I hope the only Seabrook Edmonton gets is Keith Seabrook.

Seabrook has 3 cups...McDavid has zero. I can't really see why it shouldnt be McDavid +
- nurk

Seabrook has 3 cups...McDavid has zero. I can't really see why it shouldnt be McDavid +
- nurk

I'm assuming this is ... a joke.

If Seabroook is traded and it aint Seabrook for McDavid then SB should be canned.
- fvineze

To get McDavid, you'll have to include both Seabrooks.

I'm assuming this is ... a joke.
- TommyHawk

nurk is trolling.

I really never thought that there'd be such a fan uproar over the Hawks losing Keith Seabrook.

I'm assuming this is ... a joke.
- TommyHawk

It is. Just joking with him.

Seabrook has 3 cups...McDavid has zero. I can't really see why it shouldnt be McDavid +
- nurk

math does say that 3 > 0. similar argument can be made with goals and assists at the nhl level. no comparison.

I like this new angry Wiz version...
- z1990z

Yeah don't like bs taking hold, and as I posted I saw mex was embracing the horse manure & the first thing I thought was .. He thinks I am answering him direct.
I just don't buy the Hawks rolling the dice on any underachiever in Edmonton. Tell you what, it disrespects Seabrook and you think he has oilers on his list as places he wants to end his career?

Besides, even if Edmonton sent a young coward or two here,they are gonna have pay the rest of their early pick kids far too much to soon, and the entire idea reeks and the idiot beat writers there floated the story, as did the Dallas writer a month ago.
Me angry? Yes this isn't Saad or their newest hope on dee Darnell Nurse or I can't stop anybody guy Justin Smith the likes of whom they stole from the Ducks.

This is a real deal player so please stupid beat writers who don't know squat,don't fantasize our players in your dreams...

To get McDavid, you'll have to include both Seabrooks.
- airmidget1

Yeah don't like bs taking hold, and as I posted I saw mex was embracing the horse manure & the first thing I thought was .. He thinks I am answering him direct.
I just don't buy the hAwks rolling the dice on any underachiever in Edmonton. Tell you what, it disrespects Seabrook and think he has oilers on U.S. list as places he wants t end his career?

Besides even if the send young coward or tw here, they are gonna have pay those kids far too much to soon, and the entire idea reeks and the idiot beat writers there floated the as did the Dallas writer a month ago.
Me angry? Yes this isn't Saad or their newest hope on dee or I can't stop anybody guy the likes stole as Utah from Edmonton...
- wiz1901

I agree. Don't need any cowards.

Losing Seabrook, whatever the return, makes the team field a considerably worse D core next season. That almost assuredly means not being in competition for the cup again. Is he willing to do that?
- JRoenick97

Seems like a similar conundrum the Bulls faced in '97. Trade Pippen to the Celtics for the 3rd and 6th overall picks? No, and the Bulls won their sixth title the next year and bottomed out for most of the next decade (forget that the picks turned out to be Chauncey Billups and Antoine Walker).

So Seabrook for Nurse+, worse in the short term but better in the long? I don't think any front office gives up a shot at a championship(s), future be damned.

Its been way to quiet if you ask me....I think we have a trade coming soon.

It is. Just joking with him.
- nurk

So you're interested in that bridge? I have to be honest, like most infrastructure here in the US it does need some work. No reason you shouldn't be able to use it daily however. It is built well.

Its been way to quiet if you ask me....I think we have a trade coming soon.
- nurk

Been sayin that all week.

Been sayin that all week.
- tobias

more like weak...if you ask me

Seems like a similar conundrum the Bulls faced in '97. Trade Pippen to the Celtics for the 3rd and 6th overall picks? No, and the Bulls won their sixth title the next year and bottomed out for most of the next decade (forget that the picks turned out to be Chauncey Billups and Antoine Walker).

So Seabrook for Nurse+, worse in the short term but better in the long? I don't think any front office gives up a shot at a championship(s), future be damned.
- tobias

The implication here is that this is a championship contending team, which at this point we just don't know. There are a lot of variables right now, and it's up to the front office to assess just how close they are and whether a deal that weakens them now and strengthens them in the long run is the way to go. Personally, I'm in favor of making sure the future is strong. I'd prefer a 50% chance at a cup in 2-3 years over a 10% chance this year.

JJ should have named this Sharp Week

This is EXACTLY what I've been thinking.

I think Bowman would be the first to admit he doesn't want another Leddy 2.0 situation where he has to settle for a return. I'm sure there have been plenty of "reasonable" offers, but the 'Hawks just don't want "reasonable", they want to be confident with their return.

As such, I think Bowman might be looking at this from a perspective of, "well, I know that the longer I wait on Sharp/Versteeg/Bickell/etc., my returns will be diminished, however, if I find a way to make a BLOCKBUSTER out of this, then my return(s) might actually tip the scale in our favor."

