1-Lindros-at his best he was the best...if only it lasted longer
2-Forsberg-I don't care how briefly he was a Flyer or that he was playing on one foot. It was an honor to see him play.
3-Clarkie-loved him as a player. I even loved him as a GM. He was a pisser...he'd do anything to win
4-Bernie-how can you not love Bernie
5-Pelle-seems like a lot of my favorites burned bright for a short time
6-Kimmo-so smooth, so smart
7-Van Impe-So what he was bald and slow...got to love him for that hit he put on Kharlamov
8-Gagne-just a super talented hockey player
9-Roenick-loved how much fun he had when he played
10-Briere-clutch in the playoffs - Dkos
Top 10....
Bernie
Clarke
Lindros
Pelle... time way too short...
Hextall first version
Sami Kapanen, became an all time Flyer when he played "D" in the playoffs & almost got killed
Howe, so good
McCrimmon... very solid and nasty
Danny Markov, very brief time here, but seemed kinda nuts, perfect for a Flyer D-man
Bill Flett 1 incredible year, the flowing hair and beard
Kind of interesting that sam gagner basically hasn't improved a lick since coming into the league. He came in scoring 49 pts his rookie year and he's never eclipsed 50. I guess some just flatline. I don't expect b Schenn or coots to really make big steps in their career either regarding that.
Kind of interesting that sam gagner basically hasn't improved a lick since coming into the league. He came in scoring 49 pts his rookie year and he's never eclipsed 50. I guess some just flatline. I don't expect b Schenn or coots to really make big steps in their career either regarding that. - Just5
Should they trade them now while their value is still high? Maybe then we can sign Ehrhoff or Franson.
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Aug 14 @ 5:28 PM ET
Kind of interesting that sam gagner basically hasn't improved a lick since coming into the league. He came in scoring 49 pts his rookie year and he's never eclipsed 50. I guess some just flatline. I don't expect b Schenn or coots to really make big steps in their career either regarding that. - Just5
So his point totals not going up means he hasn't improved at all as a player?
He's dealt with injuries and has been on God awful teams. Where you see a lack of improvement, I see encouraging consistency under less than ideal circumstances.
10. Claude Giroux, C: Say hello to the NHL’s top scorer over the past five seasons combined.
24. Jakub Voracek, RW (+5): The 100-point pace early last season wasn’t the real Voracek, but the career-high 81 points was. He always had a star pedigree. Some readers called me on putting him too low, and they were right.
86. Wayne Simmonds, RW: A better Lucic impersonator than Lucic in recent seasons. Love Simmonds’ goal and PIM totals, though he’ll never be a huge assists guy.
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Aug 14 @ 6:43 PM ET
My only comment was that, as hard as Clarke worked, Rod probably worked harder. In the summer, he'd go to the Coliseum every day and shoot pucks against walls on the concrete. He showed up 3 hours before games to get a run in around the concourse. No disrespect to Clarke or Kimmo, but Rod is probably the hardest working player in NHL history.
Edit: Clarke was most determined, for sure. - jmatchett383
Rod Brind'amour saved the Hurricanes franchise.
Ron Francis legitimized its existence, but Rod Brind'amour is the reason it still exists. Rod has a work ethic that is unparalleled in this sport. The guy worked tremendously hard for everything he got and the team continues to keep him around the organization exactly for that reason. The entire organization feeds off of his maniacal level of commitment.
Really good player, great person, and the physical embodiment of what it means to be a Captain in the NHL.
So his point totals not going up means he hasn't improved at all as a player?
He's dealt with injuries and has been on God awful teams. Where you see a lack of improvement, I see encouraging consistency under less than ideal circumstances. - mochoson
he's a guy that's expected to score. He doesn't really contribute much else. I just find it interesting he came in the league and he has basically stayed at the same level scoring wise. I don't know how much better hockey people around the league think he's gotten considering the haul Phoenix got trading him.
Should they trade them now while their value is still high? Maybe then we can sign Ehrhoff or Franson. - MJL
Well the coots deal doesn't really suggest they will. I just wouldn't expect coots to take that next step offensively. I don't see where in his game he's going to take another big step. Jake always had more gears, you could see it right when we got him it was just a matter of him realizing what he could with his toolbox. Coots and schenn I don't send them becoming much more than what they are
Well the coots deal doesn't really suggest they will. I just wouldn't expect coots to take that next step offensively. I don't see where in his game he's going to take another big step. Jake always had more gears, you could see it right when we got him it was just a matter of him realizing what he could with his toolbox. Coots and schenn I don't send them becoming much more than what they are - Just5
Couturier and Voracek are completely different kinds of players. Both players have the potential to elevate their games offensively. What specifically leads you to believe that they won't become much more then they are?
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Aug 14 @ 7:42 PM ET
I don't know how much better hockey people around the league think he's gotten considering the haul Phoenix got trading him - Just5
I'm partly with you. Gagner is a player who needs sheltering and even then isn't probably going to set the world on fire or dramatically improve. It may very well be a case of, he is what he is. Then again, ~50 point players don't grow on trees either, so I think it's a great gamble for a talented guy who is still only 26 and on a one year deal. He doesn't impress: he's gone. Most people would have traded Grossmann and Pronger for a low round pick and been ecstatic, so no real loss. If he puts up career average totals, still a gain imo if he can play LW. If he can produce at a rate similar to the lockout year when it looked like he broke through at a 65 pt pace, then it's a steal if it wasn't already! Arizona was atrocious offensively, and he's a complimentary winger more than a line linchpin so I'm fine overlooking that. Devil's advocate: on Edmonton, high picks like Eberle, Hall, and Chicken Nugget-Poppins managed to do well even as the team didn't, so Gagner bares some blame for his Edmonton numbers w/ regard to stagnancy.
