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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
Anyone know what kind of skater Gagner is?
- johndewar


From what I've seen, he seems to be an average NHL skater.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:43 AM ET
Anyone know what kind of skater Gagner is?
- johndewar

slow
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

Jul 24 @ 9:44 AM ET
Was Holtbys arbitration hearing yesterday or is that today?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
Anyone know what kind of skater Gagner is?
- johndewar


Generally upright
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
Was Holtbys arbitration hearing yesterday or is that today?
- Fryman4


today
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
Generally upright
- jmatchett383


hyperbole!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
hyperbole!
- BiggE


YOU QUIET DOWN AND KEEP DRINKING YOUR SCOTCH!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
This I agree with
- 3flyerkids


The Flyers are probably, at best, a bubble playoff team. So roll with Umberger and Lecavalier one more season since more likely than not there's no real chance of the team getting anywhere near the cup, and get rid of them next summer while perhaps getting another decent draft pick. Of course I'm hopeful Umberger has a bit of a comeback year this upcoming season after his surgeries and whatnot. If he can play solid D while chipping in 10+ goals, though still not great production for his cap hit, it would be a helpful addition to the team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:50 AM ET
YOU QUIET DOWN AND KEEP DRINKING YOUR SCOTCH!
- jmatchett383


DON'T YOU TELL ME....wait, then again, that sounds like a plan!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
Well, in his only OHL year, as a 17-year-old, he did put up over 100 points. He was then thrown to the wolves and a 18-year-old in Edmonton and, well...yeah. So he definitely has the tools.
- jmatchett383


Put him and Couts together and tell them it's not the NHL, it's not the NHL...

I'm excited to see what he can do. Gagner, Medvedev and Marti. Looking forward to seeing them all in O&B.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
The Flyers are probably, at best, a bubble playoff team. So roll with Umberger and Lecavalier one more season since more likely than not there's no real chance of the team getting anywhere near the cup, and get rid of them next summer while perhaps getting another decent draft pick. Of course I'm hopeful Umberger has a bit of a comeback year this upcoming season after his surgeries and whatnot. If he can play solid D while chipping in 10+ goals, though still not great production for his cap hit, it would be a helpful addition to the team.
- wolfhounds


I'm cool with this. Also, Vinny can be very helpful with gathering up the pucks after practice.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
From yesterday's blog: First game

It was in 92-93 or 93-94, can't remember which. It was against the Quebec Nordiques. Claude Boivin was on the cover of "Flyers" magazine (I don't remember if I got the player insert or not). There was a string band that played maybe 3 rows above us at one point, and there were guys handing out scoresheets after the first and second period (only time I've ever seen that happen at a game, same for my dad). I seem to remember Dave Tippett scoring a goal, which would make it possibly November 4, 1993.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
DON'T YOU TELL ME....wait, then again, that sounds like a plan!

- BiggE


It's Friday. And it might as well be lunch time right now. Pour yourself a finger or two and get the weekend started!
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

Jul 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
today
- jmatchett383

Do you think they come to an agreement before?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
Put him and Couts together and tell them it's not the NHL, it's not the NHL...

I'm excited to see what he can do. Gagner, Medvedev and Marti. Looking forward to seeing them all in O&B.

- wolfhounds


What makes me nervous, is that outside of Voracek, Raffl and Read (assuming he is healthy), there is a real lack of speed among the Flyers top 9 forwards.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
Generally upright
- jmatchett383


Well, that's more than we can say for Brayden Schenn, I guess.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
It's Friday. And it might as well be lunch time right now. Pour yourself a finger or two and get the weekend started!
- wolfhounds

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
From yesterday's blog: First game

It was in 92-93 or 93-94, can't remember which. It was against the Quebec Nordiques. Claude Boivin was on the cover of "Flyers" magazine (I don't remember if I got the player insert or not). There was a string band that played maybe 3 rows above us at one point, and there were guys handing out scoresheets after the first and second period (only time I've ever seen that happen at a game, same for my dad). I seem to remember Dave Tippett scoring a goal, which would make it possibly November 4, 1993.

- jmatchett383


Who could forget the immortal Claude Boivin?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
Who could forget the immortal Claude Boivin?
- BiggE


Almost as good as Jason Bowen.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
What makes me nervous, is that outside of Voracek, Raffl and Read (assuming he is healthy), there is a real lack of speed among the Flyers top 9 forwards.
- BiggE


Some of them do look like they are pulling a rickshaw across the ice at times...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
Almost as good as Jason Bowen.
- jmatchett383


Well, at least they both had better careers than Ryan Sittler









TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
The Flyers are probably, at best, a bubble playoff team. So roll with Umberger and Lecavalier one more season since more likely than not there's no real chance of the team getting anywhere near the cup, and get rid of them next summer while perhaps getting another decent draft pick. Of course I'm hopeful Umberger has a bit of a comeback year this upcoming season after his surgeries and whatnot. If he can play solid D while chipping in 10+ goals, though still not great production for his cap hit, it would be a helpful addition to the team.
- wolfhounds


I agree with this. This year really is about Hakstol installing his system, Hextall determining who is a fit in said system, and making roster adjustments accordingly. Helping the last point involves trading a couple of dman and resolving the Vinnie fiasco. I think there is a chance that RJ bounces back somewhat, but if not then he'll need to get moved as well.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Well, at least they both had better careers than Ryan Sittler










- BiggE


Well, none of them are quite on the level of Patrick Juhlin. Or Vladislav Bulin (still playing in the KHL at 43, according to wikipedia).
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
What makes me nervous, is that outside of Voracek, Raffl and Read (assuming he is healthy), there is a real lack of speed among the Flyers top 9 forwards.
- BiggE


Absolutely agree. If Konecny and Aube-Kubel can work their way into the lineup over the next 2 years, that would help. They need one more speedy winger on the left though, preferably someone with size.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Some of them do look like they are pulling a rickshaw across the ice at times...
- wolfhounds


Yeah, I wonder if they can up with line combos to get at least one plus skater on each line?

Maybe something like:

Raffl-Giroux-Gagner
Umberger-Schenn-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Simmonds

Nah, I just don't like those combos. If they just had one more quality LW, this would be a lot easier.


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