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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
Nope not gonna happen I guess...

One guy will put up 60 another guy could only get 40 but the averages should be in that range

- Stripes77

I think one line clicks and we get 3 players in the 65-70 point range

(waits for the pile on to occur)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:35 PM ET
I think one line clicks and we get 3 players in the 65-70 point range

(waits for the pile on to occur)

- homiedclown





That would be ideal I would love it.

I would be happy with 3 players above 60!
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:37 PM ET
I can see 7 guys all bunched up in the 48-55 point range
- homiedclown


I apologize, I'm really not argumentative, but we are never on the same page.

You think we will have 7 guys in at least the top 90 in scoring???

The blackhawks only had 4...

I just don't think it will happen.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
How many young teams have actually managed to go from bottom feeder to playing to their exact potential in one year? I admire the optimism, but it's exactly this kind of sky high thinking that leads to people wanting good players gone because they couldn't meet those expectations instantly.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
I apologize, I'm really not argumentative, but we are never on the same page.

You think we will have 7 guys in at least the top 90 in scoring???

The blackhawks only had 4...

I just don't think it will happen.

- bjm1717

Blackhawks only had 6 guys over 40, and 3 of them under 50.

We won't score like them. Not even close
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Blackhawks only had 6 guys over 40, and 3 of them under 50.

We won't score like them. Not even close

- sbroads24

League leader had 87 pts, this ain't the the league from 10 years ago
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jul 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
How many young teams have actually managed to go from bottom feeder to playing to their exact potential in one year? I admire the optimism, but it's exactly this kind of sky high thinking that leads to people wanting good players gone because they couldn't meet those expectations instantly.
- Sabresfan-365


^^^^this
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 11 @ 3:47 PM ET
Keep in mind forwards also get a lot of extra points when they get to play with good play making offensive defencemen. We currently have 0 on the nhl roster.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
I apologize, I'm really not argumentative, but we are never on the same page.

You think we will have 7 guys in at least the top 90 in scoring???

The blackhawks only had 4...

I just don't think it will happen.

- bjm1717

they were 16th in goals scored


I doubt they will be in the top 16 next season

the hawks are not a powerhouse roster, they lean heavily on 7 or 8 players


this roster the sabres have is constructed a lot closer to the bolts roster and if hedman was healthy they would have had 7 players over 45 points
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 3:57 PM ET
people keep going back t how blah the sabres were at scoring last year


here is a little hockey 101


when you add 4 guys in your top 6, your roster becomes better it many ways

your guys playing on the first line last season are going down a line and in turn going to be in better position to improve their point per minute production

same holds for the second line player dropping to the third line


the pp will improve ten-fold as well putting up much better numbers, middle of the pack is my guess

it's a reverse of what happened when roy and vanek were forced to go from playing on the third line vs the competition they faced on the first line once briere and drury walked


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
How many young teams have actually managed to go from bottom feeder to playing to their exact potential in one year? I admire the optimism, but it's exactly this kind of sky high thinking that leads to people wanting good players gone because they couldn't meet those expectations instantly.
- Sabresfan-365

I have not seen a team add 4 legit guys to their top 6 moving froward from one season to the next


ever



this is what has me excited

pp qb is needed still

if the sabres pulled what the islanders did late last summer, adding leddy and boychuk, there will be legit reason for optimism IMO
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:05 PM ET
I have not seen a team add 4 legit guys to their top 6 moving froward from one season to the next


ever



this is what has me excited

pp qb is needed still

if the sabres pulled what the islanders did late last summer, adding leddy and boychuk, there will be legit reason for optimism IMO

- homiedclown

Eichel is 18 and Reinhart is 19. They are not top 6 NHL players yet.

We added 2, one that is a pretty good defensive center, and another that hasn't scored over 20 goals in 4 years.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
I have not seen a team add 4 legit guys to their top 6 moving froward from one season to the next


ever



this is what has me excited

pp qb is needed still

if the sabres pulled what the islanders did late last summer, adding leddy and boychuk, there will be legit reason for optimism IMO

- homiedclown

Huge if imo. They stole boychuk, it's unlikely murray finds a number 2 for that little.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:12 PM ET
Side note Cornel. Looks like a wasted pick has not impressed me
- gerbe75pts


My uncle used to have Peterborough petes seasons. I asked him about cornel when we drafted him, he said the petes were expecting big things from him when they drafted him, never really got there. Lotsa talent, meh results.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:29 PM ET
My uncle used to have Peterborough petes seasons. I asked him about cornel when we drafted him, he said the petes were expecting big things from him when they drafted him, never really got there. Lotsa talent, meh results.
- rover16

trade him to the yotes
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:33 PM ET
that fight was planned days ago lol .. and he is slow as molasses

good for the AHL nothing more IMO

- gerbe75pts



Where to you get your assumptions from? You weren't even at the game, seeing Chapman, (AHL maybe player) had a real nasty in him all night, he laid out two wingers and gave hell to anybody that met him along the wall. Fun to see a kid lay it all out there.

