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MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:51 PM ET
Holy cow! Science fights on HB! Love it!

- PitMartin7


It's a first, for sure.

carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 5:52 PM ET
It's a first, for sure.


- MartiniMan

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:53 PM ET
Guess you missed people putting them on their imaginary lines. lol. I think it has more to do with the contract limit from their end.
- TTtime


This had nothing to do with the Saad trade. Just to stroke their ow weird senses of humor, Bowman and Kekalainen decided to play a very evil game to see which man would go insane first - Jeremy Morin or Joel Quenneville.

Anybody heard from either one of them?
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:53 PM ET
So all this science and physics talk has me wondering what the brainiacs think about space/time bends and if there's anything to time travel ... cuz I was thinking someone could travel back to Game#7 against LA last year and tell Leddy to duck ... then maybe the win this year could have three in a row
darkman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gilberts, IL
Joined: 06.03.2013

Jul 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
You don't think that if they had a deal on the table for a core player and the paying fans said they hated the deal that they wouldn't take that into consideration? I'm not saying they would make the decision based solely on that. But I would think it would be on their minds.
- DMCsPulledHammy

Not for one single moment would they consider that.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
Going to a game does it for most people. It's one of the few sports that watching on TV does it no favors. TV slows the game down. The speed live is fantastic.

Not sure if anyone else brought this up in here but the Hawks are introducing SRO season tickets this year. So few season ticket holders are giving up their seats that they are offering something in the neighborhood of 400 SRO's. Out of 14000 season ticket seats only 22 were given up this year.

- Quicky72


Quite a waiting list for season tickets I have heard..
MexicoHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 5:56 PM ET
As someone who majored in physics, I can only say that this is not correct. The mathematics is very elegant, and I think it's great that books like "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene do what they can to convey mathematics to the general public. But there is a lot lost when these ideas are put into mere words.

Full disclosure: I also teach physics and AP Physics at the high school level. The introductory class is a lot more fun in many ways because we get to talk about some of this stuff. But I build up the idea throughout the whole year that the math should predict things about the natural world. For gravity, electricity and magnetism, etc. we have billiard ball physics in which the math predicts extremely well what will happen in a system… For sound waves and water waves, the math also predicts how these things will behave, die out the farther they travel, etc. For quantum physics, the double slit experiment shows that sub-atomic particles behave like waves AND like particles. In other words, the math we use is phenomenally accurate in predicting these wave-like and particle-like behaviors.

But…but… is an electron a particle or a wave, things that I can conceptualize more easily? Well, the words particle and wave are just represented by mathematics… That's all there is to it. The metaphysical stuff is hooey… mere speculation… It's fun to think about, but you don't want to put too much stock into it…

Okay, I'm done. Has Patrick Sharp been traded yet?

- DMChi2010



I appreciate your words and your experiences, but you are talking about the PHYSICAL world and not the NON-physical world. The unified field is 2 dimensional, non physical where everything already exists, connected to everything else as one. What you are describing, accurately, is Newton's physical world filled with unbreakable laws! Once we stop observing matter, ALL of Newton's laws are BROKEN because all matter is nothing more than infinite waves of possibilities. And really, here is the clue from even the physical world, of which you must be aware of...even the most dense material that humans are aware of (sub atomic particles) are 99.9999% empty space, this isn't arguable...that's what matter is...this is exactly what Carl Sagan was telling us in Cosmos. We humans are NO different at a molecular level from an asteroid speeding through space! Again, that isn't arguable, that's from physical science which posits that we are a collection of cells that are made up of sub atomic particles. Which is why judging someone, or hating someone, or inflicting war on someone is ultimately fruitless...we are all ONE! Again, back to hockey...just PM me.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
In many ways Beowulf was the basis for Professor Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, in 1938...
- MexicoHawk


Also Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. A lot is rooted in traditional Anglo-Saxon mythology since that is what he was a professor of (Beowulf obviously part of that). Some Norse myths. The Kalevala made quite an impression as well.

Either way the Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece and if you haven't read it then you are in for a treat. Toughest part is getting out of the Shire. It really takes off after that though. Really a wonderful read.
DMChi2010
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
What I can gather from back reading is a couple of things. I recall why science bored me to tears. Sharp hasn't been traded. Did I miss anything?

Oh right. MinnyHawks had to suffer through Jane Eyre. Twice.

- TTtime


Sorry… chances are your teacher sucked. I try to make it fun and exciting, regardless of the ability of the student. I'm sure I fail a lot...
darklighter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:00 PM ET
Quite a waiting list for season tickets I have heard..
- Al


Over 18,000 at the moment. I finally ponied up the deposit last month. Wish I had done it much, much earlier.
daaaahawks
Location: NY
Joined: 09.23.2014

Jul 7 @ 6:01 PM ET
ughhhhh this is how i think about life



- fattybeef



carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 6:02 PM ET
Over 18,000 at the moment. I finally ponied up the deposit last month. Wish I had done it much, much earlier.
- darklighter

There is a wait list of 18,000 in Chicago for season tickets???



Wow.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Jul 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
There is a wait list of 18,000 in Chicago for season tickets???



Wow.

- carcus

Yup. A few years ago when I put my name on the list it was 14,000 and estimated at 10 years. Last year I was told the renewal rate was 99.9% and they didn't even go to the waiting list. Sounds like the same this year.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
There is a wait list of 18,000 in Chicago for season tickets???



Wow.

- carcus

I read somewhere earlier on in the year somewhere that the wait-list for season tickets is that of "if you are an adolescent, your grandchildren will have the next opportunity to get them."
teh_HAWKZ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jul 7 @ 6:06 PM ET
There is a wait list of 18,000 in Chicago for season tickets???



