not a prospect but a suspect. He was drafted 6 years ago, is a smurf at 5'9" 170 lbs & hasn't produced really at any other level. If he gets more than a cup of coffee in the NHL which he may have already had with his 1 game last season, he has no future in the NHL. His chance came & went years ago.

Stoll wasn't brought into play wing. His face off process is needed in NYR. He took 1161 faceoffs for LA winning 51%. That would have made him NYR's 2nd best face off man by winning % last season. Hayes took 681 winning 36.3%. Hayes will move to the RW.

Yes Glass will rotate in & out of the line up but Vigneault loves this player for what ever season, he will sit to allow Stalberg to play periodically. Even Etem will sit occasionally but Stoll will play full time baring injury.

Until injuries hit, NYR's 13 forwards are set & it doesn't include Linberg until someone gets injured. He is a decent prospect & is ready to advance when injuries dictate. He will be the 1st call up. Buchnevich is a decent prospect as well but with no North American experience expecting him to contribute this season seems a stretch. As for Bourque I assume your talking about Ryan & not Chris & he's not a prospect but a suspect. He was drafted 6 years ago, is a smurf at 5'9" 170 lbs & hasn't produced really at any other level. If he gets more than a cup of coffee in the NHL which he may have already had with his 1 game last season, he has no future in the NHL. His chance came & went years ago.
- striker777

Lindberg is a faceoff specialist in his own right, albeit he hasn't proven it at the NHL level yet obviously. Lindberg won over 63% of his faceoffs in 3 years in Sweden before coming over to North America and was the go-to faceoff guy in the AHL last year. The reason Lindberg will make the team this year is because he has to pass through waivers to be sent down to the AHL. He will most definitely be claimed, therefore he will be on the roster by default. Glass is more likely to find himself on waivers and in the AHL than Lindberg.

Stoll is a great faceoff player as well. So is Moore. Moore will be holding down the 4C spot, so maybe you're right when you say Stoll will slide into the 3C spot. It will be interesting to see how the lines shake out because AV would prefer to keep Hayes as the 3C so we have that size and offensive upside down the middle but Hayes is brutal at faceoffs.

Hagelin's contract is an absolute steal when compared to Benoit Pouliot's.
- rangerdanger94

how so?

same money, Pouliot played 1st line really well when Hall was out, scored 19G in 58 games, big, fast, defensively responsible, strong possession player

how so?

same money, Pouliot played 1st line really well when Hall was out, scored 19G in 58 games, big, fast, defensively responsible, strong possession player
- oilerfan94

Yea didn't realize how good of a season Pouliot had last year. I remember when he signed the deal with you, I thought it was crazy considering his career high in points was 36 and he's never gotten more than 16 goals. But 19 goals and 34 points in 58 games is good production for that cap hit.

I wasn't aware that Lindberg was waiver eligible. I looked & although it's not as easy to determine waiver eligibility as when capgeek was available, I assume you are correct & I have no reason to doubt you, then I agree with you. Someone will be exposed to protect Lindberg. NYR won't risk losing him for nothing. Glass or Stalberg appear to be the obvious candidates.

I still see him playing as a winger & over time him being worked into a C role. Stoll only signed for 1 season & it's never a bad thing to have extra C's playing on the wing. Numerous teams play C's together pushing 1 to the wing & depending upon which side of the ice faceoffs are on will switch who takes the draw.

I wasn't aware that Lindberg was waiver eligible. I looked & although it's not as easy to determine waiver eligibility as when capgeek was available, I assume you are correct & I have no reason to doubt you, then I agree with you. Someone will be exposed to protect Lindberg. NYR won't risk losing him for nothing. Glass or Stalberg appear to be the obvious candidates.

I still see him playing as a winger & over time him being worked into a C role. Stoll only signed for 1 season & it's never a bad thing to have extra C's playing on the wing. Numerous teams play C's together pushing 1 to the wing & depending upon which side of the ice faceoffs are on will switch who takes the draw.
- striker777

I look at Stoll as this year's Malone. They both provided things we desperately needed. Malone provided size, grit, the ability to chaos havoc in front of the net, and a scoring touch. Stoll provides faceoff ability and Stanley Cup winning experience.

But like Malone, if Stoll can't keep up with the speed of our system and his linemates, he will be waived. Kings fans on this site have said that Stoll's foot speed has declined, though I don't think he's as slow as Malone so we'll see. Regardless of what happens, I think the Rangers have 13 solid NHL players before we even mention Glass and AV has a lot of options. The best players in training camp will win the spots.

Agreed.

Yea didn't realize how good of a season Pouliot had last year. I remember when he signed the deal with you, I thought it was crazy considering his career high in points was 36 and he's never gotten more than 16 goals. But 19 goals and 34 points in 58 games is good production for that cap hit.
- rangerdanger94

he really is part of what has been sorely lacking in Edmonton. We're all big fans of his. Fits like a glove on the top line with RNH-Eberle

You could say his agent was haglin for a good deal!

This Ranger fan thinks asking if 4m is to much is a stupid question to ask!!!