They're not. They're obsessed with calling out one comment that was made in one post, so they can stir up poop. Because that's what they do.
- MartiniMan

Pretty amazing that adults can't just ignore them. LOL

They're not. They're obsessed with calling out one comment that was made in one post, so they can stir up poop. Because that's what they do.
- MartiniMan

because the blogger just did what he calls out numerous people for doing and poo poos it when he does it.

Stamkos is not one dimensional. He plays both ends of the ice. Kills penalties. Takes the body. He is a great player and he can be on my team any day.
- TTtime

Agree to disagree. I watched a lot of the Tampa playoff games and if he doesnt have the puck in open ice he is fairly easily contained. He and Ovi have the best shot in the league by far and you cannot teach his nose for finding the back of the net. In Tampa, however, i would pay Victor Hedman 10mil before Steven Stamkos. Again, he is one of the best scorers in the game, but his play without the puck leaves something to be desired. But, that is why I posed the question inthe first place.... To see how others value Stammer.

They're not. They're obsessed with calling out one comment that was made in one post, so they can stir up poop. Because that's what they do.
- MartiniMan

Honestly, I had backed off my statement on page 1 of the comments until someone who I won't name called me out for using bad logic. In defending myself, the can of worms got opened.

Honestly, I had backed off my statement on page 1 of the comments until someone who I won't name called me out for using bad logic. In defending myself, the can of worms got opened.
- Sandus

Can we have their initials?

I agree with this, but Paliotta was drafted.
- Sandus

Ooops. My bad… Well, the race to sign Mike Reilly then...

Agree to disagree. I watched a lot of the Tampa playoff games and if he doesnt have the puck in open ice he is faily easily contained. He and Ovi have the best shot in the league by far and you cannot teach his nose for finding the back of the net. In Tampa, however, i would pay Victor Hedman 10mil before Steven Stamkos. Again, he is one of the best scorers in the game, but his play without the puck leaves something to be desired. But, that is why I posed the question inthe first place.... To see how others value Stammer.
- EnzoD

Defense or no defense (I lean toward the underrated defensively camp), when you score at least 20% of your team's goals every year, you should be able to use 15% of your team's cap.

Decent read, time waits for no one:

http://www.si.com/nhl/201...p-situation-trade-options

Defense or no defense (I lean toward the underrated defensively camp), when you score at least 20% of your team's goals every year, you should be able to use 15% of your team's cap.
- Sandus

he agrees to disagree after each of you only made 1 point. what a great hockey discussion. kudos to enzoD for his openmindedness.

Defense or no defense (I lean toward the underrated defensively camp), when you score at least 20% of your team's goals every year, you should be able to use 15% of your team's cap.
- Sandus

I don't see a one dimensional player when I watch Stamkos. Kessel is my definition of one dimensional. Stamkos is a far better player than Kessel. Better scorer too.

Or Jack Johnson's parents. That poor guy.
- TTtime

OMG.

Why are so many concerned with Johnny Oduya's financial health?

He'll do what he feels is best for him and his.
- ArlingtonRob

As it should be imho. He also doesn't OWE anything to the other players. Yes, him signing a "non-market" deal impacts statistics and comparables, so what.

Palat, Johnson, Kucherov, Hedman all need raises within the next 2 summers....I would NOT pay a one-dimensional player like Stamokos 10.7mil. That's just me. I know he is (arguably) the best goal scorer besides Ovi in the NHL. I just dont see enough on a shift by shift basis to give him that much money. But, he is the face of the franchise and an exceptional talent. He will be paid 10.7mil by someone, the question is whether its Tampa or Toronto....
- EnzoD

I wouldn't call Stamkos a "one-dimensional" player...

...and in today's game, averaging 40-50 goals a year is special.

Stamkos is the face of the franchise, and many clubs would pay him 10M plus, so I expect him to be paid.

They're not. They're obsessed with calling out one comment that was made in one post, so they can stir up poop. Because that's what they do.
- MartiniMan

Cheers, Mister Martini.

JJ

You heading to Traverse City for the tourney?

Stamkos is not one dimensional. He plays both ends of the ice. Kills penalties. Takes the body. He is a great player and he can be on my team any day.
- TTtime

This...

Are you ok with the Patrick Kane contract?
- nurk

Patrick Kane is not one dimensional.

I'll take that as a big NO? lol
- EnzoD

Nah. He is a franchise player who had a tough series. The rest of his playoff numbers are good so he really isn't Rick Nash 2.0. I was just playing around.

If stamkos only cares about being the highest paid player in the league, I'd be working to trade him. If he wants to make a lot of money and leave some to help the team sign other good players, then do all that you can to keep him. Where the line exactly is between those two situations is a bit blurry.

Pretty amazing that adults can't just ignore them. LOL
- TTtime

Where?

Here?

Debatable...

Patrick Kane is not one dimensional.
- Dunconn_Smythe

on a spectrum of players, patrick kane would be more of a one dimensional player than stamkos. i think that is the point.

Agree to disagree. I watched a lot of the Tampa playoff games and if he doesnt have the puck in open ice he is fairly easily contained. He and Ovi have the best shot in the league by far and you cannot teach his nose for finding the back of the net. In Tampa, however, i would pay Victor Hedman 10mil before Steven Stamkos. Again, he is one of the best scorers in the game, but his play without the puck leaves something to be desired. But, that is why I posed the question inthe first place.... To see how others value Stammer.
- EnzoD

If you watched Stamkos as you say you do, you'd know he is not a one dimentional player and also know he is very good, not great, without the puck. Against the Hawks he was right in the thick of things all the time and like Toews was a big part of Tampa's success even though the scoresheet didn't show his name.

Where?

Here?

Debatable...
- ArlingtonRob

Laughable, really.

Cheers, Mister Martini.
- John Jaeckel

because he agrees with you. im still waiting for some proof or evidence of the 15-25 mil in endorsements, appearances and investments estimation.

Patrick Kane is not one dimensional.
- Dunconn_Smythe

I wouldn't say he is a 200 foot player.

I don't see a one dimensional player when I watch Stamkos. Kessel is my definition of one dimensional. Stamkos is a far better player than Kessel. Better scorer too.
- TTtime

I agree with you. He's not gonna be Toews or Kopitar or Bergeron, but he's certainly not a liability. I think he does a respectable job in his own end, even though he could be stronger at the dot.