Wow.

- carcus


All bandwagon fans no doubt
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
Also Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. A lot is rooted in traditional Anglo-Saxon mythology since that is what he was a professor of (Beowulf obviously part of that). Some Norse myths. The Kalevala made quite an impression as well.

Either way the Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece and if you haven't read it then you are in for a treat. Toughest part is getting out of the Shire. It really takes off after that though. Really a wonderful read.

- fattybeef


I read The Hobbit in my teens and The Lord of the Rings trilogy in my 20's, and 40 years later I still recall they were a great read. The Hobbit should be read first though as it is the prelude to the trilogy.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 6:09 PM ET
There is a wait list of 18,000 in Chicago for season tickets???



Wow.

- carcus


If the waiting period was realistic it would be triple that... about the size of the Duck fan base. Not sure what the wait is now but it was 5-10 years last I heard.

When we bought ours back they could barely give them away... less than a decade ago.
Hawkeyes1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:09 PM ET
More I think about this, more I think its fair to say at the very least, the Hawks are telling Kruger and Oduya camps that they have things lined up and that they shouldn't go anywhere just yet. No doubt that those camps are being briefed about whats going on, and if they feel that the space would not open up, they'd have signed yesterday.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:11 PM ET
Sorry… chances are your teacher sucked. I try to make it fun and exciting, regardless of the ability of the student. I'm sure I fail a lot...
- DMChi2010


Possible. All of them were probably in attendance at the creation of soil. It was definitely the presentation and not the material. The subject matter I found interesting.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jul 7 @ 6:11 PM ET
Over 18,000 at the moment. I finally ponied up the deposit last month. Wish I had done it much, much earlier.
- darklighter


As long as the Hawks keep making deep runs many season ticket holders can recoup a large amount of their cost by selling some of the playoffs...That keeps basically everyone in the their seats for a long time.
DMChi2010
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 7 @ 6:12 PM ET
I appreciate your words and your experiences, but you are talking about the PHYSICAL world and not the NON-physical world. The unified field is 2 dimensional, non physical where everything already exists, connected to everything else as one. What you are describing, accurately, is Newton's physical world filled with unbreakable laws! Once we stop observing matter, ALL of Newton's laws are BROKEN because all matter is nothing more than infinite waves of possibilities. And really, here is the clue from even the physical world, of which you must be aware of...even the most dense material that humans are aware of (sub atomic particles) are 99.9999% empty space, this isn't arguable...that's what matter is...this is exactly what Carl Sagan was telling us in Cosmos. We humans are NO different at a molecular level from an asteroid speeding through space! Again, that isn't arguable, that's from physical science which posits that we are a collection of cells that are made up of sub atomic particles. Which is why judging someone, or hating someone, or inflicting war on someone is ultimately fruitless...we are all ONE! Again, back to hockey...just PM me.
- MexicoHawk


The math of the wave function collapses to a single output. This requires Fourier Analysis, which is a calculus technique. IN NO WAY SHOULD IT BE CONFUSED WITH THE IDEA THAT MATTER DOES NOT EXIST EXCEPT AS POSSIBILITIES.

I don't mind your New Age stuff… Not a big fan of war… However, DO NOT conflate the two. DO NOT conflate the concept of god with physics either. One of my students thought that the Big Bang proves there's a god. NO. It proves no such thing. It's just the best description of all the astronomical and astrophysical data we've accumulated over the year.

Wow, now I've brought up religion after talking science on a hockey website. So let's also talk politics. Richard Cheney is a butthole!
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:12 PM ET
This had nothing to do with the Saad trade. Just to stroke their ow weird senses of humor, Bowman and Kekalainen decided to play a very evil game to see which man would go insane first - Jeremy Morin or Joel Quenneville.

Anybody heard from either one of them?

- RickJ


Not officially. Word is a couple of clubs may have been tossed at a local golf club.
darklighter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 7 @ 6:13 PM ET
If the waiting period was realistic it would be triple that... about the size of the Duck fan base. Not sure what the wait is now but it was 5-10 years last I heard.
- tredbrta


The Hawks rep was very clear that there's not really any movement on the list, so it's impossible to really know how long it will take to get them.

My bet is that the opportunity will present itself during a protracted downturn in the team's fortunes, likely after Kane and Toews are no longer Blackhawks. If we see a five-year rebuilding period like the one the Cubs are coming out of, I suspect that they'll churn through that list. (It'll help if it comes during an economic recession.)
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
As long as the Hawks keep making deep runs many season ticket holders can recoup a large amount of their cost by selling some of the playoffs...That keeps basically everyone in the their seats for a long time.
- Al

That is my plan with my season tickets each year.

The Blues ruin it though with their quick exits.

TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 7 @ 6:16 PM ET
More I think about this, more I think its fair to say at the very least, the Hawks are telling Kruger and Oduya camps that they have things lined up and that they shouldn't go anywhere just yet. No doubt that those camps are being briefed about whats going on, and if they feel that the space would not open up, they'd have signed yesterday.
- Hawkeyes1

I agree with this in regards to Oduya. I think that if something wasn't already agreed upon, verbal agreement-wise, he would have signed for 4 and $22 mil somewhere by now. I think Kruger is a little bit of a trickier situation, especially with all of these bottom-six additions to the team (Tikhonov, Tropp, Morin (?), not to mention Shaw's ability to play center. If he weren't an RFA I'd imagine he'd already be signed somewhere else, but considering the circumstances, I think the 'Hawks are doing their due-diligence in seeing if they could package Kruger in a deal (Sharp, Bickell, etc.) to sweeten the return. If they cannot, they simply re-sign him at a reasonable cost and try to cut costs elsewhere (Versteeg).
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