Sorry but I dont feel bad.. Hes getting damn near 6 million a year to play a game. Buy a house where you want to be and stay there in the off season. Im sure he will be fine.
- z1990z

Yep - entertain us, get your brains beat out while doing it - but don't ask us to treat you like a human being with a family and....

It's ok, we'll buy your humanity. Lots of money will fix everything.

Sharp doesn't have to answer to Toews or any other player regarding his contact. If the Hawks don't like the consequences of giving out NTCs, this is a lesson for the future. Don't give them out.

They give them as an incentive to the player. They can't expect that they will just give it up because the team wants them to, because it is in the teams best interest. A team that wants you gone. Here, let me do you a huge favor as you kick me out the door........ Says nobody.
- carcus

Exactly.

The sooner the player in any sport realizes he is a piece of meat the better. If his contract protects him partially from things he may not want to do, better for him. This isn't the Eddie Shore era. I don't think Sharp is playing hardball, he is looking after his own interests first. If it takes some time, so be it. He couldn't care less if its holding up Kruger and Oduya's new contracts or who or what may be traded back to the Hawks. He"ll be outta here sooner than later.
- RickJ

He is losing your respect for using something bargained and given to him by the Hawks?

I don't get this.
- carcus

Noone ever proved to me that the CBA allows players to veto trades to teams they list. It seems he is adding many demands to the trade, is that part of the contract he signed, that is my question. Until then, I am looking at the situation and seeing him playing hardball.

He is losing your respect for using something bargained and given to him by the Hawks?

I don't get this.
- carcus

Noone ever proved to me that the CBA allows players to veto trades to teams they list. It seems he is adding many demands to the trade, is that part of the contract he signed, that is my question. Until then, I am looking at the situation and seeing him playing hardball.

Noone ever proved to me that the CBA allows players to veto trades to teams they list. It seems he is adding many demands to the trade, is that part of the contract he signed, that is my question. Until then, I am looking at the situation and seeing him playing hardball.
- powerenforcer

It doesn't, and it has nothing to do with the CBA It's a material breach of the SPC (and any amendments to it like NMC/NTC) to try and do anything outside the 4 corners of the document. Technically it's no different than Richards alleged breach of his Kings contract. If it's true that he made additional demands and Florida was on his limited NTC list the Hawks should cut him now.

I'm a Stan fan and a Hawk's brass believer. They've earned that trust w three Cups. I've also railed on this site about the difference between our kibitzing on a blog and real life GM stuff and how little we understand about the real life GM.

But all that said as a precursor, I'm kinda shocked that we're sitting here today on July 7 and have both Bickell and Sharp still on the roster. Just feels like he's boxing himself in somewhat. Both have to be moved. Solve one, then being patient on the other...fine. But still sitting on both (plus Steeg)? Puzzling at least.

Someone cue up the "painting himself into a corner" picture. That made me giggle the other day.
- Cmonalready

Agreed however. I think the guy is really trying and you're damn straight it's a lot more complicated to pull this stuff off than most realize. That said, I think it is valid to ask if he blew it by not taking his best offer on Sharp at the draft. Someday, the story may come out. Signing Anisimov out of the blue almost to underscore the "we wanted him for years" narrative. But, that was a good trade. And he is definitely trying and investigating a lot of options. We'll see.

Noone ever proved to me that the CBA allows players to veto trades to teams they list. It seems he is adding many demands to the trade, is that part of the contract he signed, that is my question. Until then, I am looking at the situation and seeing him playing hardball.
- powerenforcer

Do we know that Miami was on his list - or did he give them his list, and the Hawks asked him to add Florida to it?

And who is to say his waive list included teams that are near cap hell to stay here. Why the prejudice to the southern states? Warm all year round. As others have said keep the family here for the season.

He is losing your respect for using something bargained and given to him by the Hawks?

I don't get this.
- carcus

Agreed.

Noone ever proved to me that the CBA allows players to veto trades to teams they list. It seems he is adding many demands to the trade, is that part of the contract he signed, that is my question. Until then, I am looking at the situation and seeing him playing hardball.
- powerenforcer

He also isn't required to waive his NTC either. He was required to give the Hawks a list of a specific number of teams he will accept a trade to. That's it. So he has the right, negotiated by both sides mind you, to only accept a trade to those teams. The reality is he doesn't have to veto anything.

You should have heard Bill Watters ranting on Toews and Kane for not taking a home town discount but expecting the other guys to.

Exactly. The Hawks shouldn't bite the hand that's been feeding them since the dark days.

See what I did there?
- Dunconn_Smythe

Nothing! So what if he has been here since the dark days. So has Seabs and Dunconn Smythe and Toews and Kane for some of it. It's his time to move on and he should go without screwing over his team he supposedly loves. Sharp is not going to be here no matter what. The other 4 above will be. He is gone not matter what the Hawks get for him. Does he want to be the guy that cost the Hawks players that can keep this team a contender? If he is that selfish then screw Patrick Sharp. I would love for him and all the Hawks to stay. He just happens to be one of the players that can be moved and the Hawks have to move salary. Suck it up and move on Patrick. You get 6mil a year no matter where you end up. Hell, if he ends up in Florida or Texas there is no state Tax. His take home pay goes up!

Wow.....

