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stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jul 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
And we didn't.
- Woderwick

dammit...if I hadn't misspelled accomplished, I would have beat you there.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
Franson was hardly worse than Phaneuf
- twiztedmike

Twizted...you wrote "hardly worse" in describing Franson. That made me giggle.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
Twizted...you wrote "hardly worse" in describing Franson. That made me giggle.
- Woderwick

Franson's primary stats were better.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
dammit...if I hadn't misspelled accomplished, I would have beat you there.
- stormey

Simplicity Stormey...I'm the King of simple.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
Long story short:

Burkie Nonis gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.

- Atomic Wedgie



man those 2nd round picks used to get those 2 guys ....
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
Franson's primary stats were better.
- twiztedmike

Sorry. I still can't stop giggling. It's been a long day.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:21 PM ET
man those 2nd round picks used to get those 2 guys ....
- zazzle

That's ok...the Leafs traded a 1st to get some more.
BoTtLePoLiCe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 12.30.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:21 PM ET
True. But look at the primary stats.. very comparable.

Advanced statistics actually support Franson more than Dion

- twiztedmike

how bout watching the game? advanced stats my ass dion is a way better player.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:24 PM ET
how bout watching the game? advanced stats my ass dion is a way better player.
- BoTtLePoLiCe

right guys...

Phaneuf is so good guys he's a true #1 defenseman just like you were all saying the past 3 years!! What a great contract he's on now and now that Babcock is here he is going to win the Norris!!

Like, if you actually watched the games you would know that Dion Phaneuf is so amazing and a real #1 dman. With a real coach like Babcock he's just going to be even better!!!!
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 27 @ 3:25 PM ET
Franson's primary stats were better.
- twiztedmike

Maximus is on your side.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
right guys...

Phaneuf is so good guys he's a true #1 defenseman just like you were all saying the past 3 years!! What a great contract he's on now and now that Babcock is here he is going to win the Norris!!

Like, if you actually watched the games you would know that Dion Phaneuf is so amazing and a real #1 dman. With a real coach like Babcock he's just going to be even better!!!!

- twiztedmike

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
right guys...

Phaneuf is so good guys he's a true #1 defenseman just like you were all saying the past 3 years!! What a great contract he's on now and now that Babcock is here he is going to win the Norris!!

Like, if you actually watched the games you would know that Dion Phaneuf is so amazing and a real #1 dman. With a real coach like Babcock he's just going to be even better!!!!

- twiztedmike

But I don't like either of them.

Babcock is gonna find out he isn't being paid enough.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:27 PM ET
Our defense is so good that we don't need Franson!!

Who needs a 0.5 PPG defenseman who is 6'4 when we have the best defense in the league locked up under great contracts!!!!
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:28 PM ET
Our defense is so good that we don't need Franson!!

Who needs a 0.5 PPG defenseman who is 6'4 when we have the best defense in the league locked up under great contracts!!!!

- twiztedmike



I get what your schtick is today, and it's funny and all..

..but Franson (frank)ing stinks. Like, as in, is (frank)ing bad at hockey.

Can we move on from this?
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
I get what your schtick is today, and it's funny and all..

..but Franson (frank)ing stinks. Like, as in, is (frank)ing bad at hockey.

Can we move on from this?

- TheThrill

He doesn't stink and he was put on the wrong side in NSH

But also OH OMG HE GOT LESS ICE TIME CUZ HE SUCKS!!! And he's definitely strong on the PP which of course NSH would prefer to give minutes to Josi/Weber.

No, he's just not as good as Josi and Weber. Neither is anyone on the Leafs roster.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
I get what your schtick is today, and it's funny and all..

..but Franson (frank)ing stinks. Like, as in, is (frank)ing bad at hockey.

Can we move on from this?

- TheThrill


we never move on from anything
ever
TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
Our defense is so good that we don't need Franson!!

Who needs a 0.5 PPG defenseman who is 6'4 when we have the best defense in the league locked up under great contracts!!!!

- twiztedmike

I didn't hate Franny, but in reality who gets bumped for him? We already have 9 or 10 guys battling for those 6 spots on the team.
Phaneuf, Gardiner, Robidas, Polak, Hunwick, Rielly, Marincin, Brennan, Percy, Harrington
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
Any other Franson fans here besides me?
- twiztedmike



Wouldn't want him in my top 2 but I like his PP play
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Franson is ok as long as you have three better dmen on your team.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
I didn't hate Franny, but in reality who gets bumped for him? We already have 9 or 10 guys battling for those 6 spots on the team.
Phaneuf, Gardiner, Robidas, Polak, Hunwick, Rielly, Marincin, Brennan, Percy, Harrington

- TonkaPhaneuf



Gardiner can go back to the Marlies and work on every part of his game
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
I didn't hate Franny, but in reality who gets bumped for him? We already have 9 or 10 guys battling for those 6 spots on the team.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Lets go through the list:

Harrington... AHL
Percy.. AHL
Robidas... should retire already
Phaneuf... marginally better than Franson if at all
Marincin... needs to prove himself... could be an adequate Franson replacement actually (not really - he plays on the left side. This will be a good thing for the Leafs)
Hunwick... bottom pairing
Gardiner... has he really been better than Franson? no.
Rielly... yes. Better and needs ice time to develop so he should be given it regardless of whether he is better than Phaneuf or not.
Polak... ... 4-6 defenseman
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
Sorry, Uncle lou fans


http://www.tsn.ca/big-pic...e-recent-reality-1.336388
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
Who is this guy ?? New fella ?
- bixll


Is this an inside joke or your way of telling me he is pretty much just an afterthought?

I think with the minimal ice time he gets he has done pretty well. He's no superstar but I think he has done pretty well.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 27 @ 3:38 PM ET
Long story short:

Burkie gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.

- Atomic Wedgie




Nobody can foresee injuries...if he stayed healthy I would have bet on us making the playoffs and him still being here.

Imo
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Jul 27 @ 3:39 PM ET
Friends don't let friends like Franson.

Franson. Just say no!
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