The fight was a culmination of anger from the Blue squad after Chapman had manhandled a number of players then blasted "William" on to his back , open ice major hit, then KEA and him threw more REAL punches than I've seen in most NHL fights, none of that pull on my sweater while I look away down at the ice, they threw bombs each landing a number of times. Chapman went off bleeding from his forhead and eye, smiling!
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 4:35 PM ET
Where to you get your assumptions from? You weren't even at the game, seeing Chapman, (AHL maybe player) had a real nasty in him all night, he laid out two wingers and gave hell to anybody that met him along the wall. Fun to see a kid lay it all out there.

The fight was a culmination of anger from the Blue squad after Chapman had manhandled a number of players then blasted "William" on to his back , open ice major hit, then KEA and him threw more REAL punches than I've seen in most NHL fights, none of that pull on my sweater while I look away down at the ice, they threw bombs each landing a number of times. Chapman went off bleeding from his forhead and eye, smiling!

- MEBSabresFAN

Good post MEB.
Wait for the "you don't know what you are talking about reply".
I'm on pins and needles.
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:36 PM ET
they were 16th in goals scored


I doubt they will be in the top 16 next season

the hawks are not a powerhouse roster, they lean heavily on 7 or 8 players


this roster the sabres have is constructed a lot closer to the bolts roster and if hedman was healthy they would have had 7 players over 45 points

- homiedclown


Although in a few years it might look like the bolts roster, it probably won't next year. That's why I used chicago, because they were a middle of the road scoring team. I think middle of the road scoring is best case for the sabres next season.
bjm1717
New York Islanders
Location: Sam Reinhart is the next Wayne Gretzky!
Joined: 08.18.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:38 PM ET
people keep going back t how blah the sabres were at scoring last year


here is a little hockey 101


when you add 4 guys in your top 6, your roster becomes better it many ways

your guys playing on the first line last season are going down a line and in turn going to be in better position to improve their point per minute production

same holds for the second line player dropping to the third line


the pp will improve ten-fold as well putting up much better numbers, middle of the pack is my guess

it's a reverse of what happened when roy and vanek were forced to go from playing on the third line vs the competition they faced on the first line once briere and drury walked

- homiedclown


Thanks for the lesson, professor.

But all of that seems like common sense to me.

I don't think it would be possible for the power play to improve ten fold....

All of that said 7 guys in the top 90 probably won't happen imo.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:07 PM ET
Where to you get your assumptions from? You weren't even at the game, seeing Chapman, (AHL maybe player) had a real nasty in him all night, he laid out two wingers and gave hell to anybody that met him along the wall. Fun to see a kid lay it all out there.

The fight was a culmination of anger from the Blue squad after Chapman had manhandled a number of players then blasted "William" on to his back , open ice major hit, then KEA and him threw more REAL punches than I've seen in most NHL fights, none of that pull on my sweater while I look away down at the ice, they threw bombs each landing a number of times. Chapman went off bleeding from his forhead and eye, smiling!

- MEBSabresFAN


I posted the link 2 or 3 pages ago
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
trade him to the yotes
- homiedclown


at this point I would try to get a second round pick he looks absolutely useless I wanted dvorak oh well you can't win them all
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 5:10 PM ET
I posted the link 2 or 3 pages ago
- gerbe75pts

The poster was there!
Which effectively means that they don't give a rats ass about your link.
It's meaningless!
Whew...Dense!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
The poster was there!
Which effectively means that they don't give a rats ass about your link.
It's meaningless!
Whew...Dense!

- BuffaloHardHat


it's really not a big deal in today's age they always pre plan fights like come on
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jul 11 @ 5:31 PM ET
Mike Weber.
Buffalo Sabres MVP for the 2015/16 season.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jul 11 @ 5:39 PM ET
Mike Weber.
Buffalo Sabres MVP for the 2015/16 season.

- BuffaloHardHat


Can't wait till they ditch him. Then who you gonna latch on to?
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