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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
I don't think that's Bowman's big concern at this point.
- walleyeb1


Wait, what!?!?!

You mean Stan doesn't read here and care what we think?
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Wait, what!?!?!

You mean Stan doesn't read here and care what we think?

- HawkintheD


he probably would get banned!
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jul 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
Or maybe Kruger's agent told him what happened to Niemi when he went to arbitration. Which brings me to the Saad incident one the Hawks think they got 2 pieces that are going to help this team going forward and two when TT and others reach RFA does this kind of action make a player pause if they want to continue playing for the Hawks. I like it.
- BetweenTheDots


I do not think this issue is or will be unique to the Hawks. The NHL is rapidly becoming a two class system - top tier players get too large a share of a finite pie, and rest have to begin considering the reality that if they are not superstars they will be sharing a smaller seat at the salary trough.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
[quote=paulr]He's played a total of 2 NHL games, Nurse isn't a top pair dman in the NHL and he may or may never be. I think he has a great future but I also thought Cam Barker did before he actually stepped on NHL ice. Each step from Junior to the AHL to the NHL are huge and many can't miss prospects do in fact miss. Let's not write up Nurse's HOF ticket for a few more years.
- EnzoD[/
quote]


HYPERBOLE and finality. 2 of Paulr's calling cards on this blog. Did I say he was a HOF or even an All-Star? No, I did not.

Darnell Nurse is 20years old and SHOULD be Edmonton's #1 Defenseman, maybe as soon as this year. As Sandus said, when you have a 30 year old defenseman that might not be within the Salary Cap structure, a return like Darnell Nurse is really just a fantasy. Edmonton probably wouldnt even trade Nurse for Seabrook straight up.


Edmonton would be complete idiots to not trade Nurse for Seabs straight up. He is NOT gonna be their #1 this year, they are talking about leaving him in the AHL to get top pairing minutes. Meanwhile, Ekblad at 18 years old has already established himself. THATS a player you maybe don't trade for Seabrook, but not Nurse. He is NOT a can't miss until he doesn't miss. He is unproven and untested.

I HOPE The Oilers wouldn't trade him for Seabrook, because I don't want him for Seabrook.

At first I didn't care how long these trades went on. I figured "Trust in Stan", but now I want it done so we can put Seabrook to ______ safely to bed. Holy crap cant believe we're talking about trading him. Damnit Stan just do something already I can't even stomach talking about trading a foundation, NOT just part of the core, but the FOUNDATION of what our Blackhawks are.....
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
You know why I like you HawkintheD? Cause you're a regular guy. Yep, that's why I want you to stay regular. One half teaspoon for fast effective relief!
- daaaahawks




Same goes for me daaaahawks. Try this stuff though for better results.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:38 AM ET


Same goes for me daaaahawks. Try this stuff though for better results.

- HawkintheD



LMAO
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
Or maybe Kruger's agent told him what happened to Niemi when he went to arbitration. Which brings me to the Saad incident one the Hawks think they got 2 pieces that are going to help this team going forward and two when TT and others reach RFA does this kind of action make a player pause if they want to continue playing for the Hawks. I like it.
- BetweenTheDots


I really think the Hawks came out ahead in the Saad trade.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
[quote=paulr]He's played a total of 2 NHL games, Nurse isn't a top pair dman in the NHL and he may or may never be. I think he has a great future but I also thought Cam Barker did before he actually stepped on NHL ice. Each step from Junior to the AHL to the NHL are huge and many can't miss prospects do in fact miss. Let's not write up Nurse's HOF ticket for a few more years.
- EnzoD[/
quote]


HYPERBOLE and finality. 2 of Paulr's calling cards on this blog. Did I say he was a HOF or even an All-Star? No, I did not.

Darnell Nurse is 20years old and SHOULD be Edmonton's #1 Defenseman, maybe as soon as this year. As Sandus said, when you have a 30 year old defenseman that might not be within the Salary Cap structure, a return like Darnell Nurse is really just a fantasy. Edmonton probably wouldnt even trade Nurse for Seabrook straight up.


No but you made it sound like he would just step right in where Seabrook left off and that's not gonna happen and it may never happen.
daaaahawks
Location: NY
Joined: 09.23.2014

Jul 8 @ 10:40 AM ET


Same goes for me daaaahawks. Try this stuff though for better results.

- HawkintheD



well done sir
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
I really think the Hawks came out ahead in the Saad trade.
- Hank3Henshaw

If Dano works out the way he's projected and the way he played last year, I'd say they did.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:43 AM ET
I really think the Hawks came out ahead in the Saad trade.
- Hank3Henshaw


Shhhhhh, I did to but what's the expression, 2 birds 1 stone
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:45 AM ET


Same goes for me daaaahawks. Try this stuff though for better results.

