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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
Fair nuff, hope you're right. I didn't see the "hands" you want in a scorer, but the rest of his game is good.
- BiggE


Farnham should have gotten the extra 2 for removing his helmet.

benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 2:37 PM ET
Farnham should have gotten the extra 2 for removing his helmet.


- jmatchett383


PEB got him GOOD
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Farnham should have gotten the extra 2 for removing his helmet.


- jmatchett383

Haha
yup, nothing wrong with his hands there
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Where did I say this? I said I'd rather him play on the 3rd than Umberger, that's all, and considering Umby was our worst forward last year (and it remains to be seen if he won't be this year) that's not exactly the highest of praise lol. The Schenn/PEB/Simmer line actually did really good work when it was together last year. He's a super super solid 4th liner on a good playoff team who can be moved up in a pinch from time to time. Doesn't mean he's a bonafide top 9 lock, just has versatility. Feanor gave a 20 point estimate in regards to potential. I agree. And that's elite 4th line production with what else he brings. I never said he's a third liner.
- Mononoke



Depends on what Umberger shows up. I personally feel the best spot for both Bellmare and the team is at 4th line center. He adds speed and puck pressure at that spot, and he can play with pace.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
PEB got him GOOD
- benjichronic


I agree. That said, Farnham could have hammered him before and after the fight and didn't. You could tell her really wanted to afterwards.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
I agree. That said, Farnham could have hammered him before and after the fight and didn't. You could tell her really wanted to afterwards.
- jmatchett383


Could've? Yes. Should've? Nope. He got knocked right to the ice with that punch from frenchy. Just cuz his ass hit the ice first he should've refrained which he did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:08 PM ET
Could've? Yes. Should've? Nope. He got knocked right to the ice with that punch from frenchy. Just cuz his ass hit the ice first he should've refrained which he did.
- benjichronic


Absolutely. I think he intended they both ditch the hats since PEB has a visor, but when PEB didn't, I think he got pissed. Still, stupid of him to drop his without asking PEB to do the same.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
You said:


- Feanor

Which is why I said AND he could be sent to the minors....inferring that he can't be moved, which is pretty well known around these parts. You bored, dude?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:18 PM ET
Which is why I said AND he could be sent to the minors....inferring that he can't be moved, which is pretty well known around these parts. You bored, dude?
- GOA88


I think you're both very cute and very right.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:29 PM ET
Holtby 5 years $30.5M ($6.1M per). Why did this take so long? Wasn't this more or less what the Caps were offering?
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 3:31 PM ET
Absolutely. I think he intended they both ditch the hats since PEB has a visor, but when PEB didn't, I think he got pissed. Still, stupid of him to drop his without asking PEB to do the same.
- jmatchett383


and dropping the helmet is a penalty is it? Good for peb not risking getting extra penalty minutes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
and dropping the helmet is a penalty is it? Good for peb not risking getting extra penalty minutes.
- benjichronic


Yes, Farnham should have gotten the extra 2.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
Holtby gets 5 years at $6.1m AAV.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:05 PM ET
Holtby 5 years $30.5M ($6.1M per). Why did this take so long? Wasn't this more or less what the Caps were offering?
- jmatchett383


That's less than what I heard they were offering lol I heard 6.2 mil per is what they were offering.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
That's less than what I heard they were offering lol I heard 6.2 mil per is what they were offering.
- benjichronic


He was asking for $8M, they wanted $5.5-$6M multiple years. I think he wanted 1 year.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:13 PM ET
He was asking for $8M, they wanted $5.5-$6M multiple years. I think he wanted 1 year.
- jmatchett383


ahhh okay. I was way off.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 24 @ 4:41 PM ET
Caps sign Holtby 5 yr $30.5 mil
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
Caps sign Holtby 5 yr $30.5 mil
- Streit2ThePoint

Flyers draft Provorov.

Sorry I'm bored counting the minutes till I can get out of here.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
Flyers draft Provorov.

Sorry I'm bored counting the minutes till I can get out of here.

- Fryman4


11 minutes for me


weekend so close I can already feel myself getting drunk
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

Jul 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
11 minutes for me


weekend so close I can already feel myself getting drunk

- benjichronic


I'm stuck here til 5:30

Sometimes we have beer around the office. Not today though, really wish we did so I could get started.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:02 PM ET
I want to see him at 25% ozone and on a line with Umberger and VDV
- PhillySportsGuy


Watch tapes of last year
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
Caps sign Holtby 5 yr $30.5 mil
- Streit2ThePoint

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Yep, yep. Ease it back a bit, not a ton and you have more balance and are giving him more of a fair shake. That's all, he will always take the hardest minutes. Here's the kicker though....look at the leaders in Rel QoC, and then check out their Rel Quality of Teammate:

Fehr: 1.777 Rel QoC / -2.167 Rel QoT
Ward: 1.655 / -2.174
Couture: 1.591 / 1.071
Marleau: 1.584 / .722
Hossa: 1.522 / 1.554
David Jones: 1.504 / -.062
Toews: 1.496 / .993
Read: 1.475 / -1.415
Coots: 1.422 / -2.340
Bergeron: 1.413 / 4.675

Notice who has the best Rel QoT (Bergeron). Who has the worst? Coots. That's where that comparison falls apart. And Coots also has a whole heck of a lot more potential than perennial third liners Fehr and Ward who are his next closest in terms of crappy QoT. Something has to give.

- Mononoke


Agreed. I'd be happy to see him with Simmonds, ecstatic to see him get Voracek
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
bSchenn-Couturier-Simmonds
Read-Laughton-Gagner
Bellemare-White-Cousins
VDV


Keep the complete trash off the team.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
Flyers draft Provorov.

Sorry I'm bored counting the minutes till I can get out of here.

- Fryman4

tell me about it i just gave my 2 week notice today
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