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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:20 AM ET
Hey, he came exactly as advertised: Will score you some pretty goals and not much else. He was also great at leaving games early if he wasn't listed in the starting lineup upon arrival.
- jmatchett383


Pretty much. Guy had skill, but not much else.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Per-Erik "Pelle" Eklund ??
- acd513


Ohhh....I can't believe that one got missed.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Jul 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
Yeah, I wonder if they can up with line combos to get at least one plus skater on each line?

Maybe something like:

Raffl-Giroux-Gagner
Umberger-Schenn-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds

Nah, I just don't like those combos. If they just had one more quality LW, this would be a lot easier.



- BiggE


Who do you (or anybody for that matter) think has a better shot at developing into a true #2 center,Schenn or Couts? and why?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:24 AM ET
Per-Erik "Pelle" Eklund ??
- acd513

Nice player, not one of my personal faves though. Not knocking him, just liked these other guys more.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
Per-Erik "Pelle" Eklund ??
- acd513


seriously. epic fail.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
Who do you (or anybody for that matter) think has a better shot at developing into a true #2 center,Schenn or Couts? and why?
- VladDrag



Couturier in my opinion.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
Who do you (or anybody for that matter) think has a better shot at developing into a true #2 center,Schenn or Couts? and why?
- VladDrag

Probably Couturier, because I want my #2 center to play a complete 200 ft game.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
Yeah, I wonder if they can up with line combos to get at least one plus skater on each line?

Maybe something like:

Raffl-Giroux-Gagner
Umberger-Schenn-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds

Nah, I just don't like those combos. If they just had one more quality LW, this would be a lot easier.



- BiggE


Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couts-Schenn
Gagner-Lecavalier/Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-Bellemare-White
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
seriously. epic fail.
- hammarby31


Make your own list then, lol
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couts-Schenn
Gagner-Lecavalier/Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-Bellemare-White

- GOA88


Gagner-Lecavalier-Simmonds would be horrible defensively and their possession numbers would likely be awful
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
Ohhh....I can't believe that one got missed.
- johndewar


And the name of the Norwegian guy literally gave his left N** for the team??
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
Nice player, not one of my personal faves though. Not knocking him, just liked these other guys more.
- BiggE


Miro Dvorak

"Now dash avay, dash avay, dash avay all"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
And the name of the Norwegian guy literally gave his left N** for the team??
- Steelmanpa


Patrick "I checked the defenseman into the goalie so Kapanen could score" Thoresen
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:29 AM ET
There may be a couple guys in a local beer league ahead of Vinny on the depth chart.
- BiggE


There are guys at the bar with muffin tops who are ahead of Vinny on the depth chart
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 24 @ 11:30 AM ET
Gagner-Lecavalier-Simmonds would be horrible defensively and their possession numbers would likely be awful
- BiggE

Then insert Laughton. I just see Vinny playing. I cant imagine him in the pressbox for another season with that contract. Also...if hes going to be successful, he needs wingers that can play. Not VandeVelde and company.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Couts-Schenn
Gagner-Lecavalier/Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-Bellemare-White

- GOA88


They re-signed VDV, and Hakstol coached him at UND. I think he's going to be in the lineup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:33 AM ET
Then insert Laughton. I just see Vinny playing. I cant imagine him in the pressbox for another season with that contract. Also...if hes going to be successful, he needs wingers that can play. Not VandeVelde and company.
- GOA88



I don't believe coaches look at cap hit when choosing who to play, and where, and for how much.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 24 @ 11:34 AM ET
I don't believe coaches look at cap hit when choosing who to play, and where, and for how much.
- MJL

They do to an extent. Vinny and Umberger will absolutely get playing time even though they may not earn it. BOOK IT
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 24 @ 11:34 AM ET
Who do you (or anybody for that matter) think has a better shot at developing into a true #2 center,Schenn or Couts? and why?
- VladDrag


coots. I think schenn looked really good on his off wing at the end of the year, and coots I think has good playmaking ability, and he's of course a sound defensive player which is a must if you're a center unless you're Tavares, stamkos, seguin, etc.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
Patrick "I checked the defenseman into the goalie so Kapanen could score" Thoresen
- jmatchett383


I don't think I ever rooted for a guy to score a goal more than I did Patrick Thoresen.

GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jul 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
They re-signed VDV, and Hakstol coached him at UND. I think he's going to be in the lineup.
- PLindbergh31

He will. I would not count on him playing all 82 games, though. He'll be in and out of the lineup most likely. IMO. Just a tweener....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
They do to an extent. Vinny and Umberger will absolutely get playing time even though they may not earn it. BOOK IT
- GOA88



To a very small extent, if any at all. Umberger and Lecavalier's playing time will be determined by how well they actually play, not their cap hit. That's the GM's problem.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't think I ever rooted for a guy to score a goal more than I did Patrick Thoresen.
- johndewar


Guy had ball
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
Make your own list then, lol
- BiggE


no.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:36 AM ET
semin to the habs. 1 year.
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