- HawkintheD



Man I miss him he was hilarious
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
Yet, Bettman allows this "trick" but when teams who try to win and play tricks with the cap to save space, he punishes them. I still wan to know why the owners aren't complaining about this? F Arizona and everything about that F'n state.
- powerenforcer


Bettman also "allowed" the trick that brought the Hawks Vermette, Desjardins and Timmonen, even tho they were right up against the cap.

Tricks are sometimes good for the home team....
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
Edmonton would be complete idiots to not trade Nurse for Seabs straight up. He is NOT gonna be their #1 this year, they are talking about leaving him in the AHL to get top pairing minutes. Meanwhile, Ekblad at 18 years old has already established himself. THATS a player you maybe don't trade for Seabrook, but not Nurse. He is NOT a can't miss until he doesn't miss. He is unproven and untested.

I HOPE The Oilers wouldn't trade him for Seabrook, because I don't want him for Seabrook.

At first I didn't care how long these trades went on. I figured "Trust in Stan", but now I want it done so we can put Seabrook to ______ safely to bed. Holy crap cant believe we're talking about trading him. Damnit Stan just do something already I can't even stomach talking about trading a foundation, NOT just part of the core, but the FOUNDATION of what our Blackhawks are.....

- kwolf68


Fair enough. Since the Hawks are in a cap bind at the moment, what about trading Kane? He frees up $10.5M and would be able to get a king's ransom for him.

That way they would be comfortably able to keep Versteeg, Bickell, and others. Would give them plenty of options, too.
southernhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: of champions, AL
Joined: 01.19.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
he probably would get banned!
- SaskHawkFan



Most definitely he would.....you know all the toddlers that read here... Gotta live up to captain kangaroos level
flappymcgee303
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Romeoville, IL
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Fair enough. Since the Hawks are in a cap bind at the moment, what about trading Kane? He frees up $10.5M and would be able to get a king's ransom for him.

That way they would be comfortably able to keep Versteeg, Bickell, and others. Would give them plenty of options, too.

- Dannyboy


or Trade Toews
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Fair enough. Since the Hawks are in a cap bind at the moment, what about trading Kane? He frees up $10.5M and would be able to get a king's ransom for him.

That way they would be comfortably able to keep Versteeg, Bickell, and others. Would give them plenty of options, too.

- Dannyboy

Oh Boy! You just opened the can of worms.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jul 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Hey JJ. Any word on when a new blog is gonna drop. I'm antsy and would really love to see your insight on the offseason.

Thanks in advance buddy.

- nurk




Look up.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
Bettman also "allowed" the trick that brought the Hawks Vermette, Desjardins and Timmonen, even tho they were right up against the cap.

Tricks are sometimes good for the home team....

- StLBravesFan


What trick was that? Every team can go over the cap at the TDL if injuries occur. What Arizona did to get to the cap floor was just a joke, and everyone knows it. Pronger will never step on an ice sheet again in his life. He should not be allowed to be traded.
tobias
Joined: 07.06.2015

Jul 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
I really think the Hawks came out ahead in the Saad trade.
- Hank3Henshaw


Works out well for both teams. CBJ gets their 1LW while the Hawks get a 2C and a young, talented winger on an entry level contract for two more years. CBJ also able to dump a couple one way contracts the Hawks don't mind burying at the Rock if they can't flip them.
darkman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gilberts, IL
Joined: 06.03.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
Bettman also "allowed" the trick that brought the Hawks Vermette, Desjardins and Timmonen, even tho they were right up against the cap.

Tricks are sometimes good for the home team....

- StLBravesFan

How was that a trick?
Kane was legitimately hurt and replacing his cap hit is well within the rules. The timing happened to work out perfectly, but it was legitimate. Comparing it to trading salaries of retired(injured) players is silly.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
What trick was that? Every team can go over the cap at the TDL if injuries occur. What Arizona did to get to the cap floor was just a joke, and everyone knows it. Pronger will never step on an ice sheet again in his life. He should not be allowed to be traded.
- powerenforcer

Why does it bother you? AZ will never compete for more than a playoff spot, they are no threat to Chicago in any way, shape or form.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Why does it bother you? AZ will never compete for more than a playoff spot, they are no threat to Chicago in any way, shape or form.
- paulr


Why it bothers me (and should bother everyone) is it is a circumventing the cap 180 degrees differently than when teams signed players to those long contracts. If teams are punished for tricks one way, they should be punished for tricks the other way. Plus, why wouldn't Bettman want Arizona to be a competetive team?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
Seabrook along with their other additions make the Oilers a playoff contender. Even without Seabrook, no lottery for them next year and it looks like the Leafs are doing all they can to be a lottery team.
- paulr


You are kidding, right? They've got Mark Arcobello, Shawn Matthias, Nick Spaling and Captain Dion. Parade planned for Yonge Street June 15, 2016.
Panarin27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 05.25.2015

Jul 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
It's Wednesday today, so do you suspect that we don't get two deals done with sharp/bickell/versteeg Crawford will be dealt by tonight?
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