My dad is a really nice, outgoing, friendly guy for the most part, and he'd never discourage someone from liking whatever they're into. But when it comes to the GD, he just sees them as a pre-77 and post-77 band. - jmatchett383
That's fair. I'm actually reading Dennis McNally's "A Long Strange Trip" right now. I really bought that book for my ex-wife 10 years or so ago and it turned up in a box I found in the attic. Go figure.
My dad is a really nice, outgoing, friendly guy for the most part, and he'd never discourage someone from liking whatever they're into. But when it comes to the GD, he just sees them as a pre-77 and post-77 band. - jmatchett383
That's how I am with pearl jam. Pre '96 is great, post '96 is a band that got soft.
Their 4th had some good stuff on it, after that it just all got too "adult alternative rock" for me. - benjichronic
Yeah that and Vedder blathers on about politics too much for me. I don't go to a concert to hear the artists views on current events. Zappa said it best, "shut up and play yer guitar!"
Oh, and BTW, Zappa and the Mothers were another fantastic group!
Yeah that and Vedder blathers on about politics too much for me. I don't go to a concert to hear the artists views on current events. Zappa said it best, "shut up and play yer guitar!"
Oh, and BTW, Zappa and the Mothers were another fantastic group! - BiggE
No one on here ever mentions the Velvet Underground. The vast amount of time spent listening wasn't wasted.
I know all of you audiophiles will disagree because it's not super technical or hard to play, but I'll always take a band that can get this kind of reaction, has this kind of intimacy with their fans, and doesn't need a barricade to feel safe over 4 dudes up there playing the most technical piece of music ever created with 5 layers of security standing on a 15-foot-high stage where everyone just stands still for 3 hours.
- jmatchett383
This was back when hardcore meant something. All those late 80's NYC bands were amazing.
Yeah that and Vedder blathers on about politics too much for me. I don't go to a concert to hear the artists views on current events. Zappa said it best, "shut up and play yer guitar!"
Oh, and BTW, Zappa and the Mothers were another fantastic group! - BiggE
I don't mind the politics to an extent. Whether I agree with it or not, ya kinda have to expect to hear that nonsense once in a while when you're seeing big egos up on stage.
Yeah that and Vedder blathers on about politics too much for me. I don't go to a concert to hear the artists views on current events. Zappa said it best, "shut up and play yer guitar!"
Oh, and BTW, Zappa and the Mothers were another fantastic group! - BiggE
Yeah that and Vedder blathers on about politics too much for me. I don't go to a concert to hear the artists views on current events. Zappa said it best, "shut up and play yer guitar!"
Oh, and BTW, Zappa and the Mothers were another fantastic group! - BiggE
That's the one trouble with a Pearl jam show. You get your money's worth with music, but the (frank)ing diatribes go on for days. But if you go take a leak/get more booze when Vedder's rambling, the rest of the show is tight.
Another good live act that generally avoids the political nonsense is Sammy Hagar. Sure a lot of his stuff is cheese, but his band is good and sounds fantastic and it's a fun show. I kind of want to go see his mash up The Circle. It's him, Vic Johnson on guitar, Michael Anthony on bass and Jason Bonham on drums
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I enjoy Pearl Jam's Ten, but I think Vs. (heck maybe even Vitalogy) is a better album. Ten just feels a little generic when I go back to it. But part of it is the songs are overplayed big time respective to the rest of their works. Black and Jeremy I have a little higher tolerance to for some reason. Maybe it's their song structures -- they have terrific builds. PJ after those albums kinda bores me
I enjoy Pearl Jam's Ten, but I think Vs. (heck maybe even Vitalogy) is a better album. Ten just feels a little generic when I go back to it. But part of it is the songs are overplayed big time respective to the rest of their works. Black and Jeremy I have a little higher tolerance to for some reason. Maybe it's their song structures -- they have terrific builds. PJ after those albums kinda bores me - Mononoke
I actually like No Code and Yield the best of their albums. More eclectic sampling of tunes. Might be because you often don't hear stuff off those two on the radio.
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That's the one trouble with a Pearl jam show. You get your money's worth with music, but the (frank)ing diatribes go on for days. But if you go take a leak/get more booze when Vedder's rambling, the rest of the show is tight.