Really looking forward to seeing how this all plays out. Maybe it makes feasible sense just get a feel of what the demand for Seabrook is like and what a potential package might cost. I'm not insinuating that he needs to be dealt, but gauging interest might be something they are doing right now.

May as well look at deals from all angles. Truth be told, NO ONE knows what's really going on in those closed door meetings. Just speculation.

As far as I'm concerned, anything is possible at this point (except for 19, 88, and 2 being moved).
- TommyHawk

Again, if one wishes to understand what is happening in Bowman's mind right now, then you have to open your own! Stan Bowman is VERY SMART, not a dummy. However, besides smart he is also clever and even a little sly. Ergo, how do you turn a negative into a positive? Make everyone believe you are vulnerable, injured in some way and allow them to come closer and closer, "sniff" out the situation. You begin to discuss some things that are relatively harmless, before suddenly throwing out a "bombshell" of desperation to lure the opponent in and render them surprised, with a time limit. Sound familiar? As I said before, had Bowman approached Jarmo Kekäläinen at the beginning of their discussions with a plan to acquire Anisimov AND Marko Dano, it would NOT have happened. The fact that midway through their discussions that Bowman used the "rumour" of an offer sheet on Saad to suddenly and surprisingly move him, caught Jarmo off guard. Dano was asked for as responsible value for a player the stature of Brandon Saad and the CLB GM had to agree! Deal done.

Can't move Sharp for anything of value? Potential "secret" deals with Oduya and Kruger at apparent risk the longer the Hawks delay? Once again, another crisis for the Blackhawks...Bowman is weak and can be taken advantage of! If that were true, Sharp would have been traded by now for next to nothing...a lottery ticket...but that's NOT what's happened! Sometimes to get other smart people to "help you out" is to "trick" them. Again, another scenario..."Stan, what your asking for Sharpy is too much and let's face it you're not in any position to demand anything, I can't help you" ..."okay, listen about Sharp, I'm in another jam and I can now sweeten the pot for you, but you've only got a day to think about it because I have to close this one fast...Sharp and Seabrook (with a whole year to resign him) for...

Again, the last thing Stan Bowman wants is to trade Brent Seabrook...but remember, the last thing that Stan Bowman wanted a week ago was to trade Brandon Saad, a player he promised Hawk fans would re-sign here...but you have to do what you have to do to protect this team's chances at continuing winning Cups NOW! How does Quenneville and Company do that without Brent Seabrook and Brandon Saad? Replace them with younger, cheaper, cost controlled versions that have big upsides within a strong system, that's how! Now, I don't know that this is what is in the works anywhere, but it sure feels like it because there are teams out there, I can guarantee it, that would have taken deals on both Sharp and Versteeg for just picks by now if that's what Bowman wanted. So ask yourself, with potential deals for Oduya and Kruger at risk daily, why is he continuing to delay the process of trading away Cap space? Before you answer, think Sherlock Holmes..."once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."

Losing Seabrook, whatever the return, makes the team field a considerably worse D core next season. That almost assuredly means not being in competition for the cup again. Is he willing to do that?
- JRoenick97

Again, that's a response in the moment without really thinking it through. Losing Seabrook without any gain would be horrendous for the Hawks, just like Brandon Saad. But after the Saad deal had time to sink in, I think the Hawks got BETTER. Wouldn't Bowman do the same thing if he had to move say Seabrook and Sharp? What would most teams on the cusp of greatness give up to acquire these two? I bet, it would be a lot!

The implication here is that this is a championship contending team, which at this point we just don't know. There are a lot of variables right now, and it's up to the front office to assess just how close they are and whether a deal that weakens them now and strengthens them in the long run is the way to go. Personally, I'm in favor of making sure the future is strong. I'd prefer a 50% chance at a cup in 2-3 years over a 10% chance this year.
- Sandus

Only 10% chance? Early odds I saw had the Hawks as favorites to repeat. Even in "down" years, this core are contenders.

Tough decision to make, but Seabrook is 31, has played a lot of hockey, probably looking at 7x7, and might only be the 3D on this team.

But, Seabrook means more to the Hawks than any other team. He's a heart and soul guy that's played his whole career in Chicago and helped bring the Hawks out of the dark days. Top pair D is the hardest position to fill.

Well, 2 weeks ago nobody even had a rumor Saad would be leaving, but if you gave me the option of Saad or Seabs, I'd have said Saad leaves before Seabrook.
- JRoenick97

CC is going way before Seabs

Again, if one wishes to understand what is happening in Bowman's mind right now, then you have to open your own! Stan Bowman is VERY SMART, not a dummy. However, besides smart he is also clever and even a little sly. Ergo, how do you turn a negative into a positive? Make everyone believe you are vulnerable, injured in some way and allow them to come closer and closer, "sniff" out the situation. You begin to discuss some things that are relatively harmless, before suddenly throwing out a "bombshell" of desperation to lure the opponent in and render them surprised, with a time limit. Sound familiar? As I said before, had Bowman approached Jarmo Kekäläinen at the beginning of their discussions with a plan to acquire Anisimov AND Marko Dano, it would NOT have happened. The fact that midway through their discussions that Bowman used the "rumour" of an offer sheet on Saad to suddenly and surprisingly move him, caught Jarmo off guard. Dano was asked for as responsible value for a player the stature of Brandon Saad and the CLB GM had to agree! Deal done.

