Without Schenn, we still have 7. I have no problem with having Ghost on the roster if he's going to get a regular shift and not sit. I also think Alt is very close. He, at best, will only ever be a 3rd pairing defender. That's exactly where he'd likely play a regular shift if called upon. I have faith the other players I mentioned can at least handle a cup of coffee at the NHL level if need be.
If injuries become an issue to the point where Ghost, Alt and Marti are occupying spots 5-7 and its clear they are not ready, you can address that via trade. You're talking some serious injuries going down at this point.
We're never gonna know how good any of these kids are if they don't play. We have 7 NHL dmen without any of them on the roster, or Luke Schenn. The cap space would help this team tremendously moving forward. It may even allow them to bring in a cheap FA or two into cap with a chance of realistically signing both. There's more then a handful of decent FA's still left that are gonna have to settle for PTO's. - mochoson
Are you considering Manning one of the 7 (not counting Schenn)? If so, and we have to roll for weeks with a defender down, I'd rather it be one of Gudas/Schenn/Schutz/etc. over him.
Oskar lindblom is the 46th ranked prospect in the entire league according to espn but is also the 17th ranked prospect in the flyers organization according to bsh.com
Oh the Internet - Just5
If a=b and b=c, then a=c and the Flyers must have 17 of the top 46 prospects in all of hockey. Not too shabby
Anyone think the rankings have to do with what the prospects COULD BECOME rather than what they HAVE DONE? I was surprised like most on here, but it's just a hunch at the list.
There shouldn't be any rush, but it's certainly an avenue that needs to be explored. I would hold him through camp, and look to trade him around the deadline. Never know, a team may be battling the injury bug, pressure may mount and you might get a 1st rounder for him. - VladDrag
I agree, but if the Flyers are in the playoff hunt, then what? I think they just have to let the season play out and see what happens.
Agree with all of this. There shouldn't be any rush to trade him, but I definitely think it's something Hextall should be seriously thinking about.
I think Gudas play's a regular shift, personally. However, on a new team with a new coach, we have no idea. He very well could be the odd man out.
The only reason I don't think there's anyway Luke Schenn is resigned is because of money. I don't think they'll be able to afford what he's going to want in a deal. They have Schultz, MDZ, and Streit each signed for two more seasons. They're thinking long term with D signings with guys like Provorov, Sanheim etc. in mind. Because of Luke's age, I don't think the Flyers will be able, or willing for that matter to match the deal he'll get on the FA market in years or $$$. Contrary to what many believe on this forum, he's a pretty good defensemen. I foresee his next deal being fairly lucrative, especially if he has a decent season. - mochoson
Cost could very well come into play. I just think they have to let the season play out and see what happens. See how some of the young defenseman develop, also see how the Flyers season goes.
Ehroff and franson could possibly go the tryout route
Kudos to Holmer for not only locking up amac when he did but shelling out 2 high draft picks to get the deal done. - Just5
How does the MacDonald contract stop the Flyers from offering a PTO to Ehrhoff and/or Franson? If the Flyers were really interested in signing either of those two players, is there any way they could make that happen at this point?
And yes Virginia, it's time for another top 10 list!!
My top 10 favorite Flyers of all time!
Please go on to list all of yours, thanks
1. Bobby Clarke
Simply the best, case closed. If you have any questions, see Bill's blog from yesterday.
2. Bernie Parent
I had the poster and the "Only the Lord saves more than Parent" bumper sticker on my bedroom wall. Every kid who played goal in the 70s in Philly wanted to be Bernie Parent.
3. Mark Howe
He was the epitome of class and never seemed to be out of position or make a mistake. They could BADLY use a dman like Howe today!
4. Kimmo Timonen
Next to Clarke, he was the hardest working guy to ever wear the orange and black. He was also one of the toughest, as he routinely played through injuries that would have put any other player on the shelf.
5. RicK Macleish
The Hawk had such a smooth stride and one of the nastiest wrist shots I ever saw. He was the ultimate big game player and always did his best work in the playoffs.
6. Tim Kerr
The most lethal weapon on the powerplay in team history. It was simply impossible to move him from the slot and the release on his snap shot was the fastest I ever witnessed.
7. Rod Brind'amour
Another guy who simply worked his tail off and played the game the right way. Glad he got a ring, just wish he could have gotten it here.
8. Dave Poulin
He's right up there with Howe in the class department and he was without a doubt the second best Captain in team history. Trading him for a washed up Ken Linseman was one of the worst deals Clarke ever made as a GM.
9. Eric Desjardins
Another classy, smooth skating all around great dman. He was the defensive anchor of the club for nearly a decade and was another guy who rarely, if ever, seemed to make a mistake on the ice
10. Paul Holmgren
Forget for a moment his career as a GM. As a player he was all heart and effort and tough as nails too. If you thought Pronger's stare was intimidating, go back and take a look at Holmgren. He was one of the most menacing players to ever lace em up and he is probably the only reason that Ken Linseman is alive today.
Just missed the cut
Bob "Hound" Kelly
Brad McCrimmon
Pelle Lindbergh
Ron Hextall
Jake Voracek
It's his personal favorites list, not a "best player" list. Bill Barber is in the HHOF and isn't on his list either. Strictly a matter of preference.
I'd have had Mikael Renberg on my personal favorites list somewhere. Ditto Brad Marsh. - bmeltzer
I get it. All the off ice stuff aside though, the guy pretty much gave everything he had to the Flyers, to the point where he was a shell of himself when he moved on.
By the time he was shipped out, I pretty much sided with Clarke's stance, but I have a soft spot for Lindros the player because of the brand of hockey he played and because I really got turned on to hockey at the start of the Lindros years. Was glad to see Holmgren start the fence mending and ultimately, as you described in the article about #16, Clarke and Lindros at least putting the bad stuff in the past.
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
Aug 14 @ 3:02 PM ET
Are you considering Manning one of the 7 (not counting Schenn)? If so, and we have to roll for weeks with a defender down, I'd rather it be one of Gudas/Schenn/Schutz/etc. over him. - jmatchett383
I am. That is where we differ. I'm more than convinced Brandon Manning can handle a regular NHL shift at this point.
Exactly, these were my personal favorites. A list of the 10 all time greatest Flyers would be quite different. - BiggE
Gotcha!
My List:
1. Hexy
2. Brindy
3. Lindros
4. Desjardins
5. Clarke*
6. Primeau
7. Pronger
8. Hatcher (If only because of his warm welcome to Crosby and his absolutely gutsy performance in the 2008 playoffs)
9. LeClair
10. Giroux
* 'Cause you gotta love Clarke and Parent, even if you weren't a hockey fan when they were achieving greatness
Just missed:
Parent*
Gagne 1.0
Manderville, Ranheim, Hull (they have to be together as a line though)
I am. That is where we differ. I'm more than convinced Brandon Manning can handle a regular NHL shift at this point. - mochoson
What if they trade Schenn, and it turns out that Manning can't handle a regular shift, and even worse Gudas struggles, or another defenseman suffers an injury?
I agree, but if the Flyers are in the playoff hunt, then what? I think they just have to let the season play out and see what happens. - MJL
Oh yeah, a lot of different scenarios could play out between now and then. At the moment, I say stay put with your D, then move one only if it makes sense to.
I am. That is where we differ. I'm more than convinced Brandon Manning can handle a regular NHL shift at this point. - mochoson
We definitely do differ. I've yet to see anything in his whopping 21 games over 3 seasons to show me he's ready for steady minutes over 82 games of NHL hockey.