Another good live act that generally avoids the political nonsense is Sammy Hagar. Sure a lot of his stuff is cheese, but his band is good and sounds fantastic and it's a fun show. I kind of want to go see his mash up The Circle. It's him, Vic Johnson on guitar, Michael Anthony on bass and Jason Bonham on drums - Jsaquella
I have ZERO problems if the song is political or message based provided the song is great to listen to. Someone mentioned U2, and while I'm not the biggest U2 fan, I enjoy a fair amount of their work, even with the messages. What gets me though is artists acting like socio-political Hermes' in concerts (and elsewhere). It's like, listen, you're a great musician, and perhaps you even do a great job conveying messages in your songs, but cool it a bit haha. We don't want speeches and lectures! (even those we agree with)
Leight since I was working...but...
IPod could mean an electronic techno euro music component to the flyers hb jam session.
Think sprockets from SNL - Steelmanpa
Actually it's just a mp3 player filled with a weird mix of tunes. My boss hates driving with me, because I listen to literally everything.
We had to drive from Wildwood to Cherry Hill and the first 5 songs that came on were Iron Maiden, Dave Brubeck, Zac Brown, Brian May & Gershwin's Rhapsody In Blue, at that point he said, can you just pick one style and leave it there.
I have ZERO problems if the song is political or message based provided the song is great to listen to. Someone mentioned U2, and while I'm not the biggest U2 fan, I enjoy a fair amount of their work, even with the messages. What gets me though is artists acting like socio-political Hermes' in concerts (and elsewhere). It's like, listen, you're a great musician, and perhaps you even do a great job conveying messages in your songs, but cool it a bit haha. We don't want speeches and lectures! (even those we agree with) - Mononoke
Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm not going to walk out of a Springsteen show if he played a song like Born In The USA, or Fogerty if he cranks up Fortunate Son.
But the monologues between songs, while the guitar tech is re-tuning a Les Paul or whatever, and we get a half-assed opinion on whatever...much better to have David Lee Roth saying he's going to bang my girlfriend or hear how Springsteen's dad hated his guitar.
If I'm voting because Eddie Vedder or Ted Nugent feels a certain way, I shouldn't be voting.
I have ZERO problems if the song is political or message based provided the song is great to listen to. Someone mentioned U2, and while I'm not the biggest U2 fan, I enjoy a fair amount of their work, even with the messages. What gets me though is artists acting like socio-political Hermes' in concerts (and elsewhere). It's like, listen, you're a great musician, and perhaps you even do a great job conveying messages in your songs, but cool it a bit haha. We don't want speeches and lectures! (even those we agree with) - Mononoke
Their act just became too much. It became more about them then the music.
I enjoy Pearl Jam's Ten, but I think Vs. (heck maybe even Vitalogy) is a better album. Ten just feels a little generic when I go back to it. But part of it is the songs are overplayed big time respective to the rest of their works. Black and Jeremy I have a little higher tolerance to for some reason. Maybe it's their song structures -- they have terrific builds. PJ after those albums kinda bores me - Mononoke
Jeremy is a well constructed song. The 12 string bass holds that song down. I think Ten is far from generic. It had wailing guitar which at the time was pretty commercial, but they did it in a different, hard rock/ punk fused way that no one else was doing. Nirvana was going for more of a pure punk alternative sound, soundgarden was trying to just wail on guitars and have chris sing as crazy as he could, AIC was just another hair band, PJ (imo) were the most original of the grunge era. And that's not to say the other grunge bands weren't original, because they all were. My favorite era of music
Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm not going to walk out of a Springsteen show if he played a song like Born In The USA, or Fogerty if he cranks up Fortunate Son.
But the monologues between songs, while the guitar tech is re-tuning a Les Paul or whatever, and we get a half-assed opinion on whatever...much better to have David Lee Roth saying he's going to bang my girlfriend or hear how Springsteen's dad hated his guitar.
If I'm voting because Eddie Vedder or Ted Nugent feels a certain way, I shouldn't be voting. - Jsaquella
I'm one of the biggest eddie vedder fan boys, but you are correct sir, if I'm voting based of what that herb eddie is saying, I should be shot
