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IT'S OFFICIAL: Franson takes hometown discount and resigns with Leafs. 3 years 8 million.

guys just kidding
- twiztedmike

8 years for 3 million would be too much. Can you sign a guy for $375,000 per?

the first year will be tough.

we are going to see some young guys like holland who might not fit babcock's style and approach.

this will be a year of lineup juggling.
- Dozzer

I don't understand the reasoning of keeping Dion for a year under Babcock to increase his value.

Pronger wouldn't look good behind this lineup. I think it will be a hard year to be a Leaf D or goalie.


If...that is indeed the reason for keeping him.

8 years for 3 million would be too much. Can you sign a guy for $375,000 per?
- Woderwick

They got good value for him at the deadline last year.

Why not sign him and play him till he drops. The full 2 minutes of every powerplay. Let him get 40 points and hope lightening strikes twice.



Wow...almost a full contradiction of my last post.

Babcock will love Hollands fly by's.
- Woderwick

I stopped watching games almost all together the second half of last season but I thought Holland was doing pretty well down low, cycling the puck and with his board play?

I stopped watching games almost all together the second half of last season but I thought Holland was doing pretty well down low, cycling the puck and with his board play?
- markmark

He's a bit lazy as far as I'm concerned - this with regard to the forecheck and his nearly famous fly by. A stop and start would do wonders for him...but that's hard - I know...I don't like them either.

I stopped watching games almost all together the second half of last season but I thought Holland was doing pretty well down low, cycling the puck and with his board play?
- markmark

Who is this guy ?? New fella ?

They got good value for him at the deadline last year.

Why not sign him and play him till he drops. The full 2 minutes of every powerplay. Let him get 40 points and hope lightening strikes twice.



Wow...almost a full contradiction of my last post.
- stormey

Once bitten, twice shy.

He's a bit lazy as far as I'm concerned - this with regard to the forecheck and his nearly famous fly by. A stop and start would do wonders for him...but that's hard - I know...I don't like them either.
- Woderwick

The kids won't do that around Babcock..

Who is this guy ?? New fella ?
- bixll

The kids won't do that around Babcock..
- bixll

I wouldn't think so.

I wouldn't think so.
- Woderwick

Only one leader on the ice during his practices. Military precision.

i am actually liking the lineup

its a team full of character, not talent. good guys to move at the deadline, good guys to have around the younger guys to teach work ethic too.

but not so talented that it could launch them up the standings so that they arent in a position to draft a core piece next summer.
- Dozzer

You know I love you, right?

This team is full of character?

Here's the line-up, and my comments:

JVR-Kadri-PAP: Lazy franker unwilling to pay the price - giant question mark on character - Ask a Habs fan if PA has any character whatsoever

Lupul-Bozak-Matthias: Not exactly a guy associated with the word "trenches" - Last on the ice, first off the ice - Don't know yet, but I think I may like him

Arcobello-Holland-Panik: Don't know, don't care X 2, Panik is a floater

Komarov-Spaling-Winnik: Don't care X 3


Phaneuf-Polak: I like Phaneuf, but I'm assuming you don't, Polak is over-rated in every department by Leafs fans, including character

Rielly-Gardiner: I like Rielly, but if we are relying on the character of a 14 year old, we are in trouble, Gardiner refuses to listen to coaches

Marincin-Robidas: Don't know, don't like him

This is a team with loads of character?

You know I love you, right?

This team is full of character?

Here's the line-up, and my comments:

JVR-Kadri-PAP: Lazy franker unwilling to pay the price - giant question mark on character - Ask a Habs fan if PA has any character whatsoever

Lupul-Bozak-Matthias: Not exactly a guy associated with the word "trenches" - Last on the ice, first off the ice - Don't know yet, but I think I may like him

Arcobello-Holland-Panik: Don't know, don't care X 2, Panik is a floater

Komarov-Spaling-Winnik: Don't care X 3


Phaneuf-Polak: I like Phaneuf, but I'm assuming you don't, Polak is over-rated in every department by Leafs fans, including character

Rielly-Gardiner: I like Rielly, but if we are relying on the character of a 14 year old, we are in trouble, Gardiner refuses to listen to coaches

Marincin-Robidas: Don't know, don't like him

This is a team with loads of character?
- Atomic Wedgie

So, I love it.

but... but... truculence!!!!

Big defenseman with a nice shot & pass. I'm a fan. I don't think he's significantly better or worse than Phaneuf
- twiztedmike

If Phaneuf was a free agent on July 1st, Phaneuf would have signed a new contract on July 1st.

Today is July 27, and Franson is still looking for work.

This is my really gentle way of saying to you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Did it work?

They got good value for him at the deadline last year.

Why not sign him and play him till he drops. The full 2 minutes of every powerplay. Let him get 40 points and hope lightening strikes twice.



Wow...almost a full contradiction of my last post.
- stormey

If he was willing to take a 1 year deal he would have signed somewhere by now

Who is this guy ?? New fella ?
- bixll

Long story short:

Burkie gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.

If Phaneuf was a free agent on July 1st, Phaneuf would have signed a new contract on July 1st.

Today is July 27, and Franson is still looking for work.

This is my really gentle way of saying to you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Did it work?
- Atomic Wedgie

judge for yourself if it worked by my response:

GFY.

If Phaneuf was a free agent on July 1st, Phaneuf would have signed a new contract on July 1st.

Today is July 27, and Franson is still looking for work.

This is my really gentle way of saying to you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Did it work?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think it did.

Little redundant for the rest of us though.

Long story short:

Burkie gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think it did.

Little redundant for the rest of us though.
- stormey

Franson was hardly worse than Phaneuf

If he was willing to take a 1 year deal he would have signed somewhere by now
- Sammich

Yeah...good point.

Well then....(frank) him!

Franson was hardly worse than Phaneuf
- twiztedmike

If Phaneuf made what Franson did you would not say that.

Long story short:

Burkie gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.
- Atomic Wedgie

And we didn't.

Long story short:

Burkie gave up way too much to get Bolland.

Ended up losing Bolland for absolutely nothing.

So MLSEL went out and got Holland, hoping no one would notice.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well then.....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

If Phaneuf made what Franson did you would not say that.
- stormey

True. But look at the primary stats.. very comparable.

Advanced statistics actually support Franson more than Dion