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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
good and american beer don't go in the same sentence
- SaskHawkFan


For the most part that's true. If you like micro brews the possibilities are better.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 9:04 PM ET
Amstel Light is some good stuff. Among the best light beers
- grinder10


One of my go tos.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
Good? Not a word I would use describing those beers.
- TTtime


from the land of sky blue waters - Hamms. What I drink in the wisconsin northwoods. Even have had some Blatz when I'm feeling stupid.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
Wouldn't "brought up" some memories be more appropriate?
- HawkintheD

Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
Uh, Al I think all of my comments do indicate that I understand both finance and hockey. You are making judgments without understanding the heart of what I am saying...and that is if Seabrook won't sign a WORKABLE EXTENSION, then the Hawks can't afford him without getting rid of Crawford AND another good player and sizeable contract. If he will sign a workable extension, then all of this is a MUTE POINT...or didn't you actually read what I said?

For Bowman to help move Sharp, Bickell and/or Versteeg knowing (which he may or may not know) that he can't afford a Seabrook extension for a return similar to the quality of the Saad deal, then he has proved his genius again. Again, if Seabrook wants to finish his career here with a workable deal, then GREAT, end of story! But Bowman has to think outside of the box to succeed in a league where everyone is gunning for him, and none have sympathy for his position!

- MexicoHawk

Morganskaner88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
You just said north of $7.5 mil about five posts earlier. Which is it, $6.5 or $7.5?

So you think they said goodbye to Saad with no intention on keeping Seabrook if he asks for a $1.6 mil raise?

I doubt that.

- HawkintheD

D, I think you are impugning his word, which none shall do. Agree it's all about realistic demands not a magical number.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
It all comes down to lists...

...some number of clubs a player will, or will not, accept an unconditional trade to.

- ArlingtonRob


Yep and then there could be additional language built in..like what time of year a trade can happen without a list. I think that was the case when Mike Richards was traded from Philly.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
from the land of sky blue waters - Hamms. What I drink in the wisconsin northwoods. Even have had some Blatz when I'm feeling stupid.
- 6628


Wow, you've got an iron gut 66. I hope your toilet is made of similar material
Sandus
Joined: 12.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:07 PM ET
For the most part that's true. If you like micro brews the possibilities are better.
- HawkintheD

Be careful with microbrews these days though, because a lot of them are really just boutique label big brews. Always do your legwork.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:11 PM ET
D, I think you are impugning his word, which none shall do. Agree it's all about realistic demands not a magical number.
- Morganskaner88


Damn Morgan...I was hoping this guy could work his magic.

walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
Amstel Light is some good stuff. Among the best light beers
- grinder10


A damn good beer, Chelsea Dagger:

http://findthatsong.net/a...-light-beer-amsterdam-ad/
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
Damn Morgan...I was hoping this guy could work his magic.


- HawkintheD

Just say no to Kool Ehhhhhhhd.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
good and american beer don't go in the same sentence
- SaskHawkFan


Brotherman, You need to come down to OR and taste some real brews.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Be careful with microbrews these days though, because a lot of them are really just boutique label big brews. Always do your legwork.
- Sandus


Drink local.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:18 PM ET
Be careful with microbrews these days though, because a lot of them are really just boutique label big brews. Always do your legwork.
- Sandus


Sneaky bastards they are.
dstainer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
Brotherman, You need to come down to OR and taste some real brews.
- Beaver-Warrior


Have to step in and give a plug to SD microbreweries... Stone, Green Flash, Ballast Point just to name a few... Besides we have way better weather than OR.

DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
Damn Morgan...I was hoping this guy could work his magic.


- HawkintheD


Man D we need some trade action soon brother...the folks on this board are getting quite snippy

Morganskaner88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 03.26.2013

Jul 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
Damn Morgan...I was hoping this guy could work his magic.


- HawkintheD

Oh he'll work his magic alright...just might not be getting half the Stars roster with them retaing all salary for Bickell and Versteeg while riding a unicorn. I'll be happy for cap relief and a unicycle at this point
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
Man D we need some trade action soon brother...the folks on this board are getting quite snippy
- DK002


Actually DK, I'd say this is pretty tame from year's past. Thank God they won the Cup!
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 9:26 PM ET
The problem comes in with the term with a RFA like Saad who some think can be the cornerstone of a team...A centerpiece, build around player. Discussed here with John the likely hangup with Saad's deal was term to start...

The term was the issue becasue for the Hawks to go long term they needed no competition..5/6 yrs $4-$4.5 mill...and Saad wasn't going to take a bridge deal because he got both a huge payday and security with a 6 year deal. KIM-Saad's agent knew what was out there, even if as Saad contends he wasn't fully in the loop.

- Al


I can believe Saad wasn't up to speed, his agent did his homework and got the kid another $1.5-$2M/year over 6.

And if I was Tyler Toffoli I'd be asking my agent WTF?
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:28 PM ET
Actually DK, I'd say this is pretty tame from year's past. Thank God they won the Cup!
- HawkintheD


Wait we won the thing...holy crap!!!

nellie
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.07.2010

Jul 8 @ 9:29 PM ET
The problem comes in with the term with a RFA like Saad who some think can be the cornerstone of a team...A centerpiece, build around player. Discussed here with John the likely hangup with Saad's deal was term to start...

The term was the issue becasue for the Hawks to go long term they needed no competition..5/6 yrs $4-$4.5 mill...and Saad wasn't going to take a bridge deal because he got both a huge payday and security with a 6 year deal. KIM-Saad's agent knew what was out there, even if as Saad contends he wasn't fully in the loop.

- Al


And there lies the new reality in the NHL. Players who would be "core" .....like Saad, are no longer going to take bridge deals.
And, there is no reason for Bowman to get ahead of himself extend Seabrooke and deepen his current hole. What he is trying to do is trade Sharp, Bickell, and Versteeg for Oduya and Kruger......Oduya and Kruger are the hoped for return.....and, because Stan burned time trying to get something extra and failed..teams are now wanting Stan to take back salary. I think we're sort of screwed and the money he wanted to spend on Kruger will be used to sweeten the new deals.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:30 PM ET
I can believe Saad wasn't up to speed, his agent did his homework and got the kid another $1.5-$2M/year over 6.

And if I was Tyler Toffoli I'd be asking my agent WTF?

- RickJ


Was thinking that about anyone who signed a bridge deal. Toffoli though, hard to believe that big of a difference between him and Sadd.

Have to wonder what precedent Sadd's contract is setting.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:31 PM ET
Sneaky bastards they are.
- Beaver-Warrior


Just stay away from anything brewed in Golden, CO
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:31 PM ET
Wait we won the thing...holy crap!!!
- DK002


Yes if course, that's why everyone hates that Hawks and are conspiring to screw them over
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