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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
I think one of Reinhart or Girgensons will be on the wing, but not both.

I'll counter with

Kane ROR Moulson
Girgs Eichel Ennis
McGinn Reinhart Gionta
Foligno Larsson/Legwand DLO

- Homer


Close to what I had but Moulson is a LWer.

I had

Kane ROR Ennis
Moulson Eichel Girgensons/Reinhart
McGinn Girgensons/Reinhart Gionta
Foligno Legwand Larrson
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Ennis had 46 pts on a historically awful team. What part of that is considered a poor year?

And on that note, unless they finish 30th in both years they pretty much have nowhere to go but up..

- Sabresfan-365


1) It was a historically awful team because Ennis is not part of the solution

2) 46 points is not good. Especially for a guy who was playing on the top line for a good chunk of the year. Even for 2nd liner that isn't great. Brayden Schenn beat him by one point and he had 3rd line minutes... They won't finish 30th as they did get better but not enough to be considered a good team. They will likely get a top 5 pick but they won't be 30th.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Close to what I had but Moulson is a LWer.

I had

Kane ROR Ennis
Moulson Eichel Girgensons/Reinhart
McGinn Girgensons/Reinhart Gionta
Foligno Legwand Larrson

- Stripes77


I wasnt putting toooooo much though into what wing guys play because its interchangable for a fair chunk of players.......Kane ROR Ennis looks great, I was trying to give Eichel a better skater in Ennis than Moulson to play with, that was my thinking there.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 3:10 PM ET
Actually it is a fact that Tavares was known as an Elite goal scorer coming out of Jr's

Reinhart was known as an Elite playmaker.

Also fact Tavares was at an almost a goal per game clip (.87)whereas Reinhart was under a .5 goals per game.

- dadeadhead

I understand all of these.
I think Reinhart can improve his game, and with better players around him, he could score 30 goals a year.
That is all.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
I think one of Reinhart or Girgensons will be on the wing, but not both.

I'll counter with

Kane ROR Moulson
Girgs Eichel Ennis
McGinn Reinhart Gionta
Foligno Larsson/Legwand DLO

- Homer



I expect the lines to get shuffled around quite a bit
I believe I head an interview with Bylsma where he said he had scratched out like 18 different versions
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
1) It was a historically awful team because Ennis is not part of the solution

2) 46 points is not good. Especially for a guy who was playing on the top line for a good chunk of the year. Even for 2nd liner that isn't great. Brayden Schenn beat him by one point and he had 3rd line minutes... They won't finish 30th as they did get better but not enough to be considered a good team. They will likely get a top 5 pick but they won't be 30th.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Ummm....Ennis had a very good year and is a very good player.

Top line? At the end of the year Johan Larsson was our #1 center....on this team he's arguably not even in the top 12 forwards. In other words we didnt have a first line.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
I expect the lines to get shuffled around quite a bit
I believe I head an interview with Bylsma where he said he had scratched out like 18 different versions

- jdfitz77


Yep, lots of options.....a very good thing.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
1) It was a historically awful team because Ennis is not part of the solution

2) 46 points is not good. Especially for a guy who was playing on the top line for a good chunk of the year. Even for 2nd liner that isn't great. Brayden Schenn beat him by one point and he had 3rd line minutes... They won't finish 30th as they did get better but not enough to be considered a good team. They will likely get a top 5 pick but they won't be 30th.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



We will prob pick somewhere between 4-10
But Ennis is a good player
Idk where u see he's not
His points will continue to trend upward, and prob take a nice leap now that he'll be playing with a talented center
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
1) It was a historically awful team because Ennis is not part of the solution

2) 46 points is not good. Especially for a guy who was playing on the top line for a good chunk of the year. Even for 2nd liner that isn't great. Brayden Schenn beat him by one point and he had 3rd line minutes... They won't finish 30th as they did get better but not enough to be considered a good team. They will likely get a top 5 pick but they won't be 30th.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I like him...


Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
We will prob pick somewhere between 4-10
But Ennis is a good player
Idk where u see he's not
His points will continue to trend upward, and prob take a nice leap now that he'll be playing with a talented center

- jdfitz77


You really think so???? I think we pick 15th'ish
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
You really think so???? I think we pick 15th'ish
- Homer



I say 5.Or 7 around there but it will be a fun year
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
I say 5.Or 7 around there but it will be a fun year
- gerbe75pts

WoooW!!!
So, the expectations are so lowww for this season!!!
I would say for us to pick 5-7, our players will be under performing tremendously!
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 9 @ 3:37 PM ET
if anything lets not trade our 2016 first. If we have Edmonton Oiler luck we could get #2 in the lottery for the third year in a row!!! & In hometown Buffalo!
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:38 PM ET
I say 5.Or 7 around there but it will be a fun year
- gerbe75pts



Well Im one who believes we have a legit shot at the playoffs....
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:39 PM ET
1) It was a historically awful team because Ennis is not part of the solution

2) 46 points is not good. Especially for a guy who was playing on the top line for a good chunk of the year. Even for 2nd liner that isn't great. Brayden Schenn beat him by one point and he had 3rd line minutes... They won't finish 30th as they did get better but not enough to be considered a good team. They will likely get a top 5 pick but they won't be 30th.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Nothing you said here is accurate, do some basic research and watch a few sabres games from last year before you make this assumption.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:40 PM ET


Well Im one who believes we have a legit shot at the playoffs....

- Homer



Add a top 4 d and I would agree.

As it stands now 8-10.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 3:45 PM ET


Well Im one who believes we have a legit shot at the playoffs....

- Homer

I am with you, Homer!!!
I believe we will be the MOST improved team in entire NHL this upcoming season.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:46 PM ET
Wasn't this just mentioned that he looked horrible??
- Sabresfan88


I spent Tue and Wed there, Cantinecci (sp?) looked like a vet AHL forward, when he skates it looks like he becomes a Bowling Bowl and even big guys have a hard time with him.

Samson, who I'm a HUGE fan of, looked average, its hard for him to look special in simple drills, but Jack Eichel stands out in all facets!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:46 PM ET
You really think so???? I think we pick 15th'ish
- Homer


13-17 is the range I'm expecting. I dont think you make moves for Kane and ROR and arent thinking playoffs contention.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:47 PM ET


Well Im one who believes we have a legit shot at the playoffs....

- Homer


Not with the D as it is now, Lehner will get killed.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
I am with you, Homer!!!
I believe we will be the MOST improved team in entire NHL this upcoming season.

- Sabresfan88


I dont think any other team has as much ground to improve as we do. sub-60 point seasons the previous 2... adding Kane, ROR, Eichel, Reinhart... thats an easy prediction to make.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
13-17 is the range I'm expecting. I dont think you make moves for Kane and ROR and arent thinking playoffs contention.
- theblueandgold


not exactly. He was setting a core. I don't think playoff are the first thing on management's mind for now, for this season.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Not with the D as it is now, Lehner will get killed.
- mhp


Underestimating how much support the forwards, specifically ROR, Kane, Girgensons, Larsson, will bring for the defense. I understand setting the expectations low. But people are underestimating our group.

We dont necessarily have to find another elite player for the top 4. We just need to find partner that will compliment Risto and Bogo (I really hope Bylsma doesnt move Risto to the left side).

We need to find Bogo's Stralman, or Risto's Martinez. Those arent elite high end top 4 players. More like average.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
not exactly. He was setting a core. I don't think playoff are the first thing on management's mind for now, for this season.
- Sabre_Tooth

Well, he set a strong core!
Playoffs could be attained.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:52 PM ET
2 years from now, IMO the centers are eichel, reinhart and girgens

based on formula's that means 2, maybe 3 wingers get paid

your top 4 d gets paid

your goalie


is ennis above kane and ror?


I think he is a distant 3rd, thus an asset to get a top 4 d man

- homiedclown


He was crucial in bringing ROR here. They were buds at World Championships, and Ennis talked up the Sabres big time. They're not going to trade him away right away before ROR is fully transitioned in.
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