19 is a generational player. A guy who can do it all. Take a game over. A true leader and is worth every penny.
- z1990z

He is amazing and is in my opinion the best overall player in the league and he's worth every penny but anybody saying that he gave a hometown discount or he thought of the team moving forward is lying to themselves...he's thinking about his pocketbook if not he and Kaner could of taken a 9 mill contract and with that they would of been able to retain the likes of Sharp so his loyalty (and Kane) goes only as far as the Hawks were willing to pay him, don't kid yourself.......

He also isn't required to waive his NTC either. He was required to give the Hawks a list of a specific number of teams he will accept a trade to. That's it. So he has the right, negotiated by both sides mind you, to only accept a trade to those teams. The reality is he doesn't have to veto anything.
- TTtime

Perhaps Stan should pull a 'Mike Richards' and chum the waters for media sharks.

Yep - entertain us, get your brains beat out while doing it - but don't ask us to treat you like a human being with a family and....

It's ok, we'll buy your humanity.
- StLBravesFan

Wow... hes getting paid big dollars to play a game. He chose it. Just like football players, race car drivers etc. He gets access to all star docs, trainers etc. Nobody said he wasnt being treated well.. Ever! You take the whole package. Would you care if you had to move, but still get paid 6 million dollars a year?

We need to trade you.. ok here is my list. If he told Florida that if they arent playing well he wants out, thats BS. How many years did Walter play on crap teams? Did he complain? Nope... went out and played. Go play hockey Patrick Sharp. Now not saying he is holding anything up, but come now.

Not treating Sharp like a human... that takes the cake today. I mean totally takes it...

You should have heard Bill Watters ranting on Toews and Kane for not taking a home town discount but expecting the other guys to.
- walleyeb1

Pretty sure both did. Think they could have each got a bit more on the open Market.

Nothing! So what if he has been here since the dark days. So has Seabs and Dunconn Smythe and Toews and Kane for some of it. It's his time to move on and he should go without screwing over his team he supposedly loves. Sharp is not going to be here no matter what. The other 4 above will be. He is gone not matter what the Hawks get for him. Does he want to be the guy that cost the Hawks players that can keep this team a contender? If he is that selfish then screw Patrick Sharp. I would love for him and all the Hawks to stay. He just happens to be one of the players that can be moved and the Hawks have to move salary. Suck it up and move on Patrick. You get 6mil a year no matter where you end up. Hell, if he ends up in Florida or Texas there is no state Tax. His take home pay goes up!
- PaulNewman

How do you know he is screwing over the team? There have been reports of both sides of the issue. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle like it usually is.

And no, I am not saying anyone is making anything up. There are a multitude of reason why and how any organization dispenses information.

- John Jaeckel

You are on to something, trade Sharp to the Federal League.

Perhaps Stan should pull a 'Mike Richards' and chum the waters for media sharks.
- KingB

Wouldn't that be cutting off his nose to spite his face?

He also isn't required to waive his NTC either. He was required to give the Hawks a list of a specific number of teams he will accept a trade to. That's it. So he has the right, negotiated by both sides mind you, to only accept a trade to those teams. The reality is he doesn't have to veto anything.
- TTtime

So what you are saying is the "out clause" he demanded as part of the trade was not in his authority to ask for? (Assuming Fla was a team on his list). That to me shows poor sportsmanship. It is like when Rose was talking about his future meetings after his BBALL days. Spoiled brats most athletes are.

So what you are saying is the "out clause" he demanded as part of the trade was not in his authority to ask for? (Assuming Fla was a team on his list). That to me shows poor sportsmanship. It is like when Rose was talking about his future meetings after his BBALL days. Spoiled brats most athletes are.
- powerenforcer

I think a lot of people are making judgments of Sharp and they don't know the details of what is really going on.

I think a lot of people are making judgments of Sharp and they don't know the details of what is really going on.
- carcus

Which is exactly what a few of us have been saying all along.

So what you are saying is the "out clause" he demanded as part of the trade was not in his authority to ask for? (Assuming Fla was a team on his list). That to me shows poor sportsmanship. It is like when Rose was talking about his future meetings after his BBALL days. Spoiled brats most athletes are.
- powerenforcer

Poor sportsmanship? If anything he's being a good sport. He could've just said straight up no to any one team. Instead, allegedly what he said in essence is, "I don't want to go there, but I will with one condition."

Wow... hes getting paid big dollars to play a game. He chose it. Just like football players, race car drivers etc. He gets access to all star docs, trainers etc. Nobody said he wasnt being treated well.. Ever! You take the whole package. Would you care if you had to move, but still get paid 6 million dollars a year?

We need to trade you.. ok here is my list. If he told Florida that if they arent playing well he wants out, thats BS. How many years did Walter play on crap teams? Did he complain? Nope... went out and played. Go play hockey Patrick Sharp. Now not saying he is holding anything up, but come now.

Not treating Sharp like a human... that takes the cake today. I mean totally takes it...
- z1990z

Then you should be eating the cake.

He is playing by the rules - just like Kevin Hayes, that other ingrate who chose a path in his best interests as opposed to doing what the Hawks wanted.

His contract has the NTC - freely negotiated by the Hawks and his agent. If (as I assume) Florida wasn't on the list of teams he gave them (and I don't think anyone has said it was), he has EARNED the right to turn down a trade to them.

This crap about he should just show gratitude to the Hawks and give in to what they want is just crap - he has contracted rights which gives him contracted power, and he should use it in the best interests of him and his family.