No one, including Stan, WANTS to trade 7.

The chances of 7 being traded are still SLIM.

BUT to say that it cannot happen is folly. The chances are SLIM but INCREASING slowly.

As I've posted over the past few days, Seabrook is part of the disaster scenario / Plan Z.

The conventional wisdom was to move 10, 29, 23. If, for any reason, those cannot be achieved, where do you go next? Probably 50. After that? Probably 7.

The other factor is 7's demands for his next deal. Is his agent making similar demands as Giordano's agent? That won't work for the Hawks. Again, the reasonable outcome is 6-7 years with a cap hit between 5.25 and 6.

As I posted last night, any trade with EDM involving 7 would be an absolute blockbuster with multiple pieces going each way.
- gmurban

Source> Or is this your opinion?

Danny, I promise you that he has..for both a younger forward with a slightly smaller Cap hit and a deal that was simply for a pick. So again, the question is "why"?
- MexicoHawk

Not questioning what you said. Just thinking out loud why wouldn't he make that trade.

The question "why" is an interesting one for sure.

Thanks for your input.

The only way Seabrook goes anywhere is if he wants to go...
He's 30 years old and has made good money. His situation for an extension could set up nicely for a max like deal which would tie him in long term with his good buddy Keith who is signed through 2023.

Thus Seabrook takes a little less the first 4 years and makes more money than most 35+ players on the backend of his new deal.
- Al

I agree...Bowman will offer Seabrook a generous and Cap responsible contract, if Seabrook values money more than his legacy in CHI then he will go by his own volition!

You know, I havent looked closely at the numbers, but seems to me there's few players looking at salary increases next year other than Seabs. If the Hawks do trade Sharp and Bicks (I'm still hopeful), and Steeg is off the payroll next year whether they trade him now or not, I'm not sure they need to choose one or the other between Seabs and Craw. Maybe they can fit both. Seabs is at $5.8 cap number now. If he gets $7.5m next year, thats only $1.7 to find room for. Steeg is $1m of that. even a little cap increase fits the rest.

I'm likely missing another player that needs a raise next year. I'll look tonight. Just feels like they have a smaller problem next year, and maybe trading Saad this year takes away the need to choose Seabs or Craw next year.
- Cmonalready

Well, I figured out one of my misses: Panarin (and others) bonuses. Likely $3m+ total.

Why can't they? You keep comparing this to the Saad situation but you keep ignoring the fact, also mentioned by others, that Saad's new deal was going to be for 5M more. Whereas Seabrook's new deal will be closer 1.5 or so. That is basically a bottom 6 veteran. Which are much easier to replace that a top pairing D-man who also happens to be the heart and soul of the team.

I know you think the return for Saad is great. Maybe it is. But as of right now, neither of the players have ever exceeded Saad;s production in a season.
- TTtime

Look at the Hawk's roster...Anisimov's extension and Dano's contract almost equal the Saad money...and then TT, Dano and other young "RFA" type players will all need attractive bridge deals or they will leave! You want to see this as a "how does it affect me right now" scenario and it never is that for an NHL GM! To them it's how do I stay in the Cup hunt indefinitely?

Not questioning what you said. Just thinking out loud why wouldn't he make that trade.

The question "why" is an interesting one for sure.

Thanks for your input.
- Dannyboy

Exactly, my thought in the middle of June was trade Sharp for a 1st or 2nd in THIS year's draft, and move Bickell and Versteeg as best you can...try and resign Oduya and Kruger and try to keep Crawford if possible. But there is obviously a reason why he is waiting and its not that he can't just dump them for picks...

I'm guessing like last year there are rock bottom deals out there especially with Sharp's ability and Stan is trying hard to get a better deal because I'm sure cash will be staying in Chicago if it's a Rick bottom deal so hopefully Stan and Co work something out, Seabrook conversation is just that it won't happen, okay now I can get back to my Old Style

"I don't want to slam you, but your remarks indicate you gave no idea how business is done in the NHL"

Makes me think of a classic Saturday Night Live moment

"Jane, you ignorant slut!"

http://youtu.be/k80nW6AOhTs
- Cmonalready

I don't talk down to anyone ...If you find anyone who says I have over the last 9+ years let me know. I was trying to be nice but the notion of every player being on the table except Keith and Toews is too much for me to comprehend.

