I'm not even mad at the sabres. You do what you have to do. The pens were just pathetic. Look at them. 2 freaking superstars one a generational talent and still the team is up for sale
- Just5

And there are good ones in the next draft so even if they still struggle this year they'll add another solid talent to what they are building.

I read quickly and thought it said Moses. Ma bad
- PhillySportsGuy

That was the day I bailed on the Sixers. I (frank)ing hated them for years after Moses got traded.

And at some point they need to go forward, getting assets are good but if you don't make good use of them then what's the point
- ob18

If things fell differently, they'd be much further along. They were going to get Wiggins but then Embiid got hurt so the Cavs took Wiggins. They didn't plan on taking Saric either but he dropped and the guy they wanted was taken.

The whole philosophy has been to not pass up the better talent simply due to impatience

And at some point they need to go forward, getting assets are good but if you don't make good use of them then what's the point
- ob18

I agree. i said to PSG last night that they are entering phase 2 now. The time of counting on being a top 3 pick is over. Continue to acquire assets but they will need to use them in trades soon. Build around Noel and Okafor and hopefully they will develop enough to attract free agents.

If things fell differently, they'd be much further along. They were going to get Wiggins but then Embiid got hurt so the Cavs took Wiggins. They didn't plan on taking Saric either but he dropped and the guy they wanted was taken.

The whole philosophy has been to not pass up the better talent simply due to impatience
- PhillySportsGuy

It may seem slow but hinkie had had control for just 2 years. I'm just hoping the nba draft next year isn't really as weak as it's looking. Sixers are going to own that first round

It may seem slow but hinkie had had control for just 2 years. I'm just hoping the nba draft next year isn't really as weak as it's looking. Sixers are going to own that first round
- Just5

Russell wasn't even on the radar at this point last year. It's impossible to grade a draft class a year out

If things fell differently, they'd be much further along. They were going to get Wiggins but then Embiid got hurt so the Cavs took Wiggins. They didn't plan on taking Saric either but he dropped and the guy they wanted was taken.

The whole philosophy has been to not pass up the better talent simply due to impatience
- PhillySportsGuy

who are you saying they wanted with the Saric pick? Stauskas?

who are you saying they wanted with the Saric pick? Stauskas?
- Crimsoninja

Yeah. They got him anyway

Yeah. They got him anyway
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree. i said to PSG last night that they are entering phase 2 now. The time of counting on being a top 3 pick is over. Continue to acquire assets but they will need to use them in trades soon. Build around Noel and Okafor and hopefully they will develop enough to attract free agents.
- Crimsoninja

A point guard would be nice.

A point guard would be nice.
- ob18

agreed

That's the last time the Sixers had two legit stars on the same team
- PhillySportsGuy

A.I and larry brown.

man... i know it's summer, NHL offseason and the phillies are embarrassing but do we need to discuss the other two fecal stain organizations?

A.I and larry brown.
- JoeRussomanno

If things fell differently, they'd be much further along. They were going to get Wiggins but then Embiid got hurt so the Cavs took Wiggins. They didn't plan on taking Saric either but he dropped and the guy they wanted was taken.

The whole philosophy has been to not pass up the better talent simply due to impatience
- PhillySportsGuy

With a very possible 4 first round picks next year, and Saric coming over, the 6ers' future isn't too far away.

I miss him already

I miss him already
- PhillySportsGuy

i even posted a semi-supportive response in support of Ek


gone

i even posted a semi-supportive response in support of Ek


gone
- Crimsoninja

Full marks for creating an account just to rip Ek

Full marks for creating an account just to rip Ek
- PhillySportsGuy

so 2009

its a shame that the league and the cap is the way it is, but honestly look around the league at all the teams that are LEGIT contenders. They ALL have superstars that they drafted at the very top of the draft.

I hate tanking too, but in the NBA, unless you build around high draft picks, you will be in no man's land
- Crimsoninja

The NBA's rules practically encourage tanking.

NBA fans that whine about what the Sixers are doing don't seem to understand that.

Since I stumbled on to bballbuzz.com, here are my thoughts on the Sixers. The NBA is a different animal than the other pro leagues. Realistically you are counting on about 7 players to win a championship, of which 2 need to be superstars with preferably one more all-star. There is a very limited supply of those kinds of players. Better to roll the dice to get one. If it doesn't work out, you get another chance next year.

