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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 17m17 minutes ago
It appears Johhny Oduya is staying patient in hope of returning to #blackhawks. Told he turned down significant offer from #sabres


I would expect a trade sooner rather than later.

- Sabresfan-365

they have to move more then sharp to sign oduya and kruger
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 17m17 minutes ago
It appears Johhny Oduya is staying patient in hope of returning to #blackhawks. Told he turned down significant offer from #sabres


I would expect a trade sooner rather than later.

- Sabresfan-365


WTF!!! So if they fail to trade Sharpy, is our offer completely off the table now?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:32 PM ET
Thats not a forward
- gerbe75pts


You didnt say forward, you said "players".
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 12:32 PM ET

- Michael Pachla

spezza and ryan are solid comparisons to what could happen to reinhart


I don't think it will but could


mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:32 PM ET
they have to move more then sharp to sign oduya and kruger
- homiedclown


No, they need to move more than Sharp to sign those 2 AND extend Seabrooke....
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
does bobby ryan count?
- Michael Pachla


he was not the first taken so no
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
You didnt say forward, you said "players".
- mochoson

your suppose to know what is going on inside his head, not base it on what he types

Jtr1p
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.11.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
Really ? are people really this crazy please give me a list of players the last 10 years they have played in AHL as the first overall pick forward?
- gerbe75pts


I did this 6-12 months ago. 1st overall picks(or 1st forward) over that last 15 years is roughly 50% that saw a full season on an NHL roster (in their first year? - can't remember exactly). Doesn't mean hes a bust or that he's not good. It's pretty common. I believe in Sam, but I am not YET ready to believe in him THIS year.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jul 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
You didnt say forward, you said "players".
- mochoson


i said forward
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:34 PM ET
No, they need to move more than Sharp to sign those 2 AND extend Seabrooke....
- mochoson

moving crawford and sharp may not be enough to get those 3 locked up beyond this season because they will have to pay shaw as well then
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:34 PM ET
Not that Reinhart going to Rochester is completely unfathomable, but I'm not sure how one can be so sure the guy "isn't ready" when he outplayed a certain other teenager head to head, and he's virtually guaranteed to make the team.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:34 PM ET
I did this 6-12 months ago. 1st overall picks(or 1st forward) over that last 15 years is roughly 50% that saw a full season on an NHL roster (in their first year? - can't remember exactly). Doesn't mean hes a bust or that he's not good. It's pretty common. I believe in Sam, but I am not YET ready to believe in him THIS year.
- Jtr1p

you will be in 8 weeks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:35 PM ET
Not that Reinhart going to Rochester is completely unfathomable, but I'm not sure how one can be so sure the guy "isn't ready" when he outplayed a certain other teenager head to head, and he's virtually guaranteed to make the team.
- buffalofan19

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 12:35 PM ET
You all do realize Reinhart is "technically" more NHL ready than Eichel is as of this writing, correct?

Reinhart won't be in the AHL. Now, that's just my opinion. I severely doubt he's sent down unless he falls flat on his face at training camp. Bylsma will have no problem deploying ROR all over the line-up; he's not a lock to play center himself.

Moulson-Girgensons-ROR
Kane-Reinhart-Ennis
McGinn-Eichel-Gionta
Foligno-Legwand-Larsson

Forwards are tremendously better. Two defensemen away from being very, very legit in the East IMO.

- mochoson


technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
Jtr1p
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.11.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:36 PM ET
you will be in 8 weeks
- homiedclown


I will be great with that!
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 9 @ 12:36 PM ET
You all do realize Reinhart is "technically" more NHL ready than Eichel is as of this writing, correct?

Reinhart won't be in the AHL. Now, that's just my opinion. I severely doubt he's sent down unless he falls flat on his face at training camp. Bylsma will have no problem deploying ROR all over the line-up; he's not a lock to play center himself.

Moulson-Girgensons-ROR
Kane-Reinhart-Ennis
McGinn-Eichel-Gionta
Foligno-Legwand-Larsson

Forwards are tremendously better. Two defensemen away from being very, very legit in the East IMO.

- mochoson


I have been saying I expect playoffs this year. Think of last year when we all wanted (or so it seemed) to lose and we would be in tons of games we had no business in. The roster is easily 10X better (maybe more) and I think we will make the playoffs. Maybe not last long in the playoffs, but make it none the less.

Eichel as a 2nd or 3rd pairing would kill most other teams lines. Dude is crazy talented and wants to work hard, same with Reinhart. The beginning of the season might be a hot mess, but that will change, fast.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
he was not the first taken so no
- gerbe75pts

splitting hairs, there, jr...but I get your point...


imo, there's really no need to rush him...Detroit has been pretty successful at letting their players develop...no reason, imo, the sabres shouldn't do the same, especially this year
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
- Michael Pachla

This years preseason is gonna be fun to watch
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 9 @ 12:38 PM ET
technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
- Michael Pachla

Incompetent coach that played him with mccormick and deslaurers didn't help either

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
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Jul 9 @ 12:38 PM ET
List me players that have gone first overall forward that went to the AHL or have not played in the NHL the next year it just does not happen in this age
- gerbe75pts



i said forward
- gerbe75pts


You clearly just added this word 2 seconds ago. It doesn't even make sense grammatically. It's not a big deal if forwards are what you meant. Lying about it is retarded, but do you pimpin'
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
- Michael Pachla



Eichel will be too at least at certain times this year. I still believe Reinhart would have figured things out during the season had they let him stay, but it's irrelevant at this point.
Jtr1p
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.11.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
splitting hairs, there, jr...but I get your point...


imo, there's really no need to rush him...Detroit has been pretty successful at letting their players develop...no reason, imo, the sabres shouldn't do the same, especially this year

- Michael Pachla


I think you have hit all the major points on him doing AHL time, Mike. I'm with you. Here's to hoping we get proved wrong!
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jul 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
- Michael Pachla


I know and understand that. I'm saying based on the fact that he got a 9 game cup of coffee alone, he is ahead of Eichel. He knows what to expect.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 12:39 PM ET
Not that Reinhart going to Rochester is completely unfathomable, but I'm not sure how one can be so sure the guy "isn't ready" when he outplayed a certain other teenager head to head, and he's virtually guaranteed to make the team.
- buffalofan19


that was in junior...and mcsavior's skating is far superior to reinhart's...he also skates at 195 and can do everything at a high speed carrying that weight
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 12:40 PM ET
technically, yes...physically, no...that was the whole point of sending him down last fall...he was overmatched by the bigger, more physical players
- Michael Pachla

if your name is freakorenko, max or reinhart


you need to play with skilled players because that is the game you play your entire life


not sure why coaches can't see that

bolts are (frank)ing drouin the same way
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