Can't move Sharp for anything of value? Potential "secret" deals with Oduya and Kruger at apparent risk the longer the Hawks delay? Once again, another crisis for the Blackhawks...Bowman is weak and can be taken advantage of! If that were true, Sharp would have been traded by now for next to nothing...a lottery ticket...but that's NOT what's happened! Sometimes to get other smart people to "help you out" is to "trick" them. Again, another scenario..."Stan, what your asking for Sharpy is too much and let's face it you're not in any position to demand anything, I can't help you" ..."okay, listen about Sharp, I'm in another jam and I can now sweeten the pot for you, but you've only got a day to think about it because I have to close this one fast...Sharp and Seabrook (with a whole year to resign him) for...

Again, the last thing Stan Bowman wants is to trade Brent Seabrook...but remember, the last thing that Stan Bowman wanted a week ago was to trade Brandon Saad, a player he promised Hawk fans would re-sign here...but you have to do what you have to do to protect this team's chances at continuing winning Cups NOW! How does Quenneville and Company do that without Brent Seabrook and Brandon Saad? Replace them with younger, cheaper, cost controlled versions that have big upsides within a strong system, that's how! Now, I don't know that this is what is in the works anywhere, but it sure feels like it because there are teams out there, I can guarantee it, that would have taken deals on both Sharp and Versteeg for just picks by now if that's what Bowman wanted. So ask yourself, with potential deals for Oduya and Kruger at risk daily, why is he continuing to delay the process of trading away Cap space? Before you answer, think Sherlock Holmes..."once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
- MexicoHawk

Nurse and Draitsel?

Again, if one wishes to understand what is happening in Bowman's mind right now, then you have to open your own! Stan Bowman is VERY SMART, not a dummy. However, besides smart he is also clever and even a little sly. Ergo, how do you turn a negative into a positive? Make everyone believe you are vulnerable, injured in some way and allow them to come closer and closer, "sniff" out the situation. You begin to discuss some things that are relatively harmless, before suddenly throwing out a "bombshell" of desperation to lure the opponent in and render them surprised, with a time limit. Sound familiar? As I said before, had Bowman approached Jarmo Kekäläinen at the beginning of their discussions with a plan to acquire Anisimov AND Marko Dano, it would NOT have happened. The fact that midway through their discussions that Bowman used the "rumour" of an offer sheet on Saad to suddenly and surprisingly move him, caught Jarmo off guard. Dano was asked for as responsible value for a player the stature of Brandon Saad and the CLB GM had to agree! Deal done.

Can't move Sharp for anything of value? Potential "secret" deals with Oduya and Kruger at apparent risk the longer the Hawks delay? Once again, another crisis for the Blackhawks...Bowman is weak and can be taken advantage of! If that were true, Sharp would have been traded by now for next to nothing...a lottery ticket...but that's NOT what's happened! Sometimes to get other smart people to "help you out" is to "trick" them. Again, another scenario..."Stan, what your asking for Sharpy is too much and let's face it you're not in any position to demand anything, I can't help you" ..."okay, listen about Sharp, I'm in another jam and I can now sweeten the pot for you, but you've only got a day to think about it because I have to close this one fast...Sharp and Seabrook (with a whole year to resign him) for...

Again, the last thing Stan Bowman wants is to trade Brent Seabrook...but remember, the last thing that Stan Bowman wanted a week ago was to trade Brandon Saad, a player he promised Hawk fans would re-sign here...but you have to do what you have to do to protect this team's chances at continuing winning Cups NOW! How does Quenneville and Company do that without Brent Seabrook and Brandon Saad? Replace them with younger, cheaper, cost controlled versions that have big upsides within a strong system, that's how! Now, I don't know that this is what is in the works anywhere, but it sure feels like it because there are teams out there, I can guarantee it, that would have taken deals on both Sharp and Versteeg for just picks by now if that's what Bowman wanted. So ask yourself, with potential deals for Oduya and Kruger at risk daily, why is he continuing to delay the process of trading away Cap space? Before you answer, think Sherlock Holmes..."once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
- MexicoHawk

MHawk, you are dead right but you are upsetting the masses with truth.

But there could be another 'truth' that might drive a massive Hawks' restructuring. The loonie is at 78.48,; 78 is the 2015 low and the lowest level since the 76.50 low during the 2008-2009 Crisis. Oil and commodities are crashing due to China's woes. When this happens global recession usually appears quickly.

Ergo, there is a very strong probability that the cap could be LOWER next year and the recovery of the cap could be surprisingly meager.

JJ should have named this Sharp Week
- waitforawhistle