I think the other thing that truly can be said at this point is that the Sixers are experiencing some bad luck in how the process is playing out.

1) Being leapt over in the lottery in 2013-14 and not getting Wiggins or Parker, and being forced to take Embiid as the consolation prize.

2) Miami tanking after Bosh went down and their pick not conveying to the Sixers.

3) The Lakers injury woes that pushed them down into the top 5.

4) OKC missing the playoffs and having their pick not convey to the Sixers.

5) The Lakers leaping over us and getting Russell. Maybe that will end up as a blessing in disguise.

6) Embiid's slower than expected recovery.

It sometimes seems the odds are forever NOT in our favor.

Since I stumbled on to bballbuzz.com, here are my thoughts on the Sixers. The NBA is a different animal than the other pro leagues. Realistically you are counting on about 7 players to win a championship, of which 2 need to be superstars with preferably one more all-star. There is a very limited supply of those kinds of players. Better to roll the dice to get one. If it doesn't work out, you get another chance next year.

I think the other thing that truly can be said at this point is that the Sixers are experiencing some bad luck in how the process is playing out.

1) Being leapt over in the lottery in 2013-14 and not getting Wiggins or Parker, and being forced to take Embiid as the consolation prize.

2) Miami tanking after Bosh went down and their pick not conveying to the Sixers.

3) The Lakers injury woes that pushed them down into the top 5.

4) OKC missing the playoffs and having their pick not convey to the Sixers.

5) The Lakers leaping over us and getting Russell. Maybe that will end up as a blessing in disguise.

6) Embiid's slower than expected recovery.

It sometimes seems the odds are forever NOT in our favor.
- TheGreat28

I don't know if that is bad luck, or if it's just the way the draft works. It's no different than any other league. What teams are picking where, what players are picked or fall to you, etc. That's the fork in Hinkie's magic plan. His plan has as much chance to fail as it does in succeeding. At some point, he has to start actually putting a team on the court. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Nerlens Noel to become Chris Bosh like, as I read earlier. Not from you. Sixers need some shooters and perimeter players. It's a 3 point league.

I don't know if that is bad luck, or if it's just the way the draft works. It's no different than any other league. What teams are picking where, what players are picked or fall to you, etc. That's the fork in Hinkie's magic plan. His plan has as much chance to fail as it does in succeeding. At some point, he has to start actually putting a team on the court. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Nerlens Noel to become Chris Bosh like, as I read earlier. Not from you. Sixers need some shooters and perimeter players.
- MJL

My thing is by the time this plan is ready to move forward, a guy like Noel's contract might be up and he might be ready to move. Now you have to replace him. They still seem like 3 years from really doing anything. I think NBA rookie contracts are 4 or 5 years. Again I feel like it is a big shell game and that there might never be any move forward.

My thing is by the time this plan is ready to move forward, a guy like Noel's contract might be up and he might be ready to move. Now you have to replace him. They still seem like 3 years from really doing anything. I think NBA rookie contracts are 4 or 5 years. Again I feel like it is a big shell game and that there might never be any move forward.
- J35Bacher

Why would Noel walk away from the Sixers after 5 years if the team is starting to contend and the Sixers can offer him more money than any other team?

I don't know if that is bad luck, or if it's just the way the draft works. It's no different than any other league. What teams are picking where, what players are picked or fall to you, etc. That's the fork in Hinkie's magic plan. His plan has as much chance to fail as it does in succeeding. At some point, he has to start actually putting a team on the court. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Nerlens Noel to become Chris Bosh like, as I read earlier. Not from you. Sixers need some shooters and perimeter players. It's a 3 point league.
- MJL

At the end of the day, it's still bad luck. If things break the right way, we could have had Russell and Porzingis, and maybe even Jerian Grant and Kevin Looney to add to a healthy Embiid/Noel, etc. They could still have done the Stauskas trade. And they would have a lineup with Noel, Embiid, Russell, Grant and Porzingis with Staukas and Looney coming off the bench.

Or they could have drafted Wiggins instead of Embiid, and Okafor. And had the same lineup but featuring Wiggins, Okafor and Noel. Though in truth, if they had Wiggins they would have probably had a better record and not gotten Okafor.

My point is, they are experiencing some bad luck. I think the process is still the right way to go, but it will take a little longer.