So ... anyone know anything about physics?

Look at the Hawk's roster...Anisimov's extension and Dano's contract almost equal the Saad money...and then TT, Dano and other young "RFA" type players will all need attractive bridge deals or they will leave! You want to see this as a "how does it affect me right now" scenario and it never is that for an NHL GM! To them it's how do I stay in the Cup hunt indefinitely?
- MexicoHawk

Why would RFA "need" an attractive bridge deal if they haven't proven anything?
Which again brings us to bottom 6 players that can be launched and replaced with other players on an ELC. Did you consider that is why guys are being kept in the A. To make their next contract cheap?

Either way. A proven top pairing D-man is much harder to replace than a bottom 6 role player. They are a dine a dozen.

They aren't going to compete for a Cup indefinitely. Guys like Toews, Kane, Keith, Hjalmarsson and yes, Seabrook don't grow on trees. This will most likely be the greatest group of home grown talent the Hawks will ever see. Ride it to the end.

I agree...Bowman will offer Seabrook a generous and Cap responsible contract, if Seabrook values money more than his legacy in CHI then he will go by his own volition!
- MexicoHawk

At Seabrook's age he could ring the bell, get security and also stay in a place he has had success.
The choice is his....Unlike Saad who choices were made for him or would have been with an offer sheet.

We need a new blog

I'm guessing like last year there are rock bottom deals out there especially with Sharp's ability and Stan is trying hard to get a better deal because I'm sure cash will be staying in Chicago if it's a Rick bottom deal so hopefully Stan and Co work something out, Seabrook conversation is just that it won't happen, okay now I can get back to my Old Style
- BetweenTheDots

That's probably true and funny...because Schlitzs beer is Old Style, only not quite as good!

That's probably true and funny...because Schlitzs beer is Old Style, only not quite as good!
- MexicoHawk

Good? Not a word I would use describing those beers.

We need a new blog
- southernhawk

No. what is needed is for some trades to be made so we can turn our attention to complaining about the returns. Or rejoice because some players, Bickell, are gone.

Good? Not a word I would use describing those beers.
- TTtime

Mind boggling. What the hell is this guy doing?
- kwolf68

I'm following and totally get. Not saying it's going to happen, but sometimes you have open your mind and think outside the box.

Its a league wide scandal to dismantle the Hawks dynasty....

Good? Not a word I would use describing those beers.
- TTtime

First time in at least 25 years I bought a six pack of Old Style bottles over the weekend. I was in the liquor store and instead of Amstel or Negra Modelo I bought the Old Style and it brought back some memories. I won't gag on Old Style or Old Milwaukee for that matter but I never liked Schlitz.

First time in at least 25 years I bought a six pack of Old Style bottles over the weekend. I was in the liquor store and instead of Amstel or Negra Modelo I bought the Old Style and it brought back some memories. I won't gag on Old Style or Old Milwaukee for that matter but I never liked Schlitz.
- Al

Old Style!??!? Ohh holy after taste batman!

Exactly, there are large elements of those thoughts that I agree with, but the point is clearly Stan Bowman DOESN'T agree or at least 2 of them would be gone by now...so the questions become, what is Stan Bowman doing, and do you have faith in his abilities or not?
- MexicoHawk

I'm catching up to the conversation, but spot on.

Brent Seabrook is getting Sharp's A on his sweater. At the convention hawks gonna announce extention for Seabs and present #7 with A on it ............................. unless good old Patty Sharp is still around

We need a new blog
- southernhawk

No doubt. I can't believe all this yammering about nothing. Now it's gone to Seabrook is on the market. Don't some of you people have lives. Yeesh

No doubt. I can't believe all this yammering about nothing. Now it's gone to Seabrook is on the market. Don't some of you people have lives. Yeesh
- rtang415

No this is serious. You dont even know!?!!

No doubt. I can't believe all this yammering about nothing. Now it's gone to Seabrook is on the market. Don't some of you people have lives. Yeesh
- rtang415

Yes. Why do you think we are on here?