But look at his raw talent level, him being in a contract year, him getting a fresh start on a better team (fingers crossed) than he's been on in recent memory, and that's where people get excited to see if he can succeed. I mean worst case, he has no breakthrough relative to his career numbers and puts up 45-50 points. Trade's still a win in my book.
I'm partly with you. Gagner is a player who needs sheltering and even then isn't probably going to set the world on fire or dramatically improve. It may very well be a case of, he is what he is. Then again, ~50 point players don't grow on trees either, so I think it's a great gamble for a talented guy who is still only 26 and on a one year deal. He doesn't impress: he's gone. Most people would have traded Grossmann and Pronger for a low round pick and been ecstatic, so no real loss. If he puts up career average totals, still a gain imo if he can play LW. If he can produce at a rate similar to the lockout year when it looked like he broke through at a 65 pt pace, then it's a steal if it wasn't already! Arizona was atrocious offensively, and he's a complimentary winger more than a line linchpin so I'm fine overlooking that. Devil's advocate: on Edmonton, high picks like Eberle, Hall, and Chicken Nugget-Poppins managed to do well even as the team didn't, so Gagner bares some blame for his Edmonton numbers w/ regard to stagnancy.
But look at his raw talent level, him being in a contract year, him getting a fresh start on a better team (fingers crossed) than he's been on in recent memory, and that's where people get excited to see if he can succeed. I mean worst case, he has no breakthrough relative to his career numbers and puts up 45-50 points. Trade's still a win in my book. - Mononoke
Gagner's not likely a long term solution, but the Flyers needed to upgrade their skill level, and they did that somewhat by adding Gagner. Especially if he can play the left side. There's virtually no risk for the Flyers in the deal. Really they can only gain from it. I think he's good for at least 40 points if not more. Hopefully he can add to the 2nd unit PP, assuming he's on that unit. Never know with a new coach.
22 years old here. I'm not sure I can even form a top 10 list. I don't remember watching Lindros play hockey for the Flyers. I was...6 I guess.
My top 10 is laughable. I guess I'd go
Giroux
Timonen
Foppa
Briere
Pronger
Gags
Jake
Desjardins
JR
Simmer
Honorable Mentions:
Mase
Kapanen
Prims
AMac
Rinaldo
Primeau was the first athlete I ever met. He signed my very first (real) stick. A wooden Sherwood I used for outdoor roller hockey. Real nice guy. He came to a local ice rink.
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Aug 14 @ 9:55 PM ET
What if they trade Schenn, and it turns out that Manning can't handle a regular shift, and even worse Gudas struggles, or another defenseman suffers an injury? - MJL
They miss the PO's by 15 points instead of 10? - Tomahawk
Or they miss the playoffs when they could've made it.
I know most Flyers fans are doom and gloom, and it's a "throw away" season. There's no reason to trade Schenn now, when it can be done later if the situation calls for it. That's the point that you didn't address.
And yes Virginia, it's time for another top 10 list!!
My top 10 favorite Flyers of all time!
Please go on to list all of yours, thanks
YOUR TURN!! - BiggE
1/1.A Brad McCrimmon & Mark Howe
2. Bobby Clarke
3. Bernie Parent
4. Ron Hextall
5. John LeClair
6. Brian Propp
7. Eric Lindros
8. Eric Desjardins
9. Claude Giroux
10. Pelle Lindbergh
I'm partly with you. Gagner is a player who needs sheltering and even then isn't probably going to set the world on fire or dramatically improve. It may very well be a case of, he is what he is. Then again, ~50 point players don't grow on trees either, so I think it's a great gamble for a talented guy who is still only 26 and on a one year deal. He doesn't impress: he's gone. Most people would have traded Grossmann and Pronger for a low round pick and been ecstatic, so no real loss. If he puts up career average totals, still a gain imo if he can play LW. If he can produce at a rate similar to the lockout year when it looked like he broke through at a 65 pt pace, then it's a steal if it wasn't already! Arizona was atrocious offensively, and he's a complimentary winger more than a line linchpin so I'm fine overlooking that. Devil's advocate: on Edmonton, high picks like Eberle, Hall, and Chicken Nugget-Poppins managed to do well even as the team didn't, so Gagner bares some blame for his Edmonton numbers w/ regard to stagnancy.
But look at his raw talent level, him being in a contract year, him getting a fresh start on a better team (fingers crossed) than he's been on in recent memory, and that's where people get excited to see if he can succeed. I mean worst case, he has no breakthrough relative to his career numbers and puts up 45-50 points. Trade's still a win in my book. - Mononoke
At the very least he was a very cheap (basically the Flyers dumped salary) addtion who could be rejuvenated. At the very least, maybe he can be a place holder until Konecny is ready.
