This guy is cut from the same cloth as Benning...

- Nucker101

- Streit2ThePoint

Ahhh yes nothing more inspirational than a guy who got shot in the face multiple times, telling you that things will get better.

Rip 2Pac

I said early this year Canucks should target Lucic and Sutter. Apparently they did both. they now can OS a top payer also .
- VANTEL

you say it like you were the first or only one. the rumours for sutter have been around for years.

also, people have been crying/wishing for lucic since his rookie year.

having said that, sutter is nothing special and lucic is going to be a colossal blunder if it ever comes to fruition.

but other than that, you're on to something.

Sutter's 21 goals last year would have made him the highest goal scoring centre on the Canucks.
- Mungo

Bonino also looked pretty good before he came here...let's see how Sutter does and at a potentially way higher price tag.

Has a good shot, good passer, decent vision as a passer. Good in the shootout. Decent on the PK.
- Nucker101

I would prefer Sven Sutter Virtanen 7 days a week over Bonino Virtanen and Sven

The dozen or so games I watched him in would concur with your statement.

What's worse: to re-sign this guy might cost around 5m+ mark.
- AlexF

Yup. Praise Benning.

Ahhh yes nothing more inspirational than a guy who got shot in the face multiple times, telling you that things will get better.

Rip 2Pac
- I-own_da-Northwest

Sutter Pros:
Very good wrist shot and backhand
Skates well, not great though
Very disciplined in penalties and positioning
Good in SO
Offensive threat on the PK
Never gets injured
Good on FOs

Cons:
loses the majority of puck battles and weak on the puck
poor passing and vision
not physical at all
no slapshot or one timer
Weak on his skates
Poor shot and goal suppression on PK
- jfkst1

Well he HAS to be more Physical than Bonino so....yeah.

I would prefer Sven Sutter Virtanen 7 days a week over Bonino Virtanen and Sven
- VANTEL

Sutter is going to cost more than that entire line. Sutter isn't much better than Bonino, I'll ask you again after this upcoming season since I have a strong feeling that you'll be less high on Sutter after you see him more.

I would have taken Ehlers as well. This team needs a pure scorer.
- we_are_all_canucks

Ditto. I was hoping for Ehlers as well on the night, just cause I wanted some excitement on this roster.

Well he HAS to be more Physical than Bonino so....yeah.
- GloveHandStrong

He's not gritty.

Ditto. I was hoping for Ehlers as well on the night, just cause I wanted some top end excitement on this roster.
- AlexF

He's not gritty.
- Nucker101

I know, what surprises me is he out-hit Bonino 86-31 WTF???

I would prefer Sven Sutter Virtanen 7 days a week over Bonino Virtanen and Sven
- VANTEL

You say that now, I'm warning you, Sutter will score some pretty goals, but he is going to be maddeningly weak in puck battles and in creating offense. There's a reason his underlying possession and production numbers are so bad.

Bonino also looked pretty good before he came here...let's see how Sutter does and at a potentially way higher price tag.
- Nucker101

in my opinion, it comes down to role. bonino is a decent centre man but is taking time away from horvat.

horvat needs 2nd line minutes and bonino is not well suited for the third line.

the best part of this trade is the fact that willie will have no option but to give horvat more of an offensive role. (he said hopefully)

Sutter is going to cost more than that entire line. Sutter isn't much better than Bonino, I'll ask you again after this upcoming season since I have a strong feeling that you'll be less high on Sutter after you see him more.
- Nucker101

But his linemates ( Vitanen and Sven ) will be cheaper than Burrows and Higgins

You say that now, I'm warning you, Sutter will score some pretty goals, but he is going to be maddeningly weak in puck battles and in creating offense. There's a reason his underlying possession and production numbers are so bad.
- jfkst1

Delete this sentence if you want to be taken seriously on this message board. You'll be labeled as a nerd and witch who doesn't watch hockey.

You say that now, I'm warning you, Sutter will score some pretty goals, but he is going to be maddeningly weak in puck battles and in creating offense. There's a reason his underlying possession and production numbers are so bad.
- jfkst1

Cant be worse than Bonino on puck battles

You say that now, I'm warning you, Sutter will score some pretty goals, but he is going to be maddeningly weak in puck battles and in creating offense. There's a reason his underlying possession and production numbers are so bad.
- jfkst1

He's good bottom six guy, but not at 5 million a year, which Benning will probably pay him

But his linemates ( Vitanen and Sven ) will be cheaper than Burrows and Higgins
- VANTEL

We'll see if WD is cool with giving them both decent minutes.

We'll see if WD is cool with giving them both decent minutes.
- Nucker101

It is either Virtanen and Sven or Vey and Kenins . Who do you chose?

in my opinion, it comes down to role. bonino is a decent centre man but is taking time away from horvat.

horvat needs 2nd line minutes and bonino is not well suited for the third line.

the best part of this trade is the fact that willie will have no option but to give horvat more of an offensive role. (he said hopefully)
- RealityChecker

My biggest issue is that we downgraded a draft pick and gave up Clendening(not that I'm high on him). And that Sutter will get a nice fat contract from JimBo that will pay him like a 2nd liner.

I'd rather just go up with WD and tell him to give Horvat more minutes and PP time and keep Bonino. Or trade Bonino for a pick or prospect at the TDL.

We'll see if WD is cool with giving them both decent minutes.
- Nucker101

the worst part is that you've got me somewhat "defending" benning's moves.

for that you will pay. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.... but you'll pay for that.

It is either Virtanen and Sven or Vey and Kenins . Who do you chose?
- VANTEL

They have Daniel, Vrbata, Burrows, Higgins, Hansen, Prust and Dorsett as 7 of the 8 veteran wingers. WD doesn't like upsetting his vets, he's loyal to a fault(his own words).

He's good bottom six guy, but not at 5 million a year, which Benning will probably pay him
- LeftCoaster

If Benning sign him 5 mil then I hope Benning